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Film Score Friday 10/30/98

by Lukas Kendall

Yes, Sony Legacy has delayed again the release of their Star Trek: The Motion Picture/Inside Star Trek 2CD set. Apparently it is so as not to conflict with the release of Star Trek Insurrection coming up soon. The latest we hear now is spring.

Most fans are stark raving mad about this latest in a long line of delays. Well, it ain't our record! This is, by the way, why we don't announce our Silver Age Classics CDs ahead of time. There's something we've been meaning to get out for at least, but you guys don't know about it, so you're not upset! That's the way to operate, I tell you.

AMC recently ran a poll on viewers' favorite film composers and soundtracks (http://www.amctv.com/ at the Cafe section of the site), but apparently it's no longer there. An AMC production, The Making of The Movie Album with Neil Diamond and Elmer Bernstein is scheduled for November 4 on AMC.

A 55-min. documentary, "A Portrait of Lalo Schifrin", airs on the UK's Channel 4, at 4.25 next Monday morning. I've seen this before, it's good.

The Last on the Different People Named John Williams

From: Michael Matessino <mikem@sharplinearts.com>

    I doubt anyone else will come up with these... I have just received a copy of the "simplified accompaniment" edition of the Episcopal Church's "Hymnal 1982." A Mr. JOHN E. WILLIAMS is credited as "Editor, for the Standing Commission on Church Music" of this volume and the preface states that he lives and/or works in Stratford, Connecticut. While I'm at it, I should point out that one of the tunes in this hymnal, identified as "Tony-y-Botel" (a.k.a. "Ebenezer") was composed in 1890 by THOMAS JOHN WILLIAMS (1869-1944). He is sometimes credited as T.J. Williams. And if you will permit a stretch... in my research on the above I also came across a JOHN G. WILLIAMS, an Anglican priest and broadcaster who had a long-running BBC radio talk show in the '50's and '60's. And the adventure continues...

Sketches vs. Scores

From: spsaudiomixers@webtv.net (Steven Schwartz)

    Since you invited further comments about the much restated clamor over the questionable re-orchestrating job in the new SUPERMAN CD, and even more to the point, it's necessity due to not being able to find the original score or parts, I have this observation:

    Out of the multiude of recorded (both audio and later, videotape) interview shows, programs about movie music, soundtrack composer profiles, etc. that I have collected in my library (gong back to over 30 years of such taping), I thought I remembered, and now just found, and re-listened to, the audio of an in-depth interview I taped off the air back on June 16, 1983 (only audio--before home VCR's were prevelent) of an ABC-TV 20/20 profile of John Williams.

    It included a tour of some of his home, in which in one room he points out to interviewer Bob Brown a bookcase wall filled with all of his personal copies of his scores! The interviewer says, and this is an exact quote: "...the musical scores he's written...have been carefully bound and fill 4 rows of bookshelves in his home"...

    While I can't recall exactly which score titles I saw in that piece while the camera panned along the row of neatly leatherbound scores, I'm sure SUPERMAN would have been among them since they even discussed the music. By the way, others interviewed on camera about Williams and his music were Lional Newman, Andre Previn, Steven Spielberg, and George Lucas.

    The point is, why wasn't his "leatherbound personal copy" of his score from his own home library avalable to the producers of the new CD? Where was it, or what happened to it? Incidently, while SUPERMAN is unquestionably a masterpiece, I still almost prefer his score (composed the very same year!) for 'THE FURY', but that's probably just my opinion.

I'm guessing that Williams's personal collection contained his sketches, which is what the Varese producers used for their album, and not the final orchestrated pages (which for that film would have been mostly by Herbert Spencer). The difference between the sketch and the orchestrated page is that the sketch is the first thing written, and has the music on 8-10 lines (or whatever) in an abbreviated form. The orchestrated page then fleshes it out for each and every instrument with all of the other markings clearly marked. Williams writes very complete sketches, but there are still some things that the orchestrator needs to interpret in order to fill out the score.

Good Intentions...

From: BillRossVLogic@webtv.net (William Ross)

    In reply to Steve Harris's letter of FSM September, First, When I saw Angie, I found the film unpleasant. The music, however, was enchanting! It made me thing of being rocked to sleep. What a joy it was to see the soundtrack listing at the end. I ran right out for it, at full price.

    Second, I propose a way to satisfy many collectors. If someone starts a website catering to those who want to see more releases, people could "vote" with their credit cards. If enough people pay $15, $20, $25, or whatever the price is, and the studio minimum is met, they can release any old soundtrack the collectors want. This could also determine how long the CDs are. If no minimum is met, no one gets charged. I would imagine we collectors could subsidise many issues.

This is a brilliant idea, but not brilliant enough. For one thing, it would be a logistical nightmare--we've found it hard enough taking credit card orders when we actually have the CD to sell. Also, it's not hard to figure out the choice titles to produce - it's just a matter of getting the license and doing it.

Also, even at $25 each, you'd still need to get hundreds of collectors to sign up to generate enough money.

And imagine this nightmare: you just barely fall short, and then a few hundred people have to be disappointed, and their money returned (or card info discarded)... and then they hate us the way they hate Sony Legacy for Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

The Edge

Responding to a question from last week:

From: Michael Schuermann <mschuermann@bigfoot.com>

    I was curious about [unreleased music in The Edge] at first as well, as I personally feel it's on of Goldsmith's best in recent years (and the film is wonderful as well!) Anyways, I sat down and watched the movie and then compared it to the CD. Seems to me that most of the music not on the CD is a lot of the action music involving the bear. And most of this is pretty repetitive and similar. The CD is a very good representation of what's in the film. The only thing that's not on the CD that doesn't involve the bear sequences directly (that I can remember) is the bear motif right before the surprise party towards the beginning of the film. Hope this helps!

A Nice Long Letter

From: Steve Kennedy <stev4uth@hotmail.com>

    I have been reading some of the commentary regarding film scores as used in a film and as stand-alone music. I have found this fascinating reading mostly because of the depth of emotion involved with the arguments. As a musicologist, I often wonder if the debate was so furious over Mozart's latest string quartet as it is with each new film score!

    In particular, there has been much discussion here and elsewhere regarding two scores from 1997, "Titanic" and "Amistad". Having recently reviewed these films again as videos, my impressions have changed somewhat regarding the music for these films.

    As to "Amistad", there seem to be a lot of Williams fans who hunger for the wonders of a "Raiders" or "Star Wars" score but not the style of say, "The Reivers", or "The Cowboys", two more Coplandesque scores (a common criticism of the "Amistad" score). I must admit that when I saw "Amistad" I had mixed feelings about it as a film, and the music seemed very recessed and inappropriate, but I listened to the disc quite a bit and enjoyed the music apart from the film.

    Upon seeing the film reduced to TV size, I have a higher appreciation of the film and the use of the score. One can see how "Saving Private Ryan"'s score would become that background presence in that film in a way that makes you forget it is there. "Amistad" excels at this. It underlies characters as themes begin to weave between the African and American elements in the film in very subtle ways. Williams has an uncanny ability to have musical presence in a film so that when you get to the end titles you go, "Wait, I think I heard that a minute or two ago." Goldsmith often has that same ability as do all the great film composers. I think what disappointed people with the film is they thought they were going to see a slavery ship film and what they got was a melodrama about the legal system, a kind of allegory to be applied to our own time. (A film that comes to us post-Simpson trial.) At any rate, a score that deserves debate.

    Then there was "Titanic". When I first saw this film, I was overwhelmed with the visual distinctions of class that Cameron took pains to point out. The final 30 minutes was overwhelming emotionally-how could it not be. Moved to the small screen, it plays like a bad melodrama without any social commentary bite. But what struck me the most was the music. I could not understand why there was all this celtic music playing or influencing the music of the film. The main characters were not Irish. The only thing I picked up was that they left from Ireland and there are scenes with Irish people representing the "lower classes". Then up popped the synth sounds and it seemed so out of place in the film. I am sure listening to the score is a great experience if you like celtic music, it was just bad for this film. (Here come the letters!) That style of music was fine for "Braveheart", another over-rated film and score, just not great for this film. Again, this did not strike me as much in the theater when I first saw either of these films.

    Way off the beaten path, I rewatched "Star Trek VI". Cliff Eidelman's score was always attractive to me because it reminded much of Holst's "The Planets", which Eidelman admits was his model for the opening theme of the film. Like much space opera, you are aware of the music throughout the film, it's not distractive, it's just there and you expect it to be there. Apart from the film, I will admit to this being a guilty pleasure in the same way that David Arnold's score for "Tomorrow Never Dies" makes great travel music during rush hour..hehe In both of these scores, the music plays well apart from the film mostly because characterizations are common to us and we know the story lines and expectations better. It is "pop" music in a way that the Horner and Williams' scores above are not totally intended to be (i.e., their popularity or lack thereof is incidental to the film).

    Finally, a word on the debate over the "Superman" disc which I intend to listen to this evening with luck. There is amazing polarity in readers reactions, something I am getting used to from film score fans (they are worse than us musicolgists!-hehe). I have been wondering about the "too slow" arguments that are coming up. In many of these "re-recordings/re-orchestrations", I would imagine that there should be some discrepancy of tempo and sound. It is something one gets used to classical music where there are multiple versions of a piece, something which I am understanding as a luxury.

    It would seem that film music fans suffer much from "authenticity" in a way the Baroque and 18th-century music scholars suffer and agonize over performance practice and "authenic period instrument" practice. We are fortunate to have on film amazing performances of these composer/conductors. Film music is a large body of music that is neglected even more so than serbo-croatian symphonies from the 1750s! But, one can only hope that in the coming decades we will see this music come to the forefront, after all, us "classical music lovers" are pretty much done replenishing our LPs, it's tiem to turn to another great body of music literature, that for film!

    Thanks for the space!

No problem!

Super Heresy!

From: "RomanDeppe" <roman.deppe@metronet.de>

    I am surprised how much everybody is talking about the new SUPERMAN - recording... I think that is a pretty lousy, lazy score. Something John Williams seemed not to care much about when he wrote it... it's is just like the main title-sequence from SUPERMAN: An endless, boring thing... I mean, the whole movie sucks (though I think it has some of the best special effects ever), there was nothing Williams could really stick to. No wonder he didn't return to the sequels, though I think Part 2 is pretty good, far above Part 1. That's really not the best score Williams wrote and probably the worst and most boring action-adventure-score he ever wrote. I am surprised that you, Lukas, like the music and the movie so much... but probably, because you saw it as a small kid and were just impressed by it at that time... such things can stick to you forever. But I am sure if the movie was made today, you would hate it like all other summer-blockbusters. It's a brainless, endless, completely un-exciting movie, just filled with f/x-extravaganza and blaring music to hide that the summation of the movie is: Nothing.

    Well, that's my opinion and it seems as if I am the only one with that opinion... (I saw the movie when I was a small kid, too the first time, and nevertheless thought it was boring).

Amazing. Apparently this is not a joke. I don't think Superman: The Movie is the greatest piece of cinema ever, but it is terrific comic book entertainment and the score is sensational. Roman may be the only person in the world who thinks Williams's score is "lazy."

If you love reading more endless reviews of the new Superman CD, just tune in next week, 'cause we've got more of them. Thanks!

Hisashi!

From: Riotengine@aol.com, Greg Espinoza

    I feel the subject of Hayao Miyazaki's composer and collaborator, Joe Hisashi deserved additional comment.

    Joe Hisashi is a guy not many people know of, but if you've ever watched the films of animator Hayao Miyazaki, you'd recognize his work. He's scored (as far as I know) every Miyazaki movie from Castle of Cagliostro, to Princess Mononoke (great score, BTW). Nausicaa, Laputa (Castle In The Sky), My Neighbor Totoro, Porco Rosso, and Kiki's Delivery Service are some of his best, and my favorites. He also scored some Takeshi Kitano gangster movies (Sonatine, Hana- Bi), and his style's still unmistakeable. Hisashi can write warm and melodic, but still compose great action cues. Hisashi is to Miyazaki, what Williams is to Spielberg, or Morricone to Leone; an indespensible collaboration whose contributions help the movie soar.

    Disney has obtained the rights to a number of Miyazaki films, and has recently released Kiki's Delivery Service to home video, with (Laputa) Castle in the Sky, coming next. Miramax will be releasing Princess Mononoke to theatres in July. It is the most successful animated film released in Japan, grossing $150 Million (U.S.) It was only recently displaced by Titanic.

Herrmann Site

Look for a new interview with Swiss conductor Adriano on Twelve Mile Reef: Bernard Herrmann Online; Adriano's output includes Herrmann's Jane Eyre, released in 1994 on the Marco Polo label. Discussed are a wide-range of film music related topics including "his personal friendships with Herrmann and Alfred Hitchcock, his long conducting and recording career with Marco Polo, his knowledge of obscure European film scores, etc." The interview is at http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/8407/Adriint2.html.

Check out our new poll question, on the home page! The results of the last one were interesting, with the '80s overtaking the '70s at the last minute. I voted for the '70s.

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