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 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Since my original, 'early days' film music heroes have either passed on (Goldsmith, Poledouris, Kamen, Barry) or slowed down/don't get much current work (Williams, Horner, Broughton, Holdridge, David Newman), I've been getting into composers from my time (late 70's onwards) who I neglected or missed at the time, due to the plethora of delights I already had on offer.
Although I still really dig Danny Elfman and chaps like Patrick Doyle, JNH, Chris Beck, I crave that sound that only the Silver Agers can provide.
It started with a (re)discovery of Jerry Fielding, and boy did I pick a good time to get back into him, with all the CD releases of recent times. I then moved onto Stu Phillips and John Scott (the latter of which I'm still having stacks of fun discovering) and now, thanks to a chance buying of Butch & Sundance: The Early Days (for $10 no less!!!), it's PATRICK WILLIAMS time.
I couldn't stop playing it and it was just the type of score I really love from yesteryear.
I decided to investigate him further (PW is one composer I can honestly say I never bothered with in my younger days. The only thing I knew by him was his Theme from Earth Day on the Boston Pops/Green CD, which I always liked).
A dirt cheap copy of Jesus had me wallowing in great joy, that's a real underrated score.
I'm currently trying to negotiate a swap for Cuba (the CD, not the country) with some fellow FSMers and I bagged a decent priced copy of The Grass Harp this week (hope it's a good'un).
There isn't a great deal of his stuff out there, filmscore-wise (I'm not interested in his jazz/Sinatra shenanigans). That only leaves the Ice Skating one and Used Cars.
Anyway, I'm sure I'll get to hear them sometime down the line.
Any other FSMers care to discuss Patrick Williams and his music?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Love his music from THE GRASS HARP and his JESUS Mini Series score was wonderful and a great achievement for him as well.

I had an LP of BUTCH AND SUNDANCE which I liked and going way back, I still enjoy popping on my old LP of THE ONE AND ONLY. Never heard CUBA. Patrick Williams is a fine composer!

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I too neglected Patrick Williams in my early soundtrack discovery days. We owe Bruce at Kritzerland a debt of gratitude for putting out CUBA and BUTCH & SUNDANCE. Both really fine scores that make me want to explore more Patrick W.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 6:47 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Some of my favorites of his includes MACHO CALLAHAN-70-Nice one- SSSSSSSSSSSS-73-Love the main theme piano frolic-THE ONE AND ONLY-78-Fine main theme ballad-THE CHEAP DETECTIVE-78- Was wacky and fun-CUBA-79- Great main theme-HERO AT LARGE-80-Energetic and a asset. IT'S MY TURN-80-great song-etc etc

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 6:56 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Bruce must be commended for releasing music by this truly under-appreciated talent. I'd also love to see Mr. Williams' Columbo scores on CD, in particular Murder, Smoke and Shadows (1989).

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I would release anything by Patrick Williams - he's been a personal favorite of mine for decades - I discovered him from a TV movie score called Incident in San Francisco - a terrific little film with Richard Kiley - his score was fantastic and it's a shame he doesn't have it because I'd put it out in a heartbeat. There is a piece on one of his jazz albums that's similar and I do have that. I recommend highly all his jazz/orchestra CDs - they're quite brilliant. Cuba, for those who don't have it, is a GREAT score, and so is Butch and Sundance.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   Jörn   (Member)

I would release anything by Patrick Williams - he's been a personal favorite of mine for decades - I discovered him from a TV movie score called Incident in San Francisco - a terrific little film with Richard Kiley - his score was fantastic and it's a shame he doesn't have it because I'd put it out in a heartbeat. There is a piece on one of his jazz albums that's similar and I do have that. I recommend highly all his jazz/orchestra CDs - they're quite brilliant. Cuba, for those who don't have it, is a GREAT score, and so is Butch and Sundance.


I personly like mostly his music for the television series LOU GRANT and STREETS OF SAN FRANSISCO.

Beside the gorgeous main theme, Williams wrote mostly all music for the episodes of LOU GRANT.
Great music for a truly great show!

A release with music of LOU GRANT would be a dream.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   lwazinkiwane310   (Member)

I would release anything by Patrick Williams - he's been a personal favorite of mine for decades - I discovered him from a TV movie score called Incident in San Francisco - a terrific little film with Richard Kiley - his score was fantastic and it's a shame he doesn't have it because I'd put it out in a heartbeat. There is a piece on one of his jazz albums that's similar and I do have that. I recommend highly all his jazz/orchestra CDs - they're quite brilliant. Cuba, for those who don't have it, is a GREAT score, and so is Butch and Sundance.


I personly like mostly his music for the television series LOU GRANT and STREETS OF SAN FRANSISCO.

Beside the gorgeous main theme, Williams wrote mostly all music for the episodes of LOU GRANT.
Great music for a truly great show!

A release with music of LOU GRANT would be a dream.


I have got the collection of DVD's including several films scored by Williams. I've been watching films lately and his scores sounds wonderful.

I would love to see several television scores being released I can't wait to hear it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 8:08 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Disappointed Disney re-released The Muppet Movie soundtrack without any additional music. Love his Flying Dreams from NIMH.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 8:31 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

If you do vinyl, keep your eye open for these, all of which pop up for short dough:

Threshold (Capitol, 1973)
How Sweet It Is (RCA, 1968)
Shades of Today (Verve, circa 1967)

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Disappointed Disney re-released The Muppet Movie soundtrack without any additional music. Love his Flying Dreams from NIMH.

NIMH was Paul Williams.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 8:55 AM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

I only have one PW and I really like it. It is the score to the documentary, Amazon.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Illustrator   (Member)

If you do vinyl, keep your eye open for these, all of which pop up for short dough:

Threshold (Capitol, 1973)
How Sweet It Is (RCA, 1968)
Shades of Today (Verve, circa 1967)


I haven't heard the other two but Threshold is a must for anyone who loves the Streets Of San Francisco and that era of scoring.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)



I haven't heard the other two but Threshold is a must for anyone who loves the Streets Of San Francisco and that era of scoring.




I couldn't agree more.

I have mentioned Threshold elsewhere on the board before; it's a superb big-band album which merges elements of jazz, rock and classical music into something that plays a bit like a 70's tv score.

The solos (John Guerin on drums, Larry Bunker on vibes/marimba, Buddy Childers/Marvin Stamm on trumpet, Tom Scott on woodwind etc etc....) are fantastic and if you listen to tracks like the title track, the Streets of San Francisco influences are obvious.

It's available on iTunes in their not-especially-good bitrate and I think is still available on CD via Patrick Williams' Artistshare page.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 9:34 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)



I haven't heard the other two but Threshold is a must for anyone who loves the Streets Of San Francisco and that era of scoring.


Been a while since I've spun "How Sweet it Is" but IIRC it is in a kind of 60s Mancini bag. "Shades of Today" is very much a mid- to late-60s Creed Taylor/Verve album, which in my universe is a good thing.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 9:36 AM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

How To Beat The High Co$t Of Living (Kritzerland? BSX?)
To complete the1980 girl power trio with 9-5 and Tootsie.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Disappointed Disney re-released The Muppet Movie soundtrack without any additional music. Love his Flying Dreams from NIMH.

NIMH was Paul Williams.


Shoot, I get those two mixed up all the time.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Illustrator   (Member)

"Shades of Today" is very much a mid- to late-60s Creed Taylor/Verve album, which in my universe is a good thing.


Thanks, I'll look out for it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I will spin all three LPs this weekend and report back.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

If you do vinyl, keep your eye open for these, all of which pop up for short dough:

Threshold (Capitol, 1973)
How Sweet It Is (RCA, 1968)
Shades of Today (Verve, circa 1967)


Williams recorded 2 other pop/big band albums for Verve, "Heavy Vibrations" and "Think".
I don't recall any of them being released on CD. There was another LP titled "Carry On" but I can't remember the label it was on.

 
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