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it was TENNESSEE ERNIE FORD!
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Apr 18, 2005 - 7:31 AM
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manderley
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I just pulled out my DVD of this and as everyone is pointing out, it is, most certainly, "Tennessee" Ernie Ford doing the vocal over the Main Title---backed by some exotic female voices (supervised by Ken Darby) and Lionel Newman's conducting of the Fox Orchestra.
This DVD, by the way, is beautifully mastered with a very nice-and-wide CinemaScope picture and "4-track High-Fidelity Stereophonic Sound".
If you're interested in these sorts of films you'd probably enjoy getting the DVD.
The picture, itself, was photographed in the beautiful Banff and Lake Louise area of Canada, and the scenery is gorgeous. Several of the sequences were filmed just down the hill from the back side of the famous Banff Springs Hotel. (I've shot in this locale several times over the years, and from the Fox set for these sequences, Mitchum could have walked easily to the hotel's bar and Monroe to her hotel room to call Lee Strasberg for the day's acting tips!  )
In my film-music collection, for those films which didn't have soundtrack albums of one sort or another but just "singles", I have made my own soundtrack album "box sets" with computer-printed spines and covers (utilizing old 1/4" reel-to-reel tape boxes).
Usually, six 45rpm records in their paper sleeves will fit into one box, and although I don't always have six 45s to put in them, they usually contain a few "cover" versions of the songs or themes I've been able to find for each particular film over the years.
I pulled out my RIVER OF NO RETURN box and found:
CAPITOL F-2810:
"Tennessee" Ernie Ford singing
"River of No Return"
with Orchestra and Chorus Conducted by Billy May
20TH FOX RECORDS 311:
Marilyn Monroe singing
"River of No Return"
(backed with one of the other tunes from the film, "One Silver Dollar")
CORAL RECORDS 9-61186
Sons of the Pioneers singing
"River of No Return"
(with unidentified orchestral accompaniment)
Incidentally, the pressbook ad I've used as the cover art says:
Robert Mitchum.....The Fuse
Marilyn Monroe.....The Flame
in CinemaScope
.....take you into God's country
where the Devil wears six-guns....
in the love-battle of the century!"
They sure knew how to "sell" movies then!!!
(None of those Roger Ebert or Susan Granger critics' quotes for Mitchum and Monroe! )
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Apr 18, 2005 - 4:47 PM
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riotengine
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I just pulled out my DVD of this and as everyone is pointing out, it is, most certainly, "Tennessee" Ernie Ford doing the vocal over the Main Title---backed by some exotic female voices (supervised by Ken Darby) and Lionel Newman's conducting of the Fox Orchestra.
The picture, itself, was photographed in the beautiful Banff and Lake Louise area of Canada, and the scenery is gorgeous. Several of the sequences were filmed just down the hill from the back side of the famous Banff Springs Hotel. (I've shot in this locale several times over the years, and from the Fox set for these sequences, Mitchum could have walked easily to the hotel's bar and Monroe to her hotel room to call Lee Strasberg for the day's acting tips! )
In my film-music collection, for those films which didn't have soundtrack albums of one sort or another but just "singles", I have made my own soundtrack album "box sets" with computer-printed spines and covers (utilizing old 1/4" reel-to-reel tape boxes).
Usually, six 45rpm records in their paper sleeves will fit into one box, and although I don't always have six 45s to put in them, they usually contain a few "cover" versions of the songs or themes I've been able to find for each particular film over the years.
I pulled out my RIVER OF NO RETURN box and found:
CAPITOL F-2810:
"Tennessee" Ernie Ford singing
"River of No Return"
with Orchestra and Chorus Conducted by Billy May
20TH FOX RECORDS 311:
Marilyn Monroe singing
"River of No Return"
(backed with one of the other tunes from the film, "One Silver Dollar")
CORAL RECORDS 9-61186
Sons of the Pioneers singing
"River of No Return"
(with unidentified orchestral accompaniment)
Incidentally, the pressbook ad I've used as the cover art says:
Robert Mitchum.....The Fuse
Marilyn Monroe.....The Flame
in CinemaScope
.....take you into God's country
where the Devil wears six-guns....
in the love-battle of the century!"
They sure knew how to "sell" movies then!!!
(None of those Roger Ebert or Susan Granger critics' quotes for Mitchum and Monroe! )
Thanks, Manderley. What a wealth of information. I guess there was never a definitive release of the River Of No Return soundtrack back in the fifties?
This DVD, by the way, is beautifully mastered with a very nice-and-wide CinemaScope picture and "4-track High-Fidelity Stereophonic Sound".
If you're interested in these sorts of films you'd probably enjoy getting the DVD.
"River" is one of my favorite westerns from the fifties. I've been through two previous LD versions, but I'm eventually going to pick up the DVD. One of the things I enjoyed about the film, (And the gorgeous scenery) was the music and that theme. I never really knew who the vocalist was, now that question is answered.
BTW, is it unusual that Tennessee Ernie Ford wasn't credited on the film? I'm wondering why he didn't have a screen credit. Could that have been some sort of contractual issue?
Greg Espinoza
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Apr 18, 2005 - 5:30 PM
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manderley
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.....BTW, is it unusual that Tennessee Ernie Ford wasn't credited on the film? I'm wondering why he didn't have a screen credit. Could that have been some sort of contractual issue?.....
Just a guess, Greg:
It's possible that Ford's singing of the title song was a last minute addition to the track, after the film was completed and the Main Title cards were shot.
When these films were done in those days the song material was often sent around to the various recording companies to find out if they wanted to do "cover" versions of the tunes. Sometimes the artists would snap at the offer, they'd get a hit recording, and the studio would get great publicity.
I suspect that the Main Title may have originally been planned to have a chorus singing the song, rather than a solo "star", but when the studio heard Ford's as yet unreleased master they decided on using him.
In the same period, THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN was originally shot as WE BELIEVE IN LOVE, and a title song was written for that (later recorded by Gogi Grant), before the THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN title was selected and Frank Sinatra agreed to do the new title tune. The recently released THREE COINS cd doesn't include Sinatra's opening vocal so his employment was probably a very special contractual deal made after the shooting, which couldn't be cleared today.
They sometimes made up their minds after the fact, or first previews, rather than before.
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Apr 19, 2005 - 6:11 AM
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riotengine
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.....BTW, is it unusual that Tennessee Ernie Ford wasn't credited on the film? I'm wondering why he didn't have a screen credit. Could that have been some sort of contractual issue?.....
Just a guess, Greg:
It's possible that Ford's singing of the title song was a last minute addition to the track, after the film was completed and the Main Title cards were shot.
When these films were done in those days the song material was often sent around to the various recording companies to find out if they wanted to do "cover" versions of the tunes. Sometimes the artists would snap at the offer, they'd get a hit recording, and the studio would get great publicity.
I suspect that the Main Title may have originally been planned to have a chorus singing the song, rather than a solo "star", but when the studio heard Ford's as yet unreleased master they decided on using him.
In the same period, THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN was originally shot as WE BELIEVE IN LOVE, and a title song was written for that (later recorded by Gogi Grant), before the THREE COINS IN THE FOUNTAIN title was selected and Frank Sinatra agreed to do the new title tune. The recently released THREE COINS cd doesn't include Sinatra's opening vocal so his employment was probably a very special contractual deal made after the shooting, which couldn't be cleared today.
They sometimes made up their minds after the fact, or first previews, rather than before.
Thanks for the response, Manderley. That's some very cool info.
Greg Espinoza
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I just pulled out my DVD of this and as everyone is pointing out, it is, most certainly, "Tennessee" Ernie Ford doing the vocal over the Main Title---backed by some exotic female voices (supervised by Ken Darby) and Lionel Newman's conducting of the Fox Orchestra.
This DVD, by the way, is beautifully mastered with a very nice-and-wide CinemaScope picture and "4-track High-Fidelity Stereophonic Sound".
If you're interested in these sorts of films you'd probably enjoy getting the DVD.
The picture, itself, was photographed in the beautiful Banff and Lake Louise area of Canada, and the scenery is gorgeous. Several of the sequences were filmed just down the hill from the back side of the famous Banff Springs Hotel. (I've shot in this locale several times over the years, and from the Fox set for these sequences, Mitchum could have walked easily to the hotel's bar and Monroe to her hotel room to call Lee Strasberg for the day's acting tips! )
In my film-music collection, for those films which didn't have soundtrack albums of one sort or another but just "singles", I have made my own soundtrack album "box sets" with computer-printed spines and covers (utilizing old 1/4" reel-to-reel tape boxes).
Usually, six 45rpm records in their paper sleeves will fit into one box, and although I don't always have six 45s to put in them, they usually contain a few "cover" versions of the songs or themes I've been able to find for each particular film over the years.
I pulled out my RIVER OF NO RETURN box and found:
CAPITOL F-2810:
"Tennessee" Ernie Ford singing
"River of No Return"
with Orchestra and Chorus Conducted by Billy May
20TH FOX RECORDS 311:
Marilyn Monroe singing
"River of No Return"
(backed with one of the other tunes from the film, "One Silver Dollar")
CORAL RECORDS 9-61186
Sons of the Pioneers singing
"River of No Return"
(with unidentified orchestral accompaniment)
Incidentally, the pressbook ad I've used as the cover art says:
Robert Mitchum.....The Fuse
Marilyn Monroe.....The Flame
in CinemaScope
.....take you into God's country
where the Devil wears six-guns....
in the love-battle of the century!"
They sure knew how to "sell" movies then!!!
(None of those Roger Ebert or Susan Granger critics' quotes for Mitchum and Monroe! )
Hi manderley,
I was just wondering if you ever made up your own little box set for The Man From Laramie ? This is my all-time favourite cowboy theme song. I've had the Al Martino original 45rpm release on the Capitol label since I was a kid and a while back a very kind fellow FSM poster sent me a CDR containing the original choral version from the film, with different lyrics. A version sung by Jimmy Young was released in the UK way back then but I've never had that.
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I do wish heartily that FSM would release this score plus songs on CD - it is unjustly forgotten.
More likely to be a Varese title, now that FSM's Fox relationship has lapsed.
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I do wish heartily that FSM would release this score plus songs on CD - it is unjustly forgotten.
More likely to be a Varese title, now that FSM's Fox relationship has lapsed.
Just as likely to be on Intrada these days.
Possibly, it could be paired with another score as I don't recall there being a lot of music within the film.
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I do wish heartily that FSM would release this score plus songs on CD - it is unjustly forgotten.
More likely to be a Varese title, now that FSM's Fox relationship has lapsed.
Just as likely to be on Intrada these days.
Possibly, it could be paired with another score as I don't recall there being a lot of music within the film.
I would think that the Marilyn vocals would be a big selling point - perhaps there are outtakes or alternate versions in the Fox archives . I would guess that there is at least 30 minutes of background score - none of which has ever been released.
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