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 Posted:   May 17, 2006 - 1:14 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I missed seeing FATELESS when it played here in L.A. earlier this year, but in the end I was glad as I just caught it on DVD and found that the "making of" featured a very brief interview with Ennio Morricone.

I have mixed feelings about the film. While it was magnificently photographed and scored (rather sparsely) I wasn't sure I got the underlying message of the boy's viewpoint of living in the horrors of the concentration camp during the story. It was only in the end that it was summed up and perhaps it was a poor translation that weakened the impact for me.

The extras on the DVD helped me understand a lot more. During the "making of," director Lajos Koltai mentions why he filmed the sequences the way he did and it made the structure of the film make more sense.

Also, as mentioned earlier, there is a brief interview with Morricone where he discusses the film's themes and also director Koltai has a brief conversation with Morricone during a playback of one of the film's themes.

Also fascinating is the interview with the author Imre Kert├ęsz, who wrote both the book and screenplay for FATELESS. He is VERY critical of Speilberg, SCHINDLER'S LIST and Speilberg's Shoah Foundation.

James

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2006 - 3:13 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I'm glad to hear that this is finally out in DVD. I've been looking at my rental stores hoping it would be released. I think Morricone's music is quite lovely, and I'd like to hear it within the context of the movie.


An aside: I keep hoping that Gerard Butler's Beowulf and Grendal will be released in America. If not, hoping it will at least be offered as a DVD. Also, I haven't ever been able to find Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang on DVD. Waiting, waiting, tap, tap, tap....

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2006 - 3:23 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I'm glad to hear that this is finally out in DVD. I've been looking at my rental stores hoping it would be released. I think Morricone's music is quite lovely, and I'd like to hear it within the context of the movie.


An aside: I keep hoping that Gerard Butler's Beowulf and Grendal will be released in America. If not, hoping it will at least be offered as a DVD. Also, I haven't ever been able to find Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang on DVD. Waiting, waiting, tap, tap, tap....


I liked the score in the film, but found it a bit too reminiscent of other Morricone scores when I heard it away from the film. I think perhaps all the glowing comments before I got the CD made it a disappointment for me.

Oddly, I've read several reviews of the film that really hated the score.

As for KISS KISS BANG BANG, it'll be out on DVD on June 13th.

James

 
 
 Posted:   May 17, 2006 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   Bob Bryden   (Member)

Very interesting film - and worthy addition to
the Holocaust Cinema 'canon'. I laughed when I read that the Israeili press were calling 'Schindler's List' - 'Steven Spielberg's Holocaust Park'. The 'Fateless'
interview with it's author is quite scathing
concerning Spielberg's apparently 'inauthentic'
rendering of events. Morricone's score for 'Fateless' is the first by him in years that I'll go out and purchase.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2006 - 1:48 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Bond1965, I too had some problems with this film. The music is effective but used sparsely, and I think we do miss some of the boy's insights (or lack of) through translation. Beautifully photographed. There were heart-rendering and gut-wrenching scenes in the concentration camps. Still, I found the film rather weak due to the VERY slow pace of the movie. At times I was just plain bored, and such an important topic should never be boring.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2006 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Bond1965, I too had some problems with this film. The music is effective but used sparsely, and I think we do miss some of the boy's insights (or lack of) through translation. Beautifully photographed. There were heart-rendering and gut-wrenching scenes in the concentration camps. Still, I found the film rather weak due to the VERY slow pace of the movie. At times I was just plain bored, and such an important topic should never be boring.

For me, the most emotional scene in the whole film was during the father's goodbye dinner at the beginning of the film, with the grandmother getting up & down, not sure what to do (and perhaps a bit senile), and the grandfather's sudden urge to run and hug his son. There was a lot of subtle emotions also going on during that whole sequence.

James

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2006 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   franz_conrad   (Member)

I would very much like to see this film. I missed it when it was in Sydney cinemas a little while ago, and I'm looking forward to hearing the Morricone score in context.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2006 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Still, I found the film rather weak due to the VERY slow pace of the movie. At times I was just plain bored, and such an important topic should never be boring.

Then Tarkovskij, Angelopoulos and Antonioni are not for you. wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2006 - 5:38 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)



Then Tarkovskij, Angelopoulos and Antonioni are not for you. wink


The Bolton Wanderers midfield?

 
 
 Posted:   May 21, 2006 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

big grin

 
 Posted:   Sep 16, 2013 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   DavidinBerkeley   (Member)

I picked this up at the library and quite liked it.

I didn't quite have the problem understanding it like mentioned above, but I did read the synopsis on the box cover, which helped.

I didn't get to see the "making of" because of a problem with the disc, though.

 
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