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 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   castilloken   (Member)

The new cd set of the Charge of the Light Brigade is exceptional! The booklet is great, the printing on the cds is beautiful, not too mention the music is wonderful. Also, I was glad to see in the booklet that John Morgan and William Stromberg are working on a complete Prince and the Pauper score which I'm looking forward to. I know they did a reconstruction of Captain Blood a few years back, but I am still hoping they would produce a special cd of the complete Captain Blood Korngold score(I have a German version) just like he did for the Charge of the Light Brigade, the Sea Hawk, Black Swan and Captain from Castile scores with a nice booklet (maybe Rudy Behlmer could help with the booklet)? Other good scores for the future (if they could find the music) might include Blackbeard the Pirate, Frenchman's Creek, Unconquered, Reap the Wild Wind, The Buccanner (1938) or the Spanish Main. I know these all in the historical romance catagory, but that catagory should attract both male and female interests so as long as the music is good (and it is), so why not.

Ken Gentile

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 5:11 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)


Amazing, isn't it? Somebody has already started a superfluous thread. See below...

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 6:33 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Outstanding recording, however, on a realy good stereo system the sound is a tad harsh as was "Mysterious Island"

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   William Stromberg   (Member)

Outstanding recording, however, on a realy good stereo system the sound is a tad harsh as was "Mysterious Island"

Are you sure it's REALLY good?

All of the high-end systems I've played it on sound fantastic. Maybe you could adjust your equalization a little? It is a very up front, close microphone recording, but it's not harsh here in my studio which I consider to be pretty high end.

Sorry if you're disappointed.

Actually, I consider "Mysterious Island" to be one of our least harsh. That's weird.

Whatever,
Bill

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Outstanding recording, however, on a realy good stereo system the sound is a tad harsh as was "Mysterious Island"

Are you sure it's REALLY good?

All of the high-end systems I've played it on sound fantastic. Maybe you could adjust your equalization a little? It is a very up front, close microphone recording, but it's not harsh here in my studio which I consider to be pretty high end.

Sorry if you're disappointed.

Actually, I consider "Mysterious Island" to be one of our least harsh. That's weird.

Whatever,
Bill


I meant no disrepect, I love the recording, and I LOVE up front sound!!!! I think sometimes my ears are a bit sensitive, and I was playing the CD too loud. I much prefer this sound rather then laid back recordings i.e. the Varese "Patton re-recording which I detest. I have bought all of your recording, and they are all spendid.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   crazyunclerolo   (Member)

My socks were blown off by this magnificent rerecording. It wasn't a score I knew well, but I count on William, John and Anna to bring the very best music to my attention. Their Tribute label is the most exciting thing going in our hobby, as far as I'm concerned. It's as if Gerhardt had recorded complete scores! And the production values and liner notes in the booklets and tray cards are sweet icing on the delectable cake. Bravo, bravo, encore!

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   robertmro   (Member)

William,

I suspect that this score means as much to you as it does to me.

Thanks, that's all I can say.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 8:44 PM   
 By:   IloveJerry   (Member)

Outstanding recording, however, on a really good stereo system the sound is a tad harsh as was "Mysterious Island"

What kind of system do you have?

It doesnt sound harsh to me. In fact it makes most of my other soundtracks sound harsh, and limp and distorted and suckey.
I have a B&K amp, Sonic Frontiers Preamp, Ayre cd player and Magnapan speakers

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2009 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Outstanding recording, however, on a really good stereo system the sound is a tad harsh as was "Mysterious Island"

What kind of system do you have?

It doesnt sound harsh to me. In fact it makes most of my other soundtracks sound harsh, and limp and distorted and suckey.
I have a B&K amp, Sonic Frontiers Preamp, Ayre cd player and Magnapan speakers


BK amp, cambridge pre, Cal. Lab CD player & Kef 104 speakers. I just think I had the volume to high.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2009 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   estgrey   (Member)

It is unquestionably a very fine performance, nicely recorded and beautifully packaged. Stromberg, Morgan, et al deserve to be very proud of their achievement. My only qualm is still the score itself. It is by no means a bad score, in my opinion, but even after all these years I tend to have a luke-warm response to Steiner (excepting the Adventures of Don Juan).

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2009 - 3:15 PM   
 By:   John Morgan   (Member)

It is unquestionably a very fine performance, nicely recorded and beautifully packaged. Stromberg, Morgan, et al deserve to be very proud of their achievement. My only qualm is still the score itself. It is by no means a bad score, in my opinion, but even after all these years I tend to have a luke-warm response to Steiner (excepting the Adventures of Don Juan).

Steiner is certainly not everyone's cup of tea. Of course, the same can be said for any composer in history, both in and out of film music. For me, it is one of the seminal, great scores of all time. But everyone is entitled to their opinion. It's like someone telling you what their favorite color is. It may be interesting, but means little in the scheme of things.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2009 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I'm picking this one up soon, but i can't comment yet. I know I'll love it though, just from the clips.

The great thing about a release like this is that people have preconceptions about Steiner etc. that are based on basically bad old dialled-down recordings etc.. Steiner was really the man who introduced leitmotif style to Hollywood in a big way, and it's easy to forget that he was as revolutionary in his way, as Herrmann or North etc. later.

I get these Steiner moods sometimes when he's just what I need to hear. I have no doubt that these recordings and maybe this one in particular will bring Steiner back to centre-stage. He's really only getting a good airing for the first time since Gerhardt.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2009 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   estgrey   (Member)

John Morgan: Steiner is certainly not everyone's cup of tea. Of course, the same can be said for any composer in history, both in and out of film music. For me, it is one of the seminal, great scores of all time.

Well, I doubt that I will become that much of a convert, but my opinion of the score may improve when I play the CDs over my speakers this weekend, rather than headphones. I hate headphones, particularly for anything with a broad dynamic range, but they are a necessity at work.

On to Prince and the Pauper?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2009 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   MMM   (Member)

The new CDs are sensational, from all standpoints (orchestration, conducting, quality of the music, quality of the recording, etc). I will chime in more later, but there is NOTHING harsh or unpleasant about the quality of the recording. In fact, it's nothing short of brilliant, and if all re-recordings were done with the incredibly high standard that all Tribute Film Classic releases have achieved, there would be almost no discussion about whether original tracks or re-recordings are preferable, because re-recordings would blow the originals out of the water. Congratulations to the Unholy Three of Bill, Anna, and whatsisname -- they have done it again!

P. S. CHARGE... is a monumental creation by Steiner and has long deserved to be preserved the way it finally has been.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2009 - 11:53 PM   
 By:   John Black   (Member)

I'm not familiar with this score at all, and I haven't seen the film in at least 40 years, so there's no nostalgia factor for me.

That said, Steiner's HELEN OF TROY and KING RICHARD AND THE CRUSADERS are two of my favorite scores. Given that factoid, might I like LIGHT BRIGADE? Or, is that a meaningless apples to oranges comparison?

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 12:07 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I'm not familiar with this score at all, and I haven't seen the film in at least 40 years, so there's no nostalgia factor for me.

That said, Steiner's HELEN OF TROY and KING RICHARD AND THE CRUSADERS are two of my favorite scores. Given that factoid, might I like LIGHT BRIGADE? Or, is that a meaningless apples to oranges comparison?


Why don't you buy it, listen to it, and figure it out for yourself?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 12:28 AM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Calm down Steven! Enjoy the music. I plan on doing so in the near future. smile It'll be my first purchase of February. Woohoo.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 12:34 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Calm down Steven! Enjoy the music. I plan on doing so in the near future. smile It'll be my first purchase of February. Woohoo.

I am calm. I just think one should take a plunge and figure it out for themselves.

See? I'm as calm as a calf sucking mommy's teet.

 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2009 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   John Morgan   (Member)

I'm not familiar with this score at all, and I haven't seen the film in at least 40 years, so there's no nostalgia factor for me.

That said, Steiner's HELEN OF TROY and KING RICHARD AND THE CRUSADERS are two of my favorite scores. Given that factoid, might I like LIGHT BRIGADE? Or, is that a meaningless apples to oranges comparison?


Doesn't Screen Archives have some clips to listen to? I guess it is apples and oranges, but grown on the same tree.

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2009 - 3:56 AM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Got it this evening and listening now. Does anyone else agree with me that early Steiner scores were some of his best compositions? This is just excellent.

 
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