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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2011 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I've seen only the first of the four (?) films and I like it very much.

I have the CD soundtrack from the first film, and I also like it very much.

I have the older Dirty Harry Anthology CD, but I lost the case ages ago so I don't know what is from what film. I recognize the main theme from the first film, and Scorpio's theme. Some of this CD is good; some of it has godawful 80s production (especially drums) and there is a horrible smooth jazz track. I don't know which films these other 15 or 20 tracks are from.

So:

Are any of the other movies worth seeing?

Are they all on DVD?

Did any of the other scores come out on LP or CD?

If so, are they any good?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2011 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

All of them are out on both DVD and CD (complete scores).

Magnum Force - love the movie and music
The Enforcer - love the movie and music
The Dead Pool - movie and music are pretty good
Sudden Impact - movie and music are pretty good

That's one person's opinion. Others will disagree particularly on the music for the last two but I wasn't crazy about them.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2011 - 5:54 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

So there are FIVE movies?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2011 - 11:02 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Yup, five movies total.

Dirty Harry (1971)
Magnum Force (1973)
The Enforcer (1976)
Sudden Impact (1983)
The Dead Pool (1988)

They're available in a terrific box set (which is what I have), but I think they're also available individually on DVD/Blu-Ray. Dirty Harry and Sudden Impact (which Eastwood also directed) are my Top 2 favorites and The Enforcer is my least favorite, but I do like them all.

The scores have all been released on CD by Lalo Schfrin's label, Aleph Records. I like the scores within the context of the films, but Dirty Harry is the only one I enjoy on its own. I also have the Dirty Harry Anthology CD, and I find that (overall) it gives me most of the highlights from Magnum Force that I'd want, and actually all of my favorite parts from Sudden Impact. The Enforcer is sometimes a little too much funk for me, so I know it's something I'd never listen to on its own.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2011 - 11:06 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

So there are FIVE movies?

Yep, five, of which Sudden Impact and Dead Pool in that order are the last and least. I'm never going to waste any more time watching them.

All the music to be found in the series is superb - Schifrin and Fielding - and I have a particular fondness for The Enforcer, both film and score, although Dirty Harry undoubtedly set the bar very high in every respect.

TG

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2011 - 11:50 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Bit like the Death Wish series - and many other series. Started well, finished embarrassingly. The first one was the best, Dirty Harry. Original and different idea, great script, and with a brilliant score. Magnum Force nearly as good - fantastic main theme.
Enforcer had a good score from a different direction but the film wasnt as good as the first two.

The last two - well, as TallGuy posted, less said about them the better. When I think of the killer chasing Eastwood's car and driving a car at speed but also operating a radio controlled model car bomb with the dexterity of world champion teenager it brings back bad memories!! Score for sudden impact was alright but a little too much 80s flavour disco drums, for me, dated it very quickly.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 3:28 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I have all five Aleph issues of these scores and The Dirty Harry Anthology, which includes some alternate material. I really like the scores to these films, particularly the first three. Schifrin's music is prickly, frightening, gritty and determined. Fielding's score adds a little more levity, I think it's the most fun to listen to out of all of them (the funky chase sequence in the middle is awesome).

The latter two Schifrin scores are interesting as they continue developing the thematic material for Harry, but in context of the sound of a different era. There are undeniably very good moments in the latter two scores, but like the films they are shoehorning something from the 70s into an 80s idiom with some uncomfortable results. I like them, but they're not as effective as the scores for the first two films.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

So there are FIVE movies?

All the music to be found in the series is superb - Schifrin and Fielding - and I have a particular fondness for The Enforcer, both film and score, although Dirty Harry undoubtedly set the bar very high in every respect.

TG


I couldn't agree more. Though Enforcer is not best Fielding's work, it includes gorgeous jazz tracks, e.g. roof top chase. And among Schifrin's Dirty Harry scores, the first of the series is surely the best.

If I may find a defect in the Dirty Harry soundtrack releases it's surely represented by the covers. I would have liked original poster art, instead of using Eastwood's ice face.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   zippy   (Member)

Oops. You're thinking "The Gauntlet".

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

Oops. You're thinking "The Gauntlet".

right zippy! my mistake.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

i really like All films

once I found it odd becaurse Harry would have sex with a girl in Sudden Impact - but at that time i had only seen DIRTY HARRY and THE ENFORCER - i had not seen MAGNUM FORCE - having seen MF today i don't find it odd for having sleeping with the girl in SI.


I guess i saw Harry a bit hard-edged in DH and TE.


BTW the sound Effecs in SI opening theme - i believe they are part of the recorded score and not dialogue from the film.


The music in the N64 game San Francisco Rush has sounds that reminds me a bit of the SI opening music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2011 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Dirty Harry movies, best-to-worst:

-Dirty Harry (1971): A-

-Sudden Impact (1983): B+

-The Enforcer (1976): B

-The Dead Pool (1988): B-

-Magnum Force (1973): C+

Scores, best to worst:

-Magnum Force (the main title is totally kick-ass), Dirty Harry, Sudden Impact, The Enforcer (the only Harry score written by Jerry Fielding), The Dead Pool (this last one is steeped in that late-80's drum-machine style I detest)

 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2011 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

The first three scores are excellent, and the last two are also good. I have them all. Lalo is mostly Lalo on "Magnum Force," and this is heard emphatically with intense Argentinian / Afro-Cuban horn blasts a few bars before the end of the main title. Love Lalo. But the first two scores are really 1960s scores (e.g. fuzzed-bass, creepy vocal-synth lines) projected onto 1970s films.


The gem of the bunch is "The Enforcer." It is a study in the American 1970s jazz-fusion film score approach. It is a bit thicker than the typical Calfornia studio-musician sound (e.g. Tom Scott, L Carlton), but that's only bc of Fielding's compositions, which account for the politcally toxic and socially upside-down 70s. His score also (rightly) borrows thematic material as needed from the first two DH films. You'll also hear typical Fielding 12-tone flurries, and behind the bridge phrases that Penderecki himself would enjoy.

The funky cue mentioned by SwashBuckler is "Rooftop Chase." What a great bass line (using both a Fender electric bass and an acoustic double-bass). Awesome. For the guitar, it sounds like a Gibson playing the main line, and a Fender playing those fills. It sounds like Tommy Tedesco does the Gibson line on the "Rooftop Chase" cue, but I have no way of knowing. Ray Brown, J Porcaro, Tommy Tedesco were all players on "The Enforcer." You'll hear some cool Fender Rhodes playing throughout too!


Someone mentioned Death Wish, and the scores for those films are generally not my cup of tea. But the original DW was scored by Herbie Hancock, using what I believe to be the exact players of his HeadHunters band. So, DW becomes the fourth piece of the 1970 jazz-funk-fusion puzzle that is HeadHunters (HH, Thrust, Flood, DW).


 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2011 - 5:59 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Thanks all. I will probably seek out #2 and #3, both scores and films, but skip the final two.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2011 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Simon Underwood   (Member)

If you invest time looking at the first films, Sudden Impact and The Dead Pool are still worth a look and are entertaining enough. I watched The Dead Pool again this week after acquiring the CD, and it's a quirky little thriller, held down by an older, gruffer Eastwood. (One day, when I'm a director, I think I'll pattern my behaviour on Liam Neeson's character, just to annoy people)

Also, thinking back, I remembered that when I was 11, I saw it on it's UK TV premiere and I remembered how instantly the main title music grabbed me - I think it might actually have been one of the first times a score jumped out and me and I started to appreciate film music, so I'd recommend it.

The Sudden Impact score is great, though I'd put the film below the rest. There's always a faint sleaziness to it, which is odd as Eastwood directed it himself. That said, the finale is one of those punch the air moments that are just plain fun.

I hope you enjoy all of the movies you watch - Dirty Harry itself is one of my all-time favourites.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 3:46 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Since I started this thread, I picked up Magnum Force. For music that is so rhythm-based, the drums are oddly buried in the mix on several tracks. What an odd creative choice. The liner notes say the album was mixed from the multi-tracks. Strange.

 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   chriss   (Member)

After the release of all the Dirty Harry scores I really hope some label will do the same for the three Dee Barton scores for Eastwood movies!

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   mattias.degerman   (Member)

Hmm, I take the opportunity to ask if anyone knows why the song from Sudden Impact, "This side of forever" doesn´t appear on the Aleph CD? As a matter of fact, I can´t find it on any Roberta Flack CD either.
The instrumental "San Francisco by night" is great stuff, but the song is really good...

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2012 - 6:32 PM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

Hmm, I take the opportunity to ask if anyone knows why the song from Sudden Impact, "This side of forever" doesn´t appear on the Aleph CD? As a matter of fact, I can´t find it on any Roberta Flack CD either.
The instrumental "San Francisco" by night is great stuff, but the song is really good...



i elieve i have seen a cd where it was or was it an LP - BUT you can find it on youtube.

 
 Posted:   Aug 29, 2012 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

So how did it work out, Onya? "Scorpio's View" is one of the best cues Lalo Schifrin ever composed.

 
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