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This is a comments thread about Blog Post: Why the Rózsa Box Sold Out at 1,500, Not 2,000 Copies by Lukas Kendall
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 10:26 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Very interesting read. Thanks for those behind-the-scenes insights.
The mention of WaterTower is also interesting. Will one of their aims be to provide collectors like us with an on-going source of classic and previously unreleased soundtrack material? In other words, will they start to cater for our more "specialist" tastes as well as the wider market?
It also begs the question... will they be drawing on your special expertise along the way?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 10:33 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

Very interesting read. Thanks for those behind-the-scenes insights.
The mention of WaterTower is also interesting. Will one of their aims be to provide collectors like us with an on-going source of classic and previously unreleased soundtrack material? In other words, will they cater for our more "specialist" tastes as well as the wider market?
It also begs the question... will they be drawing on your special expertise along the way?



Check out the credits on the back of the Ben-Hur artwork.


I checked that as soon as I read Lukas's post here and the legal verbiage is obviously different - there's even a WaterTower logo.


it's amazing something like Ben-Hur was able to come through during what sounds like a complex transition.

My question is one that nobody can answer, but when is somebody going to revisit King Of Kings?

The Rhino release is certainly solid - but it's no longer available and very expensive on the secondary market. frown

If someone wants to release the King of Kings recording from the FSM Rozsa box + the original film tracks - I would buy it. smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

So you've broken some eggs....but I'll tell you Lukas - that omelette tastes just great from where I'm sat.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 10:45 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

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 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 10:56 PM   
 By:   waterfold   (Member)

Thanks for explaining the situation, Lukas. Very informative and its good to know why the last 500 aren't being pressed. Not that it matters, but there would be one surefire order here.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 11:12 PM   
 By:   spanosdm   (Member)

My question is one that nobody can answer, but when is somebody going to revisit King Of Kings?

You know what, I was thinking about it just yesterday. Sadly I missed on the Rhino release, which is now very expensive to get on the secondary market.
Lukas has already told us no more Williamses, Goldsmiths or Morricones.
So, can we expect more Rozsas for the final releases? wink

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 11:20 PM   
 By:   Miles (MerM)   (Member)

I hope you can relicense the big-selling titles. Poltergeist and Logan's Run are incredibly well-done sets (to say nothing of the music), and they deserve to be available as long as possible.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

So, can we expect more Rozsas for the final releases? wink

An archival "Private Life Of Sherlock Holmes" please! smile (or maybe the original tapes not mixed down turned up!)

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 11:40 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Interesting breakdown of your working relationship with other companies. We owe them a lot for giving you the chance to give us what we've wanted.

This loyalty will continue to be repaid with my hard earned dollar. I promise you this.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2012 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Scott H.   (Member)

Next time I run into you Lukas, I'll buy you your favorite beverage. smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 12:06 AM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

Regardless of what happened the fact that you're being honest about this is pretty awesome.

Stuff happens and we can't control that, but that's alright. Another surprising, but awesome fact is that big companies like Warner Bros going out of there way to help see these scores released in the first place. Businesses are ran on money, sometimes you gotta do something that'll suck in order to save your money, this is one of those times.

Either way, all the releases have been pretty amazing, so thanks to all involved for that.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 2:24 AM   
 By:   ScottDS   (Member)

The mention of WaterTower is also interesting. Will one of their aims be to provide collectors like us with an on-going source of classic and previously unreleased soundtrack material? In other words, will they start to cater for our more "specialist" tastes as well as the wider market?
It also begs the question... will they be drawing on your special expertise along the way?



^I have the same question. I know we've seen the WaterTower label on the back of some recent releases (Gremlins, The Great Santini) but will they continue to make licensing deals with the specialty labels?

Great article, as always. I feel like Chevy Chase as Gerald Ford on SNL: "I was told there would be no math." smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 2:38 AM   
 By:   siriami   (Member)

Fascinating insight into the manufacture and marketing of "our kind of music", Lukas!

I have always had the utmost respect for Mr Feltenstein, Warners and Rhino: and hopefully Watertower Music will carry on the tradition of those past releases from them.

It's just a shame that the "golden age" of soundtrack collecting on CD seems to have peaked. It was always so exciting to see what Rhino/Turner CDs were about to be issued. (I must have most of their releases now!). That avenue of MGM musical soundtracks seems to have (sadly) died out these days. I would love to see more.......
Alistair

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 2:47 AM   
 By:   kossjak   (Member)

Lucas, great article, thanks!
Why not release some big titles from the box, even with 4-page booklets?

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

So who keeps the master elements (final perfected audio, artwork files) for a company like FSM?

Does it all go back to the studios and records companies (to be vaulted and forgotten again), or does FSM get-/have- to archive the material?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   tarasis   (Member)

So has everybody, but most of them won't be honest about it. I will.

I am grateful you do and for all you have done, even if I I haven't bought it all.

 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

So who keeps the master elements (final perfected audio, artwork files) for a company like FSM?

Does it all go back to the studios and records companies (to be vaulted and forgotten again), or does FSM get-/have- to archive the material?


All physical assets always go back to the studio. We keep hard drives of our work in Pro Tools, typically.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

So who keeps the master elements (final perfected audio, artwork files) for a company like FSM?

Does it all go back to the studios and records companies (to be vaulted and forgotten again), or does FSM get-/have- to archive the material?


All physical assets always go back to the studio. We keep hard drives of our work in Pro Tools, typically.

Lukas


This may be a bit of a sensitive question, so I apologize if it offends. When another company re-releases one of your disks with pretty much identical content and only very slight audio tweaks, are they using your work in Pro Tools rather than going back to the original studio master elements? Just curious.

Thanks for your honesty. It's fascinating reading.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)


My question is one that nobody can answer, but when is somebody going to revisit King Of Kings?

The Rhino release is certainly solid - but it's no longer available and very expensive on the secondary market. frown

If someone wants to release the King of Kings recording from the FSM Rozsa box + the original film tracks - I would buy it. smile


TJ, a friend of mine who knows I like soundtracks found a bunch at a library clearance sale including the Rhino King of Kings and has shipped them to me. They haven't arrived yet so I can't comment on what kind of shape they are in. I am not a massive Rozsa fan and would therefore be willing to trade this to you or sell it at a reasonable price. If you drop me a line at caavis@gmail.com, I can let you know when it arrives and what kind of shape it is in.

Cheers,

Chris.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 25, 2012 - 9:28 AM   
 By:   James Corry   (Member)

I'm 60 years old now and I've been collecting soundtracks for at least 45 years. The advent of FSM, Rhino, Intrada, MMM, Tribute, BYU, LaLa Land, Kritzerland, Varese-Sarabande and others have given to me things which, 40-odd years ago I never would have thought in my wildest dreams would ever happen.

I'm VERY grateful for what I've gotten.

J.

 
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