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 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Trailer for M. Night Shyamalan's new disaster has hit the internet. I care about this project only because Shyamalan always seems to bring out something good in Howard.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'll be shocked if this score isn't awesome.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Ugh. Will Smith.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Bigger Ugh -- Jaden Smith!

I think it'll still be better than The Last Airbender. smile I must admit I was still kinda bummed that movie bombed because we could've had some epic JNH for the sequels! Hopefully this will be equally epic.

Other than Last Airbender and maybe Lady in the Water, I don't really understand the hate for M. Night though.

My wife and I thought The Happening was incredibly disturbing and fantastic (amazing score definitely helped), though I can understand why people don't like it. I think a lot of people didn't get the humor in it though. And I can't fathom why all the hate for The Village; I thought it was superb. Also, the film he produced called Devil bears his fingerprints all over it and is really creepy and well done IMO.

Unbreakable is my favorite.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

Can't wait.

The first Las Airbender teaser had original music by J. Newton Howard already. Do you think this may be the case too ??? Haven't heard that music before.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

Bigger Ugh -- Jaden Smith!

I think it'll still be better than The Last Airbender. smile I must admit I was still kinda bummed that movie bombed because we could've had some epic JNH for the sequels! Hopefully this will be equally epic.


Well, Airbender was a critical failure but it's Shyamalan's most succesful film in box office since Signs. Loved the trailer, JNH saw the film and thinks it's amazing, Shyamalan on Twitter shows that he knows what he's doing, praised the action of the Smiths and already mentioned that JNH wrote a theme written to represent the fear of Jaden Smith's character.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   ctblass   (Member)

Night has spoken on twitter about the score being related to or having some sort of orchestral minimalist Japanese influence - whatever that means. James has also mentioned in interviews briefly that the score is small with some big, grand moments.

As for the trailer, some of the footage is worrisome, but the concept and narration are pretty damn awesome and clever.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

I'm holding out hope for this one considering Shyamalan is one of a handful of credited writers (including Stephen Gaghan). I'm sure the finished product will reflect his sensibility most among them, but perhaps their influence and ideas will dilute some of his shortcomings as a writer.

As for the trailer, a few moments sounded like JNH but were too short to identify. Anyone recognize the music?

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 2:15 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

Remember when this was called I Am Legend?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Music should be good, but I'm not quite sure what I think about the movie from that trailer. The beginning is fine, but then it becomes a bit "Disney" and LAST AIRBENDER-like.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

Other than Last Airbender and maybe Lady in the Water, I don't really understand the hate for M. Night though.

My wife and I thought The Happening was incredibly disturbing and fantastic (amazing score definitely helped), though I can understand why people don't like it. I think a lot of people didn't get the humor in it though. And I can't fathom why all the hate for The Village; I thought it was superb. Also, the film he produced called Devil bears his fingerprints all over it and is really creepy and well done IMO.

Unbreakable is my favorite.

Yavar


Got through about 20 minutes of The Last Airbender and had to turn it off. The problem I had was with the kids' performances - so wooden and lifeless. The Happening was for me M. Night's lowest point...I was actually embarrassed for him while watching it in the theatre. The set up was incredible, but the second half fell apart like no film I've ever seen IMHO.

All that being said, I'm not a Shyamalan hater. In fact I just rewatched The Village again the other night and fell in love with it all over again. Such a beautiful love story - not the horror/thriller many were thinking it was supposed to be. JN Howard should have won the Oscar for that one. And Signs is another misinterpreted film in my eyes. Yes, there is the sci-fi element, but the core of the film is about faith and family. Amazing really this is the same director of The Last Airbender because the child performances in this one are heartbreaking and ultra natural...with some memorable comedic moments. And as for Devil - love it! Bought it on bluray awhile back and find that it's eminently rewatchable. Great score too!

Looking forward to checking this new one out....as many have said, if for no other reason than to hear what Howard comes up with.

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 2:49 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

The Last Airbender grossing $100 million is one of the most puzzling things in recent years. The film was nothing more than Dragonball: Evolution 2 and Dragonball: Evolution was a huge failure. So how was Avatar: The Last Airbender any different from Dragonball Z in that people actually expected The Last Airbender to be good while everyone knew that Dragonball: Evolution was going to be a disaster?

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Mike Skerritt   (Member)

The Happening was for me M. Night's lowest point...I was actually embarrassed for him while watching it in the theatre. The set up was incredible, but the second half fell apart like no film I've ever seen IMHO.

"Be scientific, douchebag!"

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   Buscemi   (Member)

The Happening only works as a comedy. It was a laugh riot when I saw it in the theatre (along with Wahlberg's other 2008 dud, Max Payne).

 
 Posted:   Dec 10, 2012 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   yonythemoony   (Member)

The Happening was very different from Shyamalan's original script, FOX made him re-write it. It had some twists and the characters we're very different from the ones of the movie. About After Earth, Will Smith wrote the original story and it was adapted by Shyamalan and two other writers.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

This trailer looks very interesting IMO.

If the "Will Smith and Son"-backlash does not sink it Shyamalan could have another huge hit on his hands.

Shyamalan is a very good director, no doubt about it, but the way he conducted himself during interviews was probably causing the backlash even more than his last three films.

THE SIXTH SENSE, UNBREAKABLE, SIGNS and THE VILLAGE are IMO very well directed and constructed stories.

THE LADY IN THE WATER was nowhere near as bad as people (on the internet) said it was - but it felt truncated and only like one part of a bigger story. And the biggest PR blunder Shymalan ever did was casting himself as the author. He should have known that nobody loves someone who is successful behind the camera suddenly pushing himself as an actor into the limelight.

THE HAPPENING was a very interesting idea. And please, don´t tell me "Who would try to outrun the wind?". If you knew something in the wind was killing you, you would NOT stand still and say: hey, it would be absurd if I moved now. You would run. Because that is a human instinct.

Apart from that, the love story between Wahlberg and Deschanel was severely underwritten and did not work at all. And IMO both actors were terribly miscast. Imagine the film with other, really capable actors and it would be instantly better.

THE LAST AIRBENDER suffered from expectations from all the fans of the animated series. I did not watch the series and thought the film was entertaining but not really special.

What is a constant source of joy in all Shyamalan´s films, however, are James Newton Howard´s scores. Shyamalan seems to inspire him to deliver his best work.

Another reason to look forward to AFTER EARTH. Their artistic partnership really works.


 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   catboy19   (Member)

no matter how ughable it is it's got to. be better than any Tom Cruze movie

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 5:13 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Imagine the film with other, really capable actors and it would be instantly better.

The same could be said of almost any bad movie. There are very few movies so innately flawed that they couldn't have been improved by some basic adjustment at the beginning of the process: different casting, a competent director, some slight structural changes to the script, whatever.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Imagine the film with other, really capable actors and it would be instantly better.

The same could be said of almost any bad movie. There are very few movies so innately flawed that they couldn't have been improved by some basic adjustment at the beginning of the process: different casting, a competent director, some slight structural changes to the script, whatever.


True. But in the case of THE HAPPENING I really think that Wahlberg and Deschanel were completely wrong for their roles. Wahlberg never was believable as a school teacher IMO, a role that for example would have worked much better with a brainier type, say Adrian Brody. And instead of kooky Deschanel, someone like Amy Adams would have been better, IMO.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2012 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Bigger Ugh -- Jaden Smith!

I think it'll still be better than The Last Airbender. smile I must admit I was still kinda bummed that movie bombed because we could've had some epic JNH for the sequels! Hopefully this will be equally epic.

Other than Last Airbender and maybe Lady in the Water, I don't really understand the hate for M. Night though.

My wife and I thought The Happening was incredibly disturbing and fantastic (amazing score definitely helped), though I can understand why people don't like it. I think a lot of people didn't get the humor in it though. And I can't fathom why all the hate for The Village; I thought it was superb. Also, the film he produced called Devil bears his fingerprints all over it and is really creepy and well done IMO.

Unbreakable is my favorite.

Yavar


Almost completely what he said. (disagree Lady In The Water and The Last Airbender)

Plus, this actually looks not bad. I don`t want more Avatar necessarily, but we`ll see. The Smith`s don`t bother me here; maybe the clearer & more fully pronounced english, the better (?).

 
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