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 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 12:16 PM   
 By:   Doctor Shatterhand   (Member)

Does anyone here have the ROLAND SHAW THE JAMES BOND THRILLERS VOL 3 album and if so, can I get an mp3 version of "Capsule In Space" which is number 2 on the record? My email address is drshatterhand@shatterhand007.com

Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Not I. Only have the James Bond 007 Cinema Gala release from London Records, with the absolutely stunningly powerful rendition of On Her Majesty`s Secret Service...

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

ACtually, I`d love to have heard the entire OHMSS score redone by Shaw & company. That would have been an instant buy.

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Most of these Roland Shaw 007 themes have been remastered onto a 2CD set...

but unfortunately "Capsule In Space" is omitted.

http://www.amazon.com/James-Action-Themes-Secret-Agents/dp/B001IF25KE

 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   Doctor Shatterhand   (Member)

Most of these Roland Shaw 007 themes have been remastered onto a 2CD set...

but unfortunately "Capsule In Space" is omitted.

http://www.amazon.com/James-Action-Themes-Secret-Agents/dp/B001IF25KE



Yeah, I know but they excluded the one piece I really wanted to hear. So I'm hoping someone has this in their collection.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2013 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

As a connoisseur of spy knock-off albums, I of course have this LP. I sometimes like the knockoffs more than the originals! I will give this track a spin tonight along with the Barry track. I have not digitized any vinyl for a while so I'll have to make sure everything is still wired the same way.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 5:17 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

As I suspected, my LP-CD unit is no longer working. frown

For what it's worth, I spun both the Barry and Shaw versions back-to-back twice. Shaw's version is very similar in terms of content, orchestration, bar count, etc. but it does not unfold or build with the sense of drama or mystery that you hear in the Barry. The lack of crescendo may in part be blamed on Decca/London's fondness for compression and limiting, which were likely liberally employed here, at least on the pressing that I have.

Hope this is helpful until you can get your paws on the genuine article.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 5:40 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

We need a proper Rolan Shaw James Bond compilation.

The one pictured above is great, but we really need one that brings it all out.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   Other Tallguy   (Member)

The cover of More James Bond Thrillers is literally one of the first things I remember. Ever. Goldfinger, From Russia with Love and Doctor No.

That probably explains more than I want it to.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


http://www.amazon.com/James-Action-Themes-Secret-Agents/dp/B001IF25KE


Really love this album. Just wish it was remastered. The sound quality is atrocious. An LP rip would probably sound better than this CD.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   Doctor Shatterhand   (Member)

I read your post last night and had my hopes up too high. Thanks for trying.

As I suspected, my LP-CD unit is no longer working. frown

For what it's worth, I spun both the Barry and Shaw versions back-to-back twice. Shaw's version is very similar in terms of content, orchestration, bar count, etc. but it does not unfold or build with the sense of drama or mystery that you hear in the Barry. The lack of crescendo may in part be blamed on Decca/London's fondness for compression and limiting, which were likely liberally employed here, at least on the pressing that I have.

Hope this is helpful until you can get your paws on the genuine article.

 
 Posted:   Jul 23, 2013 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Doctor Shatterhand   (Member)


http://www.amazon.com/James-Action-Themes-Secret-Agents/dp/B001IF25KE


Really love this album. Just wish it was remastered. The sound quality is atrocious. An LP rip would probably sound better than this CD.


My original LP version sounded over-modulated as well but I can't complain with the 2 CD version released a few years ago since the original tapes were probably rotting away in someone's closet. Still it would have been nice to include the Capsule in Space, Spectre Island, Guitar Lament, Death of Goldfinger, and Tania Meets Klebb.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2013 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   AndrewH   (Member)

Roland Shaw's "The World of James Bond Adventure' (TWOJBA) was my first LP and my introduction to John Barry music on albums.

This had tunes up to You Only Live Twice. Tantalizingly it didn't have OHMSS, which was the only Bond film I hadn't seen up to that point.

Hard for people to realize now but back in the seventies, original Bond soundtracks were very difficult to come by and often very expensive so most of us had to make do with Bond cover compliation albums.

The most common one seemed to be Geoff Love's Bond Themes but I didn't acquire that till later. But I think Roland Shaw's is far superior.

I particularly like his version of the 007 theme which was the last track on TWOJBA.

I wish I had it now as I loved the slow build up and the blasting brass towards the end. I last owned it on a tape cassette which I've long since lost.

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2013 - 5:25 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Does anyone here have the ROLAND SHAW THE JAMES BOND THRILLERS VOL 3 album and if so, can I get an mp3 version of "Capsule In Space" which is number 2 on the record?

If I recall correctly, there were altogether eight Bond cues, including "Capsule in Space," that were left off the CD releases. The latest CD producers (the Cherry label) said they contacted UMG and asked what was available for a Roland Shaw CD. The resulting list of available Bond tapes from UMG is what made it onto the CD. No one seems to know what happened to the eight missing cues.

I'm locked out of my personal email here at work, but I will contact you by Friday 7/25 at the latest. My schedule keeps me off my home computer for certain intervals. Don't worry, the news is good.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   Chris1770   (Member)


http://www.amazon.com/James-Action-Themes-Secret-Agents/dp/B001IF25KE


Really love this album. Just wish it was remastered. The sound quality is atrocious. An LP rip would probably sound better than this CD.


My original LP version sounded over-modulated as well but I can't complain with the 2 CD version released a few years ago since the original tapes were probably rotting away in someone's closet. Still it would have been nice to include the Capsule in Space, Spectre Island, Guitar Lament, Death of Goldfinger, and Tania Meets Klebb.



The source of the 2 CD set is an LP rip actually as stated in the fine print in the booklet. It was one of my most disappointing soundtrack purchases in some time that I've made.

The sound of this release is really not good. If you compare the tracks with the Deram CD released of the 90's you will find that Deram must have had access to the original tapes as far as I can tell. It is still the superior release.

Further more, the tracks on the 2 CD set are not well assembled either.

My humble advice to all, stay away from this set.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The source of the 2 CD set is an LP rip actually as stated in the fine print in the booklet. It was one of my most disappointing soundtrack purchases in some time that I've made.

The sound of this release is really not good. If you compare the tracks with the Deram CD released of the 90's you will find that Deram must have had access to the original tapes as far as I can tell. It is still the superior release.



The Cherry 2-disc set was mastered from an LP? I don't see that in the booklet. Where do you see that?

I've always been happy with the Deram release:

The odd cover photo is actually part of a publicity still from CASINO ROYALE.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 7:50 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

The only thing I can see is the sentence "Little wonder that, in recent times, the vinyl albums from which these tracks stem have been fetching fees in excess of fifty pounds..." (paragraph near the end of page 7 of the booklet).

It may be awkward wording, but it does sort of suggest a vinyl source. I agree with other comments - the sound is very harsh. I'm sure I had another Roland Shaw Bond CD with similar sound. Virtually unlistenable anyway, and such a shame.

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 7:56 AM   
 By:   Chris1770   (Member)

The only thing I can see is the sentence "Little wonder that, in recent times, the vinyl albums from which these tracks stem have been fetching fees in excess of fifty pounds..." (paragraph near the end of page 7 of the booklet).

It may be awkward wording, but it does sort of suggest a vinyl source. I agree with other comments - the sound is very harsh. I'm sure I had another Roland Shaw Bond CD with similar sound. Virtually unlistenable anyway, and such a shame.




Yes, that is exactly the "wording" - you have to read it twice to get behind its deceptive meaning, and it is the only hint you will find on the sources they used.

Why does UMG licence garbage releases like that?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)


Yes, that is exactly the "wording" - you have to read it twice to get behind its deceptive meaning, and it is the only hint you will find on the sources they used.

Why does UMG licence garbage releases like that?



Saying that, I've heard a few CDs which have used vinyl as their source and none sound as bad as this one, so I presume something else went wrong (or just wasn't done properly).

As for using vinyl in the first place...surely the masters haven't been lost?

 
 Posted:   Jul 25, 2013 - 10:16 AM   
 By:   arbogast 2007   (Member)

The 2 CD set (on Poker/Cherry Red) is a horrible release. I communicated with the company soon after the set was released and the producer or compiler kindly responded and, IIRC, wrote that they had to rely on vinyl sources for at least some of the tracks. But that isn't the worst problem with this release. The harshness comes from the mastering decisions: they decided to compress the life out of these tracks. Maybe they thought this approach would cover up the source deficiencies. It didn't work. I can't listen to this release without my ears aching...and that's at relatively low volume. If you know anything about the 'Loudness War', this is a horrible example of maximized mastering at its worst. The fellow from the company wrote that he liked how it sounded. Poor bugger must be deaf!
 
The other problem is that, in their continuing wisdom, the compilers decided to edit some of the tracks, apparently to avoid repetition. I don't have the set in front of me, but I remember "Kingston Calypso" being one of the worst examples: they lopped off the opening "James Bond Theme" portion!
 
Avoid at all costs!
 
I'm hoping that a company like Vocalion can revisit the Roland Shaw Bond / Secret Agent tracks, get the correct masters and give the sound the proper treatment it deserves. Based on the releases I have heard to date, they do an excellent job. If you like Bond covers, try their Si Zentner "From Russia With Love" CD (paired with "Warning Shot"). Si and his big band cover "The James Bond Theme," "From Russia With Love" and the "007 Theme." Great stuff!

 
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