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 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Bill Finn   (Member)

It occurred to me that several composers of film scores that I first
enjoyed, seem to have disappeared from the field.

In my case, I am talking about the late 1950's to early 1960's. I kind
of know the answers, in part, but the two composers that easily come to
my mind are Malcolm Arnold (I do know that he went on to write symphonies, etc.)
and Quincy Jones.

They were both VERY popular in films at that time, but seem to have completely
disappeared from film work by the mid-1960's. Jones was so well-liked that he had
a 10 minute segment in the old BMI video that many of us are familiar with (the one
that shows Goldsmith conducting "THE MEPHISTO WALTZ").

I particularly liked their music, especially "THE PAWNBROKER" and "MIRAGE" by Jones.

I am happy that Mr. Stromberg and Mr. Morgan recorded a CD of Arnold's music. But
where are the originals? And there are probably other composers, that we don't read
(or hear) about nowadays?

Did Arnold and/or Jones both have a different career in mind all along? They created some
excellent work for films I thought.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 5:50 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Bruce Broughton, toiling away in made-for-TV Hell since 1998. frown

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

From what I read QUINCY JONES didn't care too much for the art of film music.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

Don Davis

I know he's doing opera stuff but I do miss him from the film score community. He did a kick ass job for The Matrix Trilogy and other scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 7:21 PM   
 By:   Marlene   (Member)

Don Davis

I know he's doing opera stuff but I do miss him from the film score community. He did a kick ass job for The Matrix Trilogy and other scores.


Miss him too.

And Elliot Goldenthal. He only doing theater, classical and opera now?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

Bruce Broughton, toiling away in made-for-TV Hell since 1998. frown

Yea, too bad indeed.

We also hardly ever hear from Trevor Jones or John Scott, though both of them have released a new score here or there sporadically over the past decade.

Another major disappointment is Richard Band, who hasn't written a good score in well over 20 years.

Let's not get started on Bill Conti...

Let's hope the next generation of composers on have good stuff to offer!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

FRANCIS LAI seemed to have left for the most part at a early age. Although he did give us alot before he left the scene.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 12:32 AM   
 By:   ian642002   (Member)

Arthur P. Rubinstein came up with War Games and Blue Thunder then - pffft! - he was gone.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

I never hear from any of the film composers anymore. They never call. They never write. Comes a Saturday night I hear nothing....

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 12:55 AM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

I never hear from any of the film composers anymore. They never call. They never write. Comes a Saturday night I hear nothing....


big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 1:09 AM   
 By:   stay-puft   (Member)

Trevor Jones
Elliot Goldenthal
John Corigliano

what's with Philip Glass?

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 1:20 AM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

Laurence Rosenthal
Dave Grusin

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

Did Arnold and/or Jones both have a different career in mind all along? They created some
excellent work for films I thought.


Firstly, Arnold's been dead since 2006, so chances for new film scores are very slim indeed.

Arnold had to face major personal problems all his life. He'd always been a difficult person (brazen alcoholic, physically and psychologically abusive of his wives, fornicating with everyone in view, battling the BBC under William "Le Terreur" Glock over commissions, cursing everyone around him when he saw fit). In the second half of the 1960s these problems spiralled out of control, resulting in several suicide attempts, many stays in psychiatric wards, including electro shock treatments which temporarily destroyed his composer abilities, a divorce, critics who were systematically thrashing his works, more alcohol, etc). By the late 1960s he was no longer able to just churn out the melodies for film scores at the rate he used to, and as he was very unpredictable both personally and professionally, film producers could no longer deal with him when being faced with deadlines.

Arnold continued to write concert works, but not as many as before, and by the early 1990s his talent was virtually gone, so his publishers finally refused to commission new works from him.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 1:33 AM   
 By:   OnlyGoodMusic   (Member)

As for the rest -

BRUCE BROUGHTON - very sad indeed. Thank you, Hans Zimmer!

QUINCY JONES - too old and too rich to care for the pressures of film music

DON DAVIS - yes, weird. With the buzz from The Matrix movies he seemed dead set on a long and successful career

ELLIOT GOLDENTHAL - let's not forget he has always been first and foremost a concert composer. Same goes for his teacher, John Corigliano.

BILL CONTI - I think the negative buzz on all of his "homages" to other composers might have had an impact on his later carerr

FRANCIS LAI - thank God. Don't miss this master of muzak.

ARTHUR B. RUBINSTEIN - I think he's very happy conducting classical concerts, e.g. with his Symphony in the Glen - http://www.symphonyintheglen.org/

JOHN SCOTT - I wish I'd be as productive and agile at 82. He's been doing some silent movie scores in recent years, and enjoys conducting.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 1:36 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Goldenthal still does film scores now and then, but rarely.

Andre Previn disappeared from film music altogether at one point, for known reasons.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   pzfan   (Member)

Has Goldenthal fully recovered from his accident?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 1:55 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

No, not quite. He doesn't admit it, but I've clearly seen signs of it every time I've met him over the last three years. At least he's working steadily -- if slowly -- with various projects, both film and otherwise.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 2:04 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Trevor Jones
Elliot Goldenthal
John Corigliano

what's with Philip Glass?


Glass scored things all the time. His IMDb filmography isn't always kept to date, but it's mostly complete.

Broughton scored one film in 2011, "Dough Boy".

I get the impression Corigliano can take it or leave it and isn't actively pursuing scoring. He's only had tow film scores, a third rejected, and passed on about nearly a dozen over the years, to concentrate on other things.


It's a shame David Shire doesn't get more work. In mid 2009 when I asked him in an interview about scoring projects, he said:

"Unfortunately no film work on the worktable at present, but I'm super busy and happily so with my theatre projects. I'd love to do some more films, my agent keeps submitting me, and we'll see. I can't imagine ever voluntarily retiring. I enjoy it too much."

There was another interview somewhere around that year where he said he was wanting work, but the phone just doesn't ring.
Hollywood is too busy hiring Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross, and Ramin Djawadi, apparently.



There's some talented people who've mostly worked in film that have also fallen to the way side, that I'd love to hear mroe from and getting bigger, better projects, including:

Velton Ray Bunch
Dennis McCarthy
David Bell
Jay Chattaway
Stephen Graziano
Nan Schwartz
Jan Hammer (seems he could easily make a comeback with the type of scoring some films are getting these days)
Don Peake
Stu Phillips
and many more I'm not remembering the names of at the moment.

 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 2:17 AM   
 By:   Untamed Aggression   (Member)

Another major disappointment is Richard Band, who hasn't written a good score in well over 20 years.

I seem to recall reading somewhere that he voluntarily moved away from film scores as he got sick of the process and prefers TV and commercials now.

I have no idea where I saw this.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 31, 2013 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

I miss Francis Lai.

 
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