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 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Which episodes of LOST IN SPACE got their own scores, especially in the first season whose music had the greatest sense of magic and wonder?

First seasons episodes on CD:
- The Reluctant Stowaway
- The Derelict
- Island in the Sky
- There Were Giants in the Earth
- The Hungry Sea
- My Friend, Mr. Nobody
- Welcome Stranger

Are there any others?

I just watched "The Sky is Falling," on MeTV, the one where an alien couple and their son, all mute, arrive and feel threatened by the Robinsons. There's a gorgeous, melancholy theme played every time the little alien boy is on (five times). The episode makes extensive use of cues from other LIS scores and does not list its own composer, so it plays like a tracked show.

At first I thought the little alien boy theme was a partial score for "Falling," or maybe it was library music written for the first season. It's not on the 40th Anniversary CD. But I found the cue in the full-length version of "My Friend, Mr. Nobody" (GNP, Lost in Space Volume 3, track 15).

"Mr. Nobody" is so jam-packed with unique magical moments, I'd forgotten that part for spending so much time with the 40th Anniversary CD. This is a theme that any other series would have been lucky to build an episode around, but with John Williams it was just a few moments in "Mr. Nobody," lost among other riches. You really need the full score to appreciate what an achievement it is.

I was glad to discover that I had the theme I wanted on CD, clean and complete-- after wasting two hours editing the sound clips I'd patch-corded off my DVR. It wasn't great: I had to take a wicked hiss, plus Will Robinson loudly plinking away at rock formations with his geology hammer, and lots of talking.

But the question remains, what notable LIS scores are we missing?

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 8:42 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Funny you should start this thread. I'm currently watching LIS on MeTV as well. I was wondering about the episode where Will is transported back to Earth. It's winter time and he finds himself in some quaint little town. The music didn't sound like it was recorded for LIS. I assume it was tracked from another television show, or perhaps a film?

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 9:06 PM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)

Some additional discussion here:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=83475&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2013 - 11:58 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

My favorites by far were the two "The Keeper" episodes, with Michael Rennie, and Dr. Smith in his best form.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

It's been so, so, so long since I watched that show, but all that music was indelibly stamped onto my subconscious. When I first got the three volume series, most of the music came right back to me. I didn't care for the season 2 album, but I liked discs 1 & 3, with the first season music, very much. Virtually all the music that I remembered was on them. The rest of the music that I'd really remembered was spread over a few Bernard Herrmann scores.

I thought the 40th anniversary set was a missed opportunity. Most of disc 1 was already on the earlier series; disc 2 had too much goofy music for my taste.

So the short of it is, for me, most of the memorable music is available. I would still buy more volumes, though, if they concentrated on better scores that were not previously available.

I should add that I think the Lost in Space music is among the best of John Williams's career.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

The episode where Will goes back to earth was tracked from an earlier Fox movie score by Cyril Mockridge I believe--and I'm blanking on the film unfortunately. But I'm sure there is more LIS music that hasn't been put out--the "Space Junk Man" score for the last episode by Mullendore for one. And I'm pretty sure the straight, mock classical-style theme for Dr. Smith hasn't been on any of the releases.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:40 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

It's been so, so, so long since I watched that show, but all that music was indelibly stamped onto my subconscious. When I first got the three volume series, most of the music came right back to me. I didn't care for the season 2 album, but I liked discs 1 & 3, with the first season music, very much. Virtually all the music that I remembered was on them. The rest of the music that I'd really remembered was spread over a few Bernard Herrmann scores.

I thought the 40th anniversary set was a missed opportunity. Most of disc 1 was already on the earlier series; disc 2 had too much goofy music for my taste.

So the short of it is, for me, most of the memorable music is available. I would still buy more volumes, though, if they concentrated on better scores that were not previously available.

I should add that I think the Lost in Space music is among the best of John Williams's career.



Our taste and experience match up pretty well.

I just searched for Lost in Space music on eBay and found that GNP Vol 1 and 2 are very affordable, but there's only one Volume 3 at present, and the buy it now button is $95. The 40th Anniversary set is $70. I'm very glad I got them when the getting was good. At these prices, I'd have to bide my time and wait for better offers.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Thanks for the reply Mr. Bond. smile BTW, Lost In Space Main TItle - Season Three is perhaps my all time favorite television theme. (and there are many great themes) Seems it's style was mimicked quite a bit in other television themes from the 70's, though I can't name any at the moment.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:44 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

The episode where Will goes back to earth was tracked from an earlier Fox movie score by Cyril Mockridge I believe--and I'm blanking on the film unfortunately. But I'm sure there is more LIS music that hasn't been put out--the "Space Junk Man" score for the last episode by Mullendore for one. And I'm pretty sure the straight, mock classical-style theme for Dr. Smith hasn't been on any of the releases.


So Jeff, you'd agree that we've already got the gold from Year 1, excepting the cues borrowed from movies (most notably the Herrmann material)?

If possible, can you recall a specific scene scored with the Smith theme you're thinking of?

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   stroppy   (Member)

! agree wholeheartedly with all the opinions and sentiments expressed here. What concerns me is that no one has interviewed JW in depth about his work for LIS. And they better hurry. He's not a young bloke any more.

Wouldn't you love seeing him conduct his old LIS scores live... The fact this has never happened gives me a Smith moment...Oh the pain, the pain!

Imagine what he could have done for TOS.....or a TOS movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Thanks for the reply Mr. Bond. smile BTW, Lost In Space Main TItle - Season Three is perhaps my all time favorite television theme. (and there are many great themes) Seems it's style was mimicked quite a bit in other television themes from the 70's, though I can't name any at the moment.

I like the season 3 theme on its own terms, but as an outer space theme, I don't like it at all. The first theme sounds like outer space, and combined with the visuals, it is perfect. Probably the best thing about the show, next to the robot. wink

The third season theme could have just as easily been used for a cop show, a spy show, or virtually any TV drama. So I consider it a bad move.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Thanks for the reply Mr. Bond. smile BTW, Lost In Space Main TItle - Season Three is perhaps my all time favorite television theme. (and there are many great themes) Seems it's style was mimicked quite a bit in other television themes from the 70's, though I can't name any at the moment.

I like the season 3 theme on its own terms, but as an outer space theme, I don't like it at all. The first theme sounds like outer space, and combined with the visuals, it is perfect. Probably the best thing about the show, next to the robot. wink

The third season theme could have just as easily been used for a cop show, a spy show, or virtually any TV drama. So I consider it a bad move.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 9:04 AM   
 By:   tex1272   (Member)

My favorite score is the last one "Junyard in Space."

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Thanks for the reply Mr. Bond. smile BTW, Lost In Space Main TItle - Season Three is perhaps my all time favorite television theme. (and there are many great themes) Seems it's style was mimicked quite a bit in other television themes from the 70's, though I can't name any at the moment.

I like the season 3 theme on its own terms, but as an outer space theme, I don't like it at all. The first theme sounds like outer space, and combined with the visuals, it is perfect. Probably the best thing about the show, next to the robot. wink

The third season theme could have just as easily been used for a cop show, a spy show, or virtually any TV drama. So I consider it a bad move.


I always loved the countdown! And the theme is so incredibly energetic. But I do agree with you it's not necessarily a good "Sci Fi" theme. It does sound like a cop or drama theme which is why I believe it was mimicked in the 70's.

OT: Regarding the first themes visuals I always loved the subtle bit of humor where the animated Penny shoves Will down and out of sight when Angela Cartwright's credits pop on the screen.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Yeah, that countdown is pretty badass, now that you mention it.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)

The episode where Will goes back to earth was tracked from an earlier Fox movie score by Cyril Mockridge I believe--and I'm blanking on the film unfortunately. But I'm sure there is more LIS music that hasn't been put out--the "Space Junk Man" score for the last episode by Mullendore for one. And I'm pretty sure the straight, mock classical-style theme for Dr. Smith hasn't been on any of the releases.

I wondered if that last episode Mullendore score was the major unreleased original score for the series. But I also wondered how much of it was actually written for that episode.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   Krakatoa   (Member)


I should add that I think the Lost in Space music is among the best of John Williams's career.


When the Irwin Allen CD box set came out I recall the FSM Review mentioned that it was only "Lost in Space" nostalgia buffs who could really appreciate the Johnny Williams LIS cues.

Glad to read since then how many of us think that the Johnny Williams "Lost in Space" cues are really excellent in all respects.

They certainly amounted to most of the signature series cues and were versatile enough to work well on umpteenth numbers of shows!

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I would have to go back and rewatch all the shows in some kind of order to figure it out but I'm pretty sure there are still some major cues missing. And I can't say which episodes used the Smith theme I'm talking about, but I would say if you watch the color episodes, they probably use it in most of the tracked shows at least once. I was rewatching "The Anti-Matter Man" recently and it seemed there was a cue in there when they were showing the dimensional doorway generator or whatever it was, and there was a major Williams suspense cue there that I don't remember being on the set--the 40th anniversary set did add some important things for me though. And I may be misremembering and maybe all the Williams stuff has been released but it seems to me there's more. That's about as vague as I can get for today... smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 2:19 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

Funny you should start this thread. I'm currently watching LIS on MeTV as well. I was wondering about the episode where Will is transported back to Earth. It's winter time and he finds himself in some quaint little town. The music didn't sound like it was recorded for LIS. I assume it was tracked from another television show, or perhaps a film?

The episode was titled "Return From Outer Space" and was broadcast around Christmas 1965 (making it the only Christmas episode of the series).

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2013 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Funny you should start this thread. I'm currently watching LIS on MeTV as well. I was wondering about the episode where Will is transported back to Earth. It's winter time and he finds himself in some quaint little town. The music didn't sound like it was recorded for LIS. I assume it was tracked from another television show, or perhaps a film?

The episode was titled "Return From Outer Space" and was broadcast around Christmas 1965 (making it the only Christmas episode of the series).


Interesting thxs! I missed that episode by 2 months. wink

 
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