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 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   leslie   (Member)

Can anyone cofirm if the complete Tiomkin score currently available as an itunes download is a legitimate release ?

 
 Posted:   Sep 28, 2013 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I don't see any complete score listed on iTunes. Do you have a link?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

I don't know how to do a link but a search finds it easy enough. It's a total mishmash. The first four tracks are from the Bernstein Filmmusic Collection recording. The remaining tracks are the OST but from the music and effects tracks.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   leslie   (Member)

I don't see any complete score listed on iTunes. Do you have a link?

Many thanks for your response.

I should, perhaps, explain that I am based in the UK and so I found the download on the UK itunes ( www.apple.com/uk/itunes ) as one of the albums by Tiomkin available for downloading ( price : £7.99 ie British pounds sterling ).

The album is one of the Classic Soundtrack Collector series and has 19 unnamed tracks, each one simply labelled Orchestral Suite .

I hope this is helpful!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 4:08 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

There is a good chance that before years end the score for this film will be released on CD by a famous record label. I have no insider information, but I do know that 2 and possibly 3 Tiomkin titles are promised from Lalaland.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 29, 2013 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   filmo   (Member)

I just want to know how much more material would be contained in a complete score as compared to the music from the Bernstein collection. thank you.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 2:58 AM   
 By:   leslie   (Member)

I don't know how to do a link but a search finds it easy enough. It's a total mishmash. The first four tracks are from the Bernstein Filmmusic Collection recording. The remaining tracks are the OST but from the music and effects tracks.

Thank you for your response, Doug. I have in fact now downloaded the album and it is exactly as you describe and predominently one of archival/ historical interest. While I have not had time to check the OST tracks against my DVD copy of the film and verify this, my first thoughts were that the OST 'music- effects' tracks had been lifted directly from the full soundtrack, given that some tracks end very abruptly - and almost in mid-bar - ie possibly just before the entry of dialogue!

Given the release of its Wallis stablemate, Last Train from Gun Hill, I had anticipated that we would by this time have fully legitimate issue oF OK Corral, unless Gun Hill did not sell as hoped. Some years ago now, the owner of a celebrated Birmingham soundtrack emporium told me that he had ordered large quantities of the unofficail High and the Mighty cd in antipation of healthy sales and, contrary to expectations, his stock had scarcely moved.

At least in the meantime, we have Bernstein's fine recording plus the excellent shorter suite by Kunzel ( along with Frankie Laine ) on the Roundup cd.

Regards

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 3:49 AM   
 By:   leslie   (Member)

There is a good chance that before years end the score for this film will be released on CD by a famous record label. I have no insider information, but I do know that 2 and possibly 3 Tiomkin titles are promised from Lalaland.

Excellent news

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   leslie   (Member)

I just want to know how much more material would be contained in a complete score as compared to the music from the Bernstein collection. thank you.

There is no doubt that the Bernstein re-recording is a fine precis of he score and the edited version on the Kunzel version has the advantage of vocals by Frankie Laine.

If, however, you want the complete scoe, my advice would be to wait for a fully official release as now seems an imminent possibility

 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


There is no doubt that the Bernstein re-recording is a fine precis of he score



I'd say the Bernstein re-recording is worthless, disfigured as it is by karaoke-standard singing.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)


Two problems here.
There are NO scoring sessions left for this film.
I listened to a few cues that were left back in 1991.
Awful sounding. Very few actual cues left and that ones that were were practically unplayable.
I heard the other problem was getting rights to the vocals as those are owned by Sony.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 12:10 PM   
 By:   Jameson281   (Member)


There is no doubt that the Bernstein re-recording is a fine precis of he score



I'd say the Bernstein re-recording is worthless, disfigured as it is by karaoke-standard singing.


I wouldn't go so far as to call it worthless, but it's disappointing. The pace is a bit sluggish, and there's no chorus backing up the soloist . So a release of the original tracks would be very welcome.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 1:52 PM   
 By:   filmo   (Member)

i'm pretty sure that one of the upcoming soundtracks will be a complete Giant as mv hinted a while ago that anything is possible in regards to that score. as for the other possible scores, I would like to see a a complete Night Passage and Tension At Table Rock and i'm also guessing that Wild Is The Wind, Adventures Of Hajji Baba and Strange Lady In Town could be included in the mix. anybody else hazard a guess as to what the upcoming scores will be?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)


There are NO scoring sessions left for this film.
I listened to a few cues that were left back in 1991.
Awful sounding. Very few actual cues left and that ones that were were practically unplayable.


I'm not surprised to read this, otherwise it would surely have been released by now.

 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

anybody else hazard a guess as to what the upcoming scores will be?


Old Man and the Sea?
Rio Bravo?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 3:14 PM   
 By:   Melvin Stephens   (Member)

Two problems here.
There are NO scoring sessions left for this film.
I listened to a few cues that were left back in 1991.
Awful sounding. Very few actual cues left and that ones that were were practically unplayable.
I heard the other problem was getting rights to the vocals as those are owned by Sony.

Damn Joe, really did not want to hear that...could be mistaken here (which is nothing new with me), but I thought the session tapes were fine and available??? From past post, this is what I believe was indicated...

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

i'm pretty sure that one of the upcoming soundtracks will be a complete Giant as mv hinted a while ago that anything is possible in regards to that score. as for the other possible scores, I would like to see a a complete Night Passage and Tension At Table Rock and i'm also guessing that Wild Is The Wind, Adventures Of Hajji Baba and Strange Lady In Town could be included in the mix. anybody else hazard a guess as to what the upcoming scores will be?

I too believe that a complete Giant is coming(no inside info here). Have doubts about the other titles/

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

MV could tell us if we are waiting in vain for what some on this thread are saying is an impossibility,THE GUNFIGHT AT THE OK CORRAL.

 
 Posted:   Sep 30, 2013 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Fingers crossed one of the Tiomkin releases isn't wasted on Circus World.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 1, 2013 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Yes, CIRCUS WORLD would be a terrible disappointment.

 
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