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 Posted:   Mar 26, 2013 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   bewlay   (Member)

I seem to recall reading that there may be up to 30 titles by Piccioni in the pipelines of Italian labels. Not sure how many will surface on Beat, but I think there's a goal to release a lot of Piccioni music during 2013.

I love how this thread keeps resurfacing!

I'm eagerly awaiting my copy of L'Attico this month.

If there are upwards of 30 titles to be released this year, there is going to be a lot to talk about....anyone know if the Easy Tempo releases (Il Dio Sotto La Pelle, Camille 2000,etc) will be re-released? Or Lucky Luciano, which as far as I know was only released on a Japanese label in the 90s.

Regarding the Fatevi Vivi score, I'd give it an 8.5/10.

wayoutwest described the feel of the score perfectly - an unrelenting, urban score with a cool under current.

I'm always surprised how varied Piccioni's scores can be. Even in familiar genres, he manages to infuse them with something unique & unpredictable.

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2013 - 2:06 AM   
 By:   wayoutwest   (Member)

Some great posts from Tonerow on the flip side and a beautiful lady waiting to greet you at the entrance. wink

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=91983&forumID=7&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Mar 27, 2013 - 4:24 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Found a used copy of this one today


Uh oh - Ken G is truly hooked on Piero's music - he's now searching for out of print discs!

Is THE TENTH VICTIM (1965) currently the earliest Piccioni title you have? Or have you gotten any pre-'64 Piero?

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

No recommendations for Appassionata?

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 1:17 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

No recommendations for Appassionata?

Not from me.

Perhaps other members could write on how they feel about APPASSIONATA.

Overall, I'm not keen on the "erotica" lounge category, which I feel is only slightly better than travelogue "exotica".
I much prefer music scores with dramatic content.

Personally, I would rank APPASSIONATA with a "2" on a scale of 1 to 8.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 3:20 AM   
 By:   Ken G   (Member)

Found a used copy of this one today


Uh oh - Ken G is truly hooked on Piero's music - he's now searching for out of print discs!

Is THE TENTH VICTIM (1965) currently the earliest Piccioni title you have? Or have you gotten any pre-'64 Piero?


embarrassment
Well, it was reasonably priced...
...OK, OK, I'm hooked!


Yes, this now becomes the earliest I have. Working my way gradually backwards...






 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 3:28 AM   
 By:   Ken G   (Member)

No recommendations for Appassionata?

Not from me.

Perhaps other members could write on how they feel about APPASSIONATA.

Overall, I'm not keen on the "erotica" lounge category, which I feel is only slightly better than travelogue "exotica".
I much prefer music scores with dramatic content.

Personally, I would rank APPASSIONATA with a "2" on a scale of 1 to 8.





I ordered the APPASSIONATA set 2 weeks ago as part of an SAE order*, but it hasn't arrived yet.
I'm a big fan of "erotica lounge" sounds and music with groove, rather than drama.
I think this explains my hesitancy with going too far back with Piero...

...for now!




* Also included in the order: IL POLIZIOTTO DELLA BRIGATA CRIMINALE, THE WILD BUNCH, BLACK SABBATH, A CIASCUNO IL SUO / LA POLIZIA E' AL SERVIZIO DEL CITTADINO?

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 4:39 AM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Perhaps FATEVI VIVI LA POLIZIA NON INTERVERRA where I might head. Along with MORE THAN A MIRACLE and L'ATTICO.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 4:48 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

music with groove

I'm curious about this statement, Ken G.

I am thinking that this criteria is an overall aesthetic of yours, and applies to all composers not only Piero Piccioni.

If so, then at what point during the time line do you consider groove to have started (and ended)?

Do you feel that 1964 was a watershed year (with The Beatles and Bond's GOLDFINGER) after which film scores veered away from the customary symphonic approach to aspire to be pop-music happenings?

Does this mean that your musical tastes don't lean towards historical epics from the 1950s or "old school" Westerns or even '50s monster movies?

Yet, you love Piero's LO STRANIERO & IL MONACA & his cloistered nuns from 1973, which are non-groove / dramatic Piccioni music ... unless you DO consider these to have groove in some way ...

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 5:21 AM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Hi, ajhfsm.

Let me try to be more descriptive with APPASSIONATA.

The musical content is basically this: Italian-style waltzes performed on electric organ, piano solos, comedic effects on the Moog, with some early disco.
Whether you will love all this or not depends on your personal tastes.

Piccioni's 1969 SCACCO ALLA REGINA, on the other hand, is primo lounge music at its most beguiling: bossa-nova beats, seductive serpentine melodies with wordless female vocalise, overall lush erotica, with some trippy scat, too. If you don't aleady have SCACCO ALLA REGINA, I recommend this way ahead of APPASSIONATA.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   Ken G   (Member)

music with groove

I'm curious about this statement, Ken G.

I am thinking that this criteria is an overall aesthetic of yours, and applies to all composers not only Piero Piccioni.

If so, then at what point during the time line do you consider groove to have started (and ended)?

Do you feel that 1964 was a watershed year (with The Beatles and Bond's GOLDFINGER) after which film scores veered away from the customary symphonic approach to aspire to be pop-music happenings?

Does this mean that your musical tastes don't lean towards historical epics from the 1950s or "old school" Westerns or even '50s monster movies?

Yet, you love Piero's LO STRANIERO & IL MONACA & his cloistered nuns from 1973, which are non-groove / dramatic Piccioni music ... unless you DO consider these to have groove in some way ...


Interesting comments and questions, ToneRow. Let me try to clarify/answer.

Firstly, you're absolutely right when you surmise that "groove" is important to me. I think I mentioned before on these boards that I came to film music only in the past few years. Soul (southern) and jazz (early 60s-early 70s) are my first loves, but I'm also a fan of funk, rock, pop, gospel, country, folk etc. and have a pretty extensive collection which includes these genres. I don't, however, own any classical music.

I'm really not qualified to say when the "groove timeline" started/ended in film music. There are far more knowledgeable posters here than me who can answer that! I really don't know - I haven't heard enough to comment (my film music collection is only about 250-300 titles - maybe about 5% of the music I own). I'd be very interested to hear what others think regarding the timeline!

I have been gradually listening to - and liking/loving - "historical epics" and "old school" westerns. For example, I have things like "The Big Country" and "Ben-Hur" in my small collection of film music, as well as the the non-groove Piero titles you mentioned. I'm also a big fan of things like "Lady in a Cage", "Wait Until Dark", "Rosemary's Baby", "THX1138" and "The Illustrated Man" to give just a few examples of non-groove based music I've gotten into in the past couple of years. So although "groove" is important to me, as I get older, my tastes are broadening and I'm more open to these different sounds. I guess this happens to most of us to some extent.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 2:09 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

Glad that you are liking some non-groove soundtracks, Ken G.

I read a little about the term "groove" in Wikipedia today, and it appears to have its origins in 1950s jazz from jazzers who, in the decade prior, put the "swing" in the 1940s!

Also interesting is the connection between common-practice groove and African Americans.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Finally I managed to settle on FATEVI VIVI LA POLIZIA NON INTERVERRA, IL MONACO and SCACCO ALLA REGINA (COMPLETE) by Maestro Piccioni.

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2013 - 5:29 AM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

What could "Beat Music" be? 1970's, something like groove?

And how "shake" works? A dance?

 
 Posted:   Apr 1, 2013 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

What could "Beat Music" be? 1970's, something like groove?

And how "shake" works? A dance?


Yes on both counts, although "beat music" is more '60s than '70s.

 
 Posted:   Apr 2, 2013 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

Just saw SCACCO ALLA REGINA. Interesting. The music should bring back some imagery and more.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2013 - 9:34 PM   
 By:   Daddy Lime   (Member)

smile
I just came across a brand new release for I FRATELLI KARAMAZOV on the Kronos Records site.
It's a 2 CD set up for order now. No samples posted yet, but any Piccioni is an instant buy for me.

I have a few Kronos CDs in my collection now (Piccioni, Umiliani, De Masi) and they are wonderful. Nicely packaged with great sound quality.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2013 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

Many sound clips for I FRATELLI KARAMAZOV can be found here:
http://www.kronosrecords.com/catalogue.html

This is a wonderful Piccioni score and I am glad that Kronos does release it!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2013 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   Daddy Lime   (Member)

Many sound clips for I FRATELLI KARAMAZOV can be found here:
http://www.kronosrecords.com/catalogue.html

This is a wonderful Piccioni score and I am glad that Kronos does release it!


smile
Yes, I see the clips are up now with more ordering details.
It's scheduled to ship in June and is limited to 500.

With Beat's Piccioni series and this new release, there's a lot to look forward to!




 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2013 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   ajhfsm   (Member)

It will likely be an avalanche, some titles sell out immediately others not for years.

I was lucky to see the VHS edition of Lo Straniero. Piccioni's music leaves a stranger taste. I enjoyed the film much more before the turning point, seemed to lose it's qualities after that.



Verita Note!

I hope Mr TR is going to continue his Piccioni review.

I really looking forward to listening to SCACCO ALLA REGINA, I appreciate that recommendation.

 
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