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Wait...in what bizarro universe is The Rock considered a "decent" film? And you call others out on their tastes?
YOR likes facehugger a lot, but he has to agree with this!
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I just thought of a positive spin to all this boring Zimmer bashing.
While this has been going on, focusing on one target, there has not been one incident of boring Horner bashing.
That's because Horner, unlike Zimmer, isn't an illiterate. He's just a thief. At least he has his music history down pat, PLUS be he required to write an entirely original score on his own, and orchestrate it, Horner would be able to do it! He's just too lazy. 15 years from now he might wanna echo Elmer Bernstein: "I'm too old and too rich to give a shit". Zimmer, by comparison, is an industrious honey bee. Unfortunately he has about the same knowledge of music history as said honey bee.
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A new short summary of this thread:
Zimmer - still bad.
Horner - thief.
Many posters here - wise, respectful of film score history, would write much better scores than Zimmer or Horner themselves.
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Jul 13, 2013 - 11:07 AM
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Tom Servo
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A new short summary of this thread:
Zimmer - still bad.
Horner - thief.
Many posters here - wise, respectful of film score history, would write much better scores than Zimmer or Horner themselves.
And these "wise, respectful" posters would wind up not booking any jobs because of their strict, narrow-minded devotion to the past and unwillingness to provide directors something new.
You know, I adore music for film throughout all of its era, but it's foolish to think it would never go experience change. Moving from the Golden Age of movie music onto to the Norths, Bernsteins, Mancinis and Goldsmiths was also once seen as a death knell for film music. It wasn't. People here who aren't fans of Hans Zimmer need to relax and realize that change is constantly happening in all art forms and it's not always going to be in a direction that pleases everyone. But it will inevitably change again, so who knows, the next direction for film music might be more to your liking.
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A new short summary of this thread:
Zimmer - still bad.
Horner - thief.
Many posters here - wise, respectful of film score history, would write much better scores than Zimmer or Horner themselves.
And these "wise, respectful" posters would wind up not booking any jobs because of their strict, narrow-minded devotion to the past and unwillingness to provide directors something new.
You know, I adore music for film throughout all of its era, but it's foolish to think it would never go experience change. Moving from the Golden Age of movie music onto to the Norths, Bernsteins, Mancinis and Goldsmiths was also once seen as a death knell for film music. It wasn't. People here who aren't fans of Hans Zimmer need to relax and realize that change is constantly happening in all art forms and it's not always going to be in a direction that pleases everyone. But it will inevitably change again, so who knows, the next direction for film music might be more to your liking.
Exactly.
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You know, I adore music for film throughout all of its era, but it's foolish to think it would never go experience change. Moving from the Golden Age of movie music onto to the Norths, Bernsteins, Mancinis and Goldsmiths was also once seen as a death knell for film music.
What has anything of that to do with Golden Age Music? And neither were any of those composers ever seen as a "death knell to film music". This is just blabbering, get your facts straight! These composers you mentioned were revered in their time, while Hans Zimmer employs people to compose dumb music in his.
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I am not making a direct comparison to this Zimmer argument since I am not that big a Zimmer fan (but I have enjoyed some of his music so that probably qualifies me as being a part of the bane of human civilization") but I see ample evidence of that old film music fart mentality still flourishing.
All of this would matter if there was a PROGRESS of some kind in the music headlined by Hans Zimmer, but there isn't. I laugh when I hear that people who adore this think they're listening to "modern" music. It's a joke. RCP is (mostly, not exclusively) producing music that is regressive in the extreme, which falls back on simplistic patterns, conventional & forgettable progressions, thinly dressed up with a few electronic effects to make it sound contemporary. Max Steiner was more progressive than Hans Zimmer.
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All of this would matter if there was a PROGRESS of some kind in the music headlined by Hans Zimmer, but there isn't. I laugh when I hear that people who adore this think they're listening to "modern" music. It's a joke. RCP is (mostly, not exclusively) producing music that is regressive in the extreme, which falls back on simplistic patterns, conventional & forgettable progressions, thinly dressed up with a few electronic effects to make it sound contemporary. Max Steiner was more progressive than Hans Zimmer.
Perfect!
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