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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Outland
 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2010 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

I haven't seen the DVD, but I have the laserdisc Neil spoke of (yes I'm still using my LD) and I'm hoping for a spectacular Blu-ray one day.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2010 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

What the... I missed the HD broadcast... I've held onto my laserdisc, though.

I actually have a R2 DVD of this and then I pcked up the reissue of of the R1 DVD from a few years ago and neither one seems to look as good as the laserdisc.

I really hope WB puts this out on BD with an improved transfer and a commentary track. This movie gets a lot of crap from people but I love it.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2010 - 3:04 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

I just love the film version of The Airlock... The added mechanized sounds in the orchestra make what's happening on screen even scarier.

 
 Posted:   Jun 18, 2010 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   mark ford   (Member)

Goldsmith himself may not have been a big fan of hardware music (or even action music all that much), but he is in my humble opinion its master and Outland is another great example of how well he excelled at it. I may wear out this CD as much as I did the original LP when it came out.

High 5 to Lukas for this and if anyone disagrees "l might just kick your nasty ass all over this room. That's a marshal joke." wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2010 - 9:17 PM   
 By:   djintrepid   (Member)

Oh man, I am extremely gratified with this release. It goes beyond my expectations. The sound is phenomenal! The entire package is phenomenal! Thank you FSM for yet another outstanding job!

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2010 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Just watched the movie again on dvd and the transfer is not great at all. There is some heavy shaking going on during the establishing shots of the mining complex. Also, in the ball sport exercise scenes there is a lot of noticeable grain and even 'cigarette burns' in the film itself. The audio mix is standard but nothing spectacular. I'm hoping Warner will do this movie justice on blu-ray.

P.S. the chemistry between Connery and Sternhagen is a pleasure to view, some great 'wisecracking' lines smile

 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2010 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

My copy of the DVD claims to be anamorphically enhanced, but it is not. The 5.1 track is also one of those that doesn't properly matrix out the rear channels, so it is overly front-heavy, as opposed to the laserdisc's Dolby Surround track, which would have been a more accurate representation of the Dolby Stereo track.

I have to say that I was taken surprise not so much by the music but by how excited I was once I received the album in the mail. Nobody could do this sort of thing the way Goldsmith could. Outland sounds something like a cross between his chilling soundscapes for Alien and his pulse-pounding jagged action of First Blood, all with what seems to be a wry cynicism.

This is another case where I am pleased that both the complete score and the album are included. The complete score is a fantastic alternative that in no way supplants the original album, which contains significant differences.

I love the sound!!!

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2010 - 2:02 PM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

Got mine yesterday, and after a damn good listen, I enjoyed a damn fine score - thanks Lukas and the gang!

 
 Posted:   Jun 23, 2010 - 3:40 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

The 5.1 track is also one of those that doesn't properly matrix out the rear channels, so it is overly front-heavy, as opposed to the laserdisc's Dolby Surround track, which would have been a more accurate representation of the Dolby Stereo track.
.

I!!


This was released in 70mm so there was a discreet soundtrack mixed for the film.
Guess it could not be located frown
brm

 
 Posted:   Jul 24, 2010 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

i LOVE THE COVER ART AND MUCH PREFER IT TO THE ORIGINAL theatrical RELEASE POSTER
but...
could not FSM have included the poster art which had a picture of Sean Connery and the tag line "On Jupiter's Moon, he is the only law" ?
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2010 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

When FSM announced the CD release of Outland, I’ve learned that Bruce Botnick did the CD mastering of that edition. The production company he founded 2 decades ago, Digital Magnetics, did the recording, mixing, and editing of the first commercial album edition for Warner Bros Records. His name is not listed in the album credits, just the company, but I am only assuming that he is involved in album version.
If Mr. Botnick had any interaction with Goldsmith during the production of the album, I was hoping that Mr. Botnick would provide some recollections on it in the linear notes for the new Outland as he did for linear notes of FSM’s Twilight Zone: The Movie.

The things I’m curious about are the following:

Did Mr. Botnick travel to England with his SONY equipment to supervise the digital recording of the album edition from Eric Thomlinson’s mixing board?

Was this the second project with Goldsmith since the album edition of Star Trek: The Motion Picture?

Well, FSM’s Poltergeist will be out this year. Mr. Botnick was involved in the first commercial album edition. Maybe we’ll get a recollection piece out of him for the new one.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2010 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

the lp version is superior imho
the expanded adds nothing new thematically from Jerry
the source cues are filler

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2010 - 7:16 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Man, I haven't stopped listening to this since I got it last month.

This is one score that was crying out for expansion. Never thought it would really happen. So awesome. I love the film version of Hot Water with the extended percussion at the end and the longer beginning that builds and builds as he introduces each different instrument. As MikeJ pointed out, the film version of "Air Lock" is SO much better with the "beeping" flutes. I don't think I could ever go back to listening to the LP version again.

Also love the sneaking cues like "The Buy", "The Fix", and especially "Stiffed" and "The Bags" with their slashing synth.

And the actual Main Titles are so damn cool. I use it on practically all of my custom playlists. Great companion cue to Goldsmith's alternate ALIEN main titles.

The cover kicks major ass too.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2010 - 8:53 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

LOVE the pings, too.

Mutant, I'd like to see one of these weird playlists you've made.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2010 - 9:19 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

THIS WOULD have made an excellent single cd.
It could have the lp program from disc2 PLUS many alternates
and film versions as mentioned above.

 
 Posted:   Aug 8, 2010 - 9:20 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

LOVE the pings, too.

Mutant, I'd like to see one of these weird playlists you've made.


I'll hook you up. Warning, it's looooong.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2010 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I think that there would have been too much material to fit on a single disc, and there was too much that was different between the two versions to really omit anything.

I happen to like the score + album format. People who prefer the latter have it to fall back on with the score as a reference should they so care, and those who prefer the score can listen to that without losing any of the dedicated album recordings, mixes and edits.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2010 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Confession time.

I didn't like Outland at first when I first experienced it on LP. The film didn't seem like anything I fancied. And I thought the score as represented on LP was not best Goldsmith. It got filed under "It's OK, but not one of my 'special' Goldsmith scores".

But someone recently showed me the film and that, coupled with spending quality time with FSM's CD, has transformed my opinion. Yeah, it might not "reach out" off the disc like something like Under Fire, but I now perceive qualities in the score that I previously didn't.

FSM's Outland is currently getting a lot of airplay in my house.

Thanks,

Steve.

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2010 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

LOVE the pings, too.

Mutant, I'd like to see one of these weird playlists you've made.


I'll hook you up. Warning, it's looooong.


It's cool. Hook me up with a track list or whatever (via email). It'll be like your own Dissonant/Ambient Cinematic Sound!

 
 Posted:   Aug 9, 2010 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I'm still playing the crap outta this one, too. It amazes me that folks thing the original LP was good enough and that the expanded material is just filler. That boggles my mind on many levels. FSM did an incredible job with this one!

 
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