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 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Superman1701   (Member)

Thing I had to keep reminding myself was, that many of the cues I always wanted turned out to originate in a single episode and turned out to later become a library cue. So listening to the score I wondered what happened to a certain cue and then I would check the Library cue discs (which highlight which cues are from which original episodes) and then I found every single one of them. For example I was looking for the humerous cue thats often played when something silly happens, like when Scotty was getting drunk with the Kelvins in By Any Other Name and that cue turned out to be from Trouble With Tribbles. Im STILL discovering things about the scores I never knew. Thats part of the beauty of it!

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 5:00 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

In theory, LLL could have offered a simulated-stereo version of the Collection, the way classic TV shows often have an alternate, colorized version of their DVD season box sets. I would have had to think long and hard about what I wanted if LLL had done that.

No, producers should never do that, IMO. Once these "stereoizations" are done and released, they can never be undone. Too many frequencies would have been mucked around with irreversibly.



I'm saying that LLL could have offered the mono set or a simulated-stereo set, your choice. You're awfully free with the never and always talk. smile

Anyway, it's not a big deal to me, with the mono sounding good.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 5:08 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

I'm saying that LLL could have offered the mono set or a simulated-stereo set, your choice. You're awfully free with the never and always talk. smile

?????? Huh ???????????

Oh well, moving on.....

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Heath   (Member)

I second the request, specifically to complete your re-recording of Dunlap's "Destructors." I heard part of your work and really enjoyed it. It's a huge improvement over the original!

That's very kind of you.

Funnily enough, I think Paul Dunlap might have made a very good Star Trek composer for several reasons including the fact that quite a lot of his work revolved around fourths, which is an interval that's very important in Star Trek's musical universe.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 6:54 PM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

Here's a nitpick for the producers-- "Amok Time" Track 13 'The Ancient Combat' there is a slight difference in the episode score. When T'Pau exclaims "I can forgive such a display only once!" and the Executioner puts the blade to McCoy's throat, we hear a high pitched whistle-like sound that is not on this soundtrack. Did anyone else notice this?

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Good memory, Adam. I haven't gotten to Amok Time yet, though.

I would like to mention how much pure pleasure I got from Spock's Brain. I always liked the score within the episode, but alone it's outstanding! The fight scherzo especially is wild and electrifying when heard in its pure state-- I went nuts-- and "Spock's Fugue" is another cue that comes to life on CD vs the episode. It's much better than you realize from watching TV.

I knew I'd love Elaan of Troyius, and boy was I right, but Spock's Brain is in my head now. It's been a discovery, not just a familiar memory.

May I also say it's a joy to learn that the master tapes for The Cage are "not so wounded as we were led to believe." Between the completeness and the sound quality, I have never enjoyed The Cage anywhere near so much!

The Conscience of the King score is so well-heard in the episode that it really wasn't full of surprises for me, and the Bremner was good as far as it went, but I'm thrilled to have the complete score now, and sounding so damn good.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 7:35 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

Here's a nitpick for the producers-- "Amok Time" Track 13 'The Ancient Combat' there is a slight difference in the episode score. When T'Pau exclaims "I can forgive such a display only once!" and the Executioner puts the blade to McCoy's throat, we hear a high pitched whistle-like sound that is not on this soundtrack. Did anyone else notice this?

That's an overlay from "Catspaw".

Neil

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 8:08 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Here's a nitpick for the producers-- "Amok Time" Track 13 'The Ancient Combat' there is a slight difference in the episode score. When T'Pau exclaims "I can forgive such a display only once!" and the Executioner puts the blade to McCoy's throat, we hear a high pitched whistle-like sound that is not on this soundtrack. Did anyone else notice this?

That's an overlay from "Catspaw".

Neil


You can't pick nits off of The Bulk. wink

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 8:09 PM   
 By:   Adam B.   (Member)

That's an overlay from "Catspaw".

Neil


Interesting. Thank you, Neil.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

You can easily put those two pieces of music together in Garage Band, which I will probably do in the near future (I already stitched together "Arrows" from "Friday's Child" with "Second Kroykah" from "Amok Time" to make the climax of "A Private Little War").
Certain effects were created by the music editors after the composers completed recording their scores and, presumably, without their input and/or approval--for the most part we wanted to present the scores as recorded and showing the original intent of the composers (presenting the unused cues from "Catspaw" and "Amok Time," for example, in the sequence in which they would have appeared in the episodes). The only example I can think of where we recreated an edit was the opening use of the "Go For Baroque" piece in "Conscience of the King," which is truncated there but plays completely later in the episode. Its use was iconic in both cases so Lukas wanted to present both versions within the score and I quite like that approach in that case. But the "Amok Time" sting was pretty clearly something done after the fact.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Here's a nitpick for the producers-- "Amok Time" Track 13 'The Ancient Combat' there is a slight difference in the episode score. When T'Pau exclaims "I can forgive such a display only once!" and the Executioner puts the blade to McCoy's throat, we hear a high pitched whistle-like sound that is not on this soundtrack.



Good, I'm glad it's missing. Saves me having to edit it out. I can't bear those high-pitched whistle sounds. Fred Steiner (whose work I otherwise enjoy immensely) seemed to use them a lot, also in Lost in Space. Sounds horrible.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Okay, I'm really good at just going through the cues to find overlays, but this one has me flummoxed. In Mudd's Women, there's a tinkling that backs the sparkling of the Venus drug when Eve is looking at it in Mudd's quarters. It's not in the Venus Drug cue and I never heard it outside of the episode during the tracking. No problem, I was hoping though to find it and put it in myself, but it's not part of the library cues as far as I can tell. It's like a one or two second chime, used twice toward the end. You guys know what I mean?

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 11:13 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Okay, I'm really good at just going through the cues to find overlays, but this one has me flummoxed. In Mudd's Women, there's a tinkling that backs the sparkling of the Venus drug when Eve is looking at it in Mudd's quarters. It's not in the Venus Drug cue and I never heard it outside of the episode during the tracking. No problem, I was hoping though to find it and put it in myself, but it's not part of the library cues as far as I can tell. It's like a one or two second chime, used twice toward the end. You guys know what I mean?


This is just a guess, but could it be part of the Talosian elevator chime from The Cage, maybe played at a different speed? Or else it's from a planet atmosphere effect.

 
 Posted:   Dec 21, 2012 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I'm saying that LLL could have offered the mono set or a simulated-stereo set, your choice. You're awfully free with the never and always talk. smile

?????? Huh ???????????

Oh well, moving on.....



If that was unclear, I'm afraid it might have sounded like an insult. I should have put "never and always" in quotes. I didn't mean that you "always talk." You're supposed to talk.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2012 - 7:19 AM   
 By:   Charles Thaxton   (Member)

Did I miss O'Reily's version of KATHLEEN on there somewhere? wink

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2012 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Amin Bhatia   (Member)

"Absolutely Fantastic" (Scotty in "I Mudd")

I am gleefully pouring through the box and loving every moment of it! I'm 11 years old again. Thank you Jeff and Lukas and crew!

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2012 - 12:11 PM   
 By:   Glenn Butler   (Member)

Which episodes was "Mace Fight" from Catspaw tracked into? I'm sure I'm not remembering it from Catspaw. Maybe All Our Yesterdays?

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2012 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Did I miss O'Reily's version of KATHLEEN on there somewhere? wink

I mentioned that in the other thread a while back, but no one responded. Maybe "Kathleen" was recorded like a looped dialogue track and was never considered a music cue. Not a big deal.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2012 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

Okay, I'm really good at just going through the cues to find overlays, but this one has me flummoxed. In Mudd's Women, there's a tinkling that backs the sparkling of the Venus drug when Eve is looking at it in Mudd's quarters. It's not in the Venus Drug cue and I never heard it outside of the episode during the tracking. No problem, I was hoping though to find it and put it in myself, but it's not part of the library cues as far as I can tell. It's like a one or two second chime, used twice toward the end. You guys know what I mean?


This is just a guess, but could it be part of the Talosian elevator chime from The Cage, maybe played at a different speed? Or else it's from a planet atmosphere effect.


Actually, I'm thinking it could be from The Naked Time, in "Up the Rebels" when Reilly is blowing on the doors to make them open. Maybe that was used to overlay.

 
 Posted:   Dec 22, 2012 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   Saul Pincus   (Member)

"Absolutely Fantastic" (Scotty in "I Mudd")

I am gleefully pouring through the box and loving every moment of it! I'm 11 years old again. Thank you Jeff and Lukas and crew!


Amin Bhatia, how dare you love this box and be 11 years old again?

 
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