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 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

The budget was approximately the same and they made nearly $200 million less, net, than the lowest-grossing prequel. Not exactly enough to put anyone in the poorhouse, but clearly not pulling its weight compared to other Marvel properties.

That's exactly it, though: as long as it's profitable, they will keep making them to keep the property. Once Sony goes some number of years without a Spider-Man picture, the rights revert to Marvel. There's no way they're going to let that happen when they're making hundreds of millions of dollars off of the things.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

"Lukewarm" is subjective

No, lukewarm in this case is not subjective (or you misunderstand what one of those words mean): its a colloquialism that paints the facts - Amazing Spider-Man made money, but MUCH less than previous installments. Smaller profit margins = lukewarm. The End.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbp3Ra3Yp74

The first trailer is here, and apparently not with Zimmer's music yet,

but...

there's this site, where you can here what may be Zimmer`s music, once you click on Electro.

http://www.theamazingspiderman.com/site/#characters/max-dillon


Blah no thank you! If Tyler had been chosen that would have been better...but Zimmer's music, sounds like Man Of Steel all over again.

Three villains in one Spider-Man film. They did this with Raimi's Spider-Man 3 and we all know how that turned out. I hope this film fares better though... I'm still not keen on the looks for Electro.

It's cool we were given hints to possibly Vulture and or Doc Ock being in the 3rd film.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Oscarilbo   (Member)

Blah no thank you! If Tyler had been chosen that would have been better...but Zimmer's music, sounds like Man Of Steel all over again.

Did you really heard the music in the second link ?

It sound nothing like Man of Steel, and probably how many think should have sounded like

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 2:44 PM   
 By:   Hybrid Soldier   (Member)

I can confirm the music from the website link posted above is from the score...


It's HZ's theme... Arturo Sandoval on trumpet & Johnny Marr on guitar !

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   cirithungol   (Member)

It's impossible to judge based on just a few seconds of music, but that brief snippet did nothing for me. If that's the sound he's going for, then it's even worse than Man Of Steel.

Bring back James Horner!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   c8   (Member)

If that's from Zimmer's theme....oh dear.

Reminds me of music from a generic local news station package. Sounds nothing like music for a superhero.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

I can confirm the music from the website link posted above is from the score...


It's HZ's theme... Arturo Sandoval on trumpet & Johnny Marr on guitar !



Interesting! I would have bet good money that it was a mockup because the trumpet seemed to have only one dynamic level and sounded a bit over-processed. Still interested to hear more, though.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 5:49 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)

Isn't that funny that journalists still don't get it? Like, let's do the absolute minimum amount of research for every one of these news stories.

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Isn't that funny that journalists still don't get it? Like, let's do the absolute minimum amount of research for every one of these news stories.



Those frames from Tintin have just made my day!

 
 Posted:   Dec 5, 2013 - 11:00 PM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

I love the new trailer.

I liked the first movie better than Raimi´s first and third film (the second, though, still is the best Spider-Man film so far).

But I don´t know why I´m still falling for Zimmer´s PR foolery. What did he say in that interview about him scoring the new Spiderman? That he´s working so hard to give it the right sound? That he scored the trailer with so much ideas and insight?

If this trailer features new Zimmer music I can´t tell the difference from any other trailer music of the last decade.

Sony obviously wanted to have the new film sound like everything else, not this "melodic Horner-shit"...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 12:09 AM   
 By:   cdelelee   (Member)

Here is Hans' theme, w/typical Horner sound :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9mhP45AY1M

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 2:51 AM   
 By:   GOLDSMITHDAKING   (Member)

I love the new trailer.

I liked the first movie better than Raimi´s first and third film (the second, though, still is the best Spider-Man film so far).

But I don´t know why I´m still falling for Zimmer´s PR foolery. What did he say in that interview about him scoring the new Spiderman? That he´s working so hard to give it the right sound? That he scored the trailer with so much ideas and insight?

If this trailer features new Zimmer music I can´t tell the difference from any other trailer music of the last decade.

Sony obviously wanted to have the new film sound like everything else, not this "melodic Horner-shit"...


Great.Another thread for the Zimmer haters to vent their frustration.

Its entirely possible that James Horner did not want to score the sequel.

For the record, i thought the first Amazing Spider Man was total garbage.Badly acted, badly written, and the depiction of Peter Parker an an annoying twat was disgraceful.

http://youtu.be/l2KSPiTOMR8

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 5:24 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

And now we know how it sounds when Zimmer is asked to ape Horner. I don't have anything against Zimmer, and he's had a couple really fun scores this year, but the last time a score felt so wrong was when Tim Jones took over Human Target from Bear McCreary. Of course they have plenty of time to work on it so here's hoping it'll end up fitting the picture and sounding better than this short excerpt suggests it will.

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 5:55 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Well, I like Zimmer. Not *everything*, but a fair amount. Lets say 50/50?

And that soundclip (if its him) is pretty good - but the fact its obviously cribbing Aaron Copland's Fanfare For The Common Man doesn't sit well. Thats such a singular work and so well-known that attempting to retread a grand master of orchestral music feels... dirty to me.

(At least when Elmer Bernstein did it, it was as an in-joke.)

BUT if he sticks within the same melodic areas (like he did on Inception, Dark Knight Rises, Last Samurai), I think I'll like this a lot more than Horner's score.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

but the fact its obviously cribbing Aaron Copland's Fanfare For The Common Man doesn't sit well.

Note that I haven't listened to this is example, but David Newman's Firebirds is practically Fanfare for the Common Man just reworked a bit. I don't think I saw anyone bitch about it...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   jedijones77   (Member)

I wish the studio had realized their colossal, expensive mistake in recasting and changing directors with this mess of a movie and brought back Raimi the way the X-Men franchise is bringing back Singer. Webb couldn't direct an action scene to save his life and Garfumble couldn't act his way out of a paper bag. Not to mention how awful Mama Gump was compared to the brilliant, perfectly cast actress playing Aunt May in Raimi's films. And now I have to look forward to a bad soap opera plot with Spidey's parents as super-spies or something that sounds like it came out of some godawful 1990s comic book?

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 8:02 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

but the fact its obviously cribbing Aaron Copland's Fanfare For The Common Man doesn't sit well.

Note that I haven't listened to this is example, but David Newman's Firebirds is practically Fanfare for the Common Man just reworked a bit. I don't think I saw anyone bitch about it...


The internet was a much smaller, much more intelligent bunch in 1990. I doubt anyone logging on to CSNET had it in their minds to see that kind of movie wink

And now I have to look forward to a bad soap opera plot with Spidey's parents as super-spies or something that sounds like it came out of some godawful 1990s comic book?

Amazing Spider-Man 366!

 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Just listened to the clip on the Official Website. I dunno guys, sounds promising to me. Sounds like Copland meets well, Hans Zimmer. I thought it would be a little more pop oriented and was pleasantly surprised that there's a leaning towards a classical fusion.

Seems like Zimmer is condemned either way here. For me, it's a fresh sound and I'm at least interested in hearing more.

The one thing I like is how "airy" it sounds. It's more linear and less weighed down by a lot of instrumentation. I think it will marry well with the character.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 6, 2013 - 11:28 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Just listened to the clip on the Official Website. I dunno guys, sounds promising to me. Sounds like Copland meets well, Hans Zimmer. I thought it would be a little more pop oriented and was pleasantly surprised that there's a leaning towards a classical fusion.

Seems like Zimmer is condemned either way here. For me, it's a fresh sound and I'm at least interested in hearing more.

The one thing I like is how "airy" it sounds. It's more linear and less weighed down by a lot of instrumentation. I think it will marry well with the character.


Agreed. This seems substantially better than Zimmer's last crack at a superhero. I like that it's a single, real trumpet, not being doubled by synths. I don't think it's going to be anything world shattering but I'm cautiously optimistic that the score might be fun in a guilty pleasure sort of way. I'd be surprised if it was better than Horner's decent and Elfman's phenomenal efforts.

Chris.

 
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