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Jan 23, 2010 - 10:59 PM
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Jon A. Bell
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Just put my order.
FSM always sets example for record companies. Unlike intrada, which only cares how to make money.
Learn from that, intrada!!!
I agree. I will never order anything again from that crummy Intrada. They banned me from the forum because of a bunch of babies there with no sense of humor. Doug's loss not mine, he turned out to be a huge jerk, after all the money I spent there.
Both Doug and Roger are good friends of mine. I've known them for almost 25 years, and they are two of the nicest, most decent human beings I've ever met.
For the record, Doug and Lukas are friends who have actually worked on each others' album releases, and I doubt seriously that Lukas would approve of you badmouthing Doug or Roger, and they would also jump to Lukas's defense if some moron was attacking him for no reason.
Welcome to my Ignore list.
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Just put my order.
FSM always sets example for record companies. Unlike intrada, which only cares how to make money.
Learn from that, intrada!!!
I agree. I will never order anything again from that crummy Intrada. They banned me from the forum because of a bunch of babies there with no sense of humor. Doug's loss not mine, he turned out to be a huge jerk, after all the money I spent there.
Both Doug and Roger are good friends of mine. I've known them for almost 25 years, and they are two of the nicest, most decent human beings I've ever met.
For the record, Doug and Lukas are friends who have actually worked on each others' album releases, and I doubt seriously that Lukas would approve of you badmouthing Doug or Roger, and they would also jump to Lukas's defense if some moron was attacking him for no reason.
Welcome to my Ignore list.
I certainly agree with you, Intrada is very customer friendly, exemplary in their service and dispatch. I believe I've made that clear here and elsewhere.
I'm not too quick to ignore, though. Mixed emotions, here.
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Of course noone's mentioned the REAL story, which was deleted from the forums. Mr. Eastman here pretty much insulted everyone left and right, for no real reason. It was hardly a simple difference of opinion.
But I guess that's off topic here as discussing his behavior there was there...
Agreed 100%. RM Eastman struck me as particularly aggressive and abrasive on that board and was purposefully attempting to rile people up.
I could care less.
That's couldn't.
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Jan 24, 2010 - 9:43 AM
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10Arrows
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Okay, I have a question for fellow score collectors. So many times, something from the past is rereleased and there is much fanfare, excitement that another Holy Grail has been released. Black Sunday for example. I've heard it, and it is one of the most boring scores I have ever heard.
So, my question. Why all the hoopla? Is this just a collecting thing, where it is a chance to plug a hole in your collections, never do be heard again; or is it that I'm just out of the loop, and everyone does think this is a wonderful listen.
Not my intent to insult anyone's musical tastes, different strokes and all that. I have just seen this happen a lot in recent years, great jubilation over a new release of an old score I never found interesting in the first place.
I would be interested in people's views. Thanks!
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Jan 24, 2010 - 10:07 AM
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Mark Ford
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I second SchiffyM.
For me it is one of William's most exciting, hard hitting, psychological scores and is a rare venture for him into thriller territory, usually Goldsmith's niche. Plus, I'm a sucker for any score that employs even a small bit of modern day fugal writing. I quit being a hardcore William's completist a number of years ago so no, this grail, for me at least, isn't to plug a hole in my collection. I would want this score even if I didn't have any other Williams, although I do have a lot!.
One person's boring is another's exciting and vice-a-versa. It's just personal, subjective opinions and totally valid for each individual. What I don't like is when someone presents their opinion as a statement of fact to be regraded as such by others and if they don't agree with it then they're wrong. That's egotistical BS and not rooted in any sort of adult reality. 10Arrows presented his post as his opinion and invited other viewpoints which follows in the spirit of good discussion.
Not my intent to insult anyone's musical tastes, different strokes and all that. I have just seen this happen a lot in recent years, great jubilation over a new release of an old score I never found interesting in the first place.
Of course that's just how you feel based on your own tastes which at times may not align with many others. I'm sure there are some you did get excited about that others didn't. Believe me I know. I may be one of the few here on the boards that didn't care about the epic release of Silvestri's Back to the Future and that was probably many peoples favorite release of the year or at least a major holy grail for some. Conversely I thought Goldsmith's Freud was the release of the year for me and very few felt the same way. I'm not perplexed by it though, but know rather that it's just personal preferences, that's all.
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I am not sure I understand what is going on here...nor do I care to try. I have a great relationship with Intrada, if I am allowed to characterize it. Yes, we are competitors, but I hope in a good sense in that we try to outdo each other in a friendly rivalry. We do assist on each others' productions from time to time, including several going on at the moment. And we share an art director (Joe Sikoryak). Some things we do a little differently... but it would be a boring world if everyone did things the same way.
I hope I don't sound too cool for school but I don't keep track of the rivalries and antagonisms on this message board unless something blows up to the point where I have no choice -- and even then, I find it tiresome beyond belief. I look at Intrada's board but I barely have enough time to post on this one.
I give people a wide berth here to criticize. There are many reasons: It's in the spirit of how FSM started (20 years ago!), it inspires debate, it grows the board, it fosters ideas. For a perfect example, 10Arrow's post above: I can't say that's going to help us move Black Sunday CDs, but it's thoughtful, it's couched fairly, it's interesting, and I even agree in some ways. I'm glad that people feel the freedom to chime in like that.
It's when people get hair triggers and simply act in an antisocial manner that I'm simply disappointed and wish they would show some emotional maturity.
Lukas
p.s. Robert Eastman, this song is for you: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/store/MP3/0604/05_BE_HAPPY_AGAIN__JINGLE_O.MP3
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Lukas, you are the Jean Claude Picard of soundtrack producers. (And I can't think of a more appropo use of that jingle from THX.)
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Jan 24, 2010 - 1:43 PM
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Disco Stu
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Okay, I have a question for fellow score collectors. So many times, something from the past is rereleased and there is much fanfare, excitement that another Holy Grail has been released. Black Sunday for example. I've heard it, and it is one of the most boring scores I have ever heard.
Yes I heard the samples and they didn't grab me either but I have to have it for a completist reason. It's because I have a weak spot for Chucky Heston in early 70s disaster films. I am sure I will give the CD one spin and that´s it. It will never be "The Omega man" then again no disaster film music will ever reach that status in my disaster film collection.
So, my question. Why all the hoopla? Is this just a collecting thing, where it is a chance to plug a hole in your collections, never do be heard again; or is it that I'm just out of the loop, and everyone does think this is a wonderful listen.
Not my intent to insult anyone's musical tastes, different strokes and all that. I have just seen this happen a lot in recent years, great jubilation over a new release of an old score I never found interesting in the first place.
We could hold a competition which of us had the most of those occasions. I feel that I would win but then again so would most people. All this extacy over a score that is of no interest of me, makes me wonder whether I ever feel like that when I find the score that I like.
Many recordings of the two Jerries such as "The blue max" or most of Fielding's work leave me completely cold. Things are only worse when I don't like the film (like "The blue max"). That's one of the reasons I am not interested in modern film scores.
I completely agree with the alienation you feel when witnessing this joy fest.
D.S.
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Jan 24, 2010 - 1:43 PM
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TerraEpon
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Okay, I have a question for fellow score collectors. So many times, something from the past is rereleased and there is much fanfare, excitement that another Holy Grail has been released. Black Sunday for example. I've heard it, and it is one of the most boring scores I have ever heard.
So, my question. Why all the hoopla? Is this just a collecting thing, where it is a chance to plug a hole in your collections, never do be heard again; or is it that I'm just out of the loop, and everyone does think this is a wonderful listen.
Not my intent to insult anyone's musical tastes, different strokes and all that. I have just seen this happen a lot in recent years, great jubilation over a new release of an old score I never found interesting in the first place.
I would be interested in people's views. Thanks!
I dunno either. I figured it was some great Williams unreleased gem that'd be up there with all his other works from the period, but to me it's mostly just generic suspense stuff (as I said above, my favorite track from the samples was the Hotel Lobby source!). But my tastes are pretty erratic, there's a lot of other popular scores that I feel the same about (Alien as one nearby in time example).
Still, congrads to FSM for releasing this wanted score.
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