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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Outland
 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2011 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

This was a very difficult title to produce...we had to license the album from WB Records, the unreleased music from WB Pictures...the Boddicker tracks from the artist...we got the Morton Stevens track from Doug Fake at Intrada (thanks Doug!)...we were fortunate to hire Bruce Botnick (Jerry's engineer, although he didn't record Outland which was done in the U.K.) to master it...Jeff Bond and I visited Peter Hyams for a very interesting interview which we published in two parts at FSM Online, about all his movies and composers. Glad people seem to like it!

lk



The work shows....this is one of those LP's that never quite came together for me. Like Legend it felt like pieces just strung together and felt...clunky...unfinished. Not that I wanted a complete score back then but, it just didn't flow for me. This expansion was great, and made the music come alive, move in a natural manner. And I loved the Peter Hyams interview as well.

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2011 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

This was a very difficult title to produce...we had to license the album from WB Records, the unreleased music from WB Pictures...the Boddicker tracks from the artist...we got the Morton Stevens track from Doug Fake at Intrada (thanks Doug!)...we were fortunate to hire Bruce Botnick (Jerry's engineer, although he didn't record Outland which was done in the U.K.) to master it...Jeff Bond and I visited Peter Hyams for a very interesting interview which we published in two parts at FSM Online, about all his movies and composers. Glad people seem to like it!

lk


Thanks, Lukas for getting this one out to us - and a HUGE thanks to you and Doug Fake for the addition of the Morton Stevens cue - to me, that's worth the price of the CD alone...:-)

 
 Posted:   Jul 10, 2011 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

This was a very difficult title to produce... . Glad people seem to like it!

lk


Well I for one am very glad to have this set. I listen to the complete score all the time, the album to a lesser extent (both appear on my iPod). The wary restlessness of the score along with the bouts of harmonic violence makes it a personal favorite, and I really like the angry tone of the Morton Stevens cue. And it sounds fantastic.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2012 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

I have been attached to this Alienish score, superb in its own right, the last few days. Whenever I listen to Goldsmith's muic, which is often, just reminds me how much I miss the man and his music.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2012 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

I have been attached to this Alienish score, superb in its own right, the last few days. Whenever I listen to Goldsmith's muic, which is often, just reminds me how much I miss the man and his music.

Hi RM! I didn't care for this score at first but it grew on me. I'm also looking forward to STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE, possibly my favorite Goldsmith score.

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2012 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Robert0320   (Member)

I have been attached to this Alienish score, superb in its own right, the last few days. Whenever I listen to Goldsmith's muic, which is often, just reminds me how much I miss the man and his music.

So do I and boy does the industry need him right now...it's in a sad state

 
 
 Posted:   May 20, 2012 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   JohnF   (Member)

This FSM release was a dream come true and for me find it a more satisfying listening experience over Alien.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2012 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   stravinsky   (Member)

I got a bargain at the local flea market last week when I snapped up a DVD copy of Outland for £1!
I watched it tonight and thought it wasn't bad as a movie...compared to the garbage they are churning out these days I would say it was actually quite good! For some reason I imagined I had seen this movie when it was released, but I was 11 years old in 1981 and further into the movie I realised this was my first viewing. Would this film have been released as an X certificate in those days? I suppose it would have been too violent and gory for kids.
What I noticed about the movie was that most of the main characters were played by actors in their 40's and 50's which would be impossible now. Also I thought the movie had dated really pretty well considering it's over 30 years old. As far as I'm concerned Alien was Goldsmith's magnum opus and the greatest score he ever wrote. It is simply astonishing music. So much the better now that we have the complete release of it's close cousin. Lastly can anyone tell me exactly where the bonus cues "Watching" and "Released" should be placed in relation to the main body of the score so that I can make a playlist?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2012 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Would this film have been released as an X certificate in those days? I suppose it would have been too violent and gory for kids.

It's always been rated R. I used to watch it when I was a kid, though.

And it was just recently released on Blu-Ray, though, in Anamorphic widescreen and it looks fantastic!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2012 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   stravinsky   (Member)

Would this film have been released as an X certificate in those days? I suppose it would have been too violent and gory for kids.

It's always been rated R. I used to watch it when I was a kid, though.

And it was just recently released on Blu-Ray, though, in Anamorphic widescreen and it looks fantastic!


Sorry. I meant in the UK. We had U, A and X certificates in those days if I can rememeber rightly.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2012 - 4:53 PM   
 By:   Michael24   (Member)

Oops. My bad. I didn't even notice the £ until just now.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 4, 2012 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

Let me also recommend the new bluray of the film - its a huge upgrade in picture and sound quality and very reasonably priced. Throw that bloody awful DVD away wink

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2012 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

Let me also recommend the new bluray of the film - its a huge upgrade in picture and sound quality and very reasonably priced. Throw that bloody awful DVD away wink


how is the music presented ? - front chanals or rear ? or is it a mix ala Temple of doom score

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2012 - 3:53 AM   
 By:   peterproud   (Member)

Let me also recommend the new bluray of the film - its a huge upgrade in picture and sound quality and very reasonably priced. Throw that bloody awful DVD away wink


how is the music presented ? - front chanals or rear ? or is it a mix ala Temple of doom score


Temple Of Doom??? Hmmm, well it's basically a 5.1 mix that just sounds better. Don't expect one to sound like the other necessarily - but the audio sounds good considering the age of the film. Here's a review easily found on google:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/4054/outland.html

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2012 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

some of the music in TEMPLE OF DOOM are in the rear channels e.g. Rope Bridge

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2012 - 4:55 AM   
 By:   stravinsky   (Member)

Can anyone tell me exactly where the bonus cues "Watching" and "Released" should be placed in relation to the main body of the score so that I can make a playlist?

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2012 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

What a dark horse CD this has turned into. I liked it, don't get me wrong, but if you had asked me before the FSM release to rank my favorite Goldsmith scores, I would generally not have necessarily included this one… and yet, since its release, I've spun this album a gabazillion times.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2012 - 11:40 AM   
 By:   stravinsky   (Member)

I could not agree more. I find myself playing this disc over and over. The language is a perfect compliment to Alien. It is the dark and menacing Goldsmith that I like the best sometimes. My friend Richard and I get on the regular merry-go-round of trying to compare Williams and Goldsmith, with me in the Williams camp. Comparisons are futile really because it's like trying to compare Haydn with Mozart I guess.
Discs like "Morituri" "The Sand Pebbles", "Wild Rovers", "Hawkins on Murder", "Escape from the Planet of the Apes", "Coma", "First Blood" and "Twilight Zone" have had the same effect on me as this score does. I find Goldsmith's music aurally fascinating and much of it is dark and highly propulsive.
I think he astonished even himself at what sick sounds were in his head, (he said so in the fascinating short film about the recording process for "The Mephisto Waltz" which is in itself a similarly fucked up score) and way he wrote those noises down is what really fascinates me about this composer. He was a true chimera of music. Animalistic and morbid when he needed to be.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2012 - 3:24 PM   
 By:   counterpoint   (Member)

This is such a amazing score. And the FSM double disc is perfect. They simply don`t write scores like that anymore.

 
 Posted:   Aug 5, 2012 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

Revisited the movie in a theatrical revival and on blu recently. Stunning blu transfer. It was awesome to be able to pop in those CDs right after. Truly one of the '80s finest scifi films and scores.

 
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