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Oct 12, 2010 - 9:25 AM
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DanH
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I've been listening to this since Friday night and I can't seem to get more than halfway through it. I get to Where Silence Has Lease and start over again. It's been a dream to get this for about 20 years and every time find a complaint (like wanting Fatal Decision/Auto Destruct cut like it was in Booby Trap), it's rendered meaningless if I'd just go a little further in the set. I have to say thank you to SAE for shipping this out USPS. I could be wrong, but I was pretty sure I selected UPS ground when I pre-ordered a month ago. If they did upgrade this, they did it entirely on their own when they certainly didn't have to. They get a big Thanks for that. But not as big a Thank You that Lukas gets for this. I mentioned in an earlier topic that this might have been his dream project to produce, but this was my dream project to buy. I got a little twinge of hope after Best of Trek Vol.1 with bits of Heart of Glory badly mashed together that we'd get more Ron Jones. It took a bloody long time, but this set was worth it. However, there is no such thing as a satisfied fan boy, and this fan boy wants more. There's still other gold mines in TNG alone worth releasing like "Code of Honor," "Too Short a Season," "Arsenal of Freedom," and "Time Squared." It doesn't have to be a massive box set like this one. Just a 2 CD set that would cost us around $30 and limited to 3,000 copies would be great. I'm also willing to take a "shut up and and I'll try" message from Lukas like with Trek III. Just give us some fleck of navel lint of hope.
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I'm making my way through the set slowly and finding that every episode offers something to catch the ear. The quotations of Goldsmith's theme are particularly welcome. Incidentally, is it just me or is the theme from "When the Bough Breaks" reminiscent of SpaceCamp?
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Great pics from the superb set Scorealot. Thx for showing it to us in detail. Here in Madrid I'm still waiting for it for hopeful I'll receive it soon. It has reached to other people in EU so its a matter of days, or hours. Enjoy your set !
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A question concerning "Human Factor" the version on the alternates disk has much more percussion and pop to it than the second version. Did Ron write this alternate first; the one with the drums, have it rejected, then write the version on disk 8, have that rejected again, and then splice together the stuff from where silence has lease, or did he reject his own heavy pop version before submitting it for approval and tone it down a bit by removing the drums only to have that rejected? Going by the take numbers my assumption is that the version with extra pop drums on disc 13 was the initial version, then Ron tried to placate the producer on the scoring stage (typical comment: "I don't know if Rick's gonna like all those drums...") by doing the version on disc 8. Then during the dub Berman rejected the cue entirely, and Ron and music editor Gerry Sackman went through past scores looking for something else to use instead, and found the music from "Where Silence Has Lease." Lukas
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Yikes, a $150 impulse buy? Maybe the recession is over after all. The samples are a pretty good indication of the kind of music Jones provided, was it really that much of a blind buy for you? The TNG scores never reach the operatic heights of the original series music, but Jones does come as close as he could get away with (and then some), even if it was simply his personal style to be bold. Keep going, there really is some great stuff in there. But if you're not really into it, my advice is to pace yourself. I like his music and I have to stop after awhile, just to take a break from that style. Worst case, I'm sure you could sell it.
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Oct 15, 2010 - 1:11 PM
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Tom Servo
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I have only listened to the first 2 discs (so far) and...I'm underwhelmed. I guess I was spoiled by the quality of the original series' composers (Courage, Fried and Steiner). Competently written, but thus far, nothing really grabs me. Oh well, it was an expensive impulse buy. Perhaps the remaining scores will speak to me. Packaging wise, FSM have done a stellar job and it was nice getting an autographed edition. While the 1st season of TNG had scores closest to the original series in terms of bombast, you really have to put yourself in a different head space when diving into this music. The music by Courage, Steiner, Fried and Kaplan had different antecedents and progenitors from films of the 50's and 60's, while Jones composed his music on the model of Goldsmith's orchestral/electronic hybrid scores of the 70's/80's with a dash of Herrmann's use of motifs and ostinato.
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Oct 15, 2010 - 8:34 PM
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Moonie
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I have only listened to the first 2 discs (so far) and...I'm underwhelmed. I guess I was spoiled by the quality of the original series' composers (Courage, Fried and Steiner). Competently written, but thus far, nothing really grabs me. Oh well, it was an expensive impulse buy. Perhaps the remaining scores will speak to me. Packaging wise, FSM have done a stellar job and it was nice getting an autographed edition. While the 1st season of TNG had scores closest to the original series in terms of bombast, you really have to put yourself in a different head space when diving into this music. The music by Courage, Steiner, Fried and Kaplan had different antecedents and progenitors from films of the 50's and 60's, while Jones composed his music on the model of Goldsmith's orchestral/electronic hybrid scores of the 70's/80's with a dash of Herrmann's use of motifs and ostinato. Well said Tom, I cant get enough of this set , I just love it!!
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