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Dec 18, 2010 - 1:09 PM
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RM Eastman
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You seem angry RM. And is it always necessary to try to insult people for disagreeing with you?
I'm sorry, Henry, I did not mean to insult you. If I did, I apologize. I think Williams is excellent, but I would not put him in Goldsmith;s league either.
My first tier of composers are; Goldsmith, Korngold, Steiner, Herrmann, North, Bernstein, Waxman, Alfred Newman, Rozsa and a few others.
Second: Tiomkin, Raksin, Friedhofer, Gold, Kaper, Mancini, Previn, Rosenthal, Schifrin,V. Young, C. Young, Howard, McCreary, John Scott, RR Bennett and a few others.
Generally dislike: Horner, Williams, Jarre, Conti and several others
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Dec 18, 2010 - 1:23 PM
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henry
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You seem angry RM. And is it always necessary to try to insult people for disagreeing with you?
I'm sorry, Henry, I did not mean to insult you. If I did, I apologize. I think Williams is excellent, but I would not put him in Goldsmith;s league either.
My first tier of composers are; Goldsmith, Korngold, Steiner, Herrmann, North, Bernstein, Waxman, Alfred Newman, and a few others.
You didn't insult me, I knew you were going to say that. You're entitled to your opinion, but so am I. In my opinion Williams is tops. In yours Goldsmith is. But does it really matter? What matters is we enjoy their music.
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Dec 18, 2010 - 1:26 PM
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RM Eastman
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You seem angry RM. And is it always necessary to try to insult people for disagreeing with you?
I'm sorry, Henry, I did not mean to insult you. If I did, I apologize. I think Williams is excellent, but I would not put him in Goldsmith;s league either.
My first tier of composers are; Goldsmith, Korngold, Steiner, Herrmann, North, Bernstein, Waxman, Alfred Newman, and a few others.
You didn't insult me, I knew you were going to say that. You're entitled to your opinion, but so am I. In my opinion Williams is tops. In yours Goldsmith is. But does it really matter? What matters is we enjoy their music.
So true, Henry, in general I just love music. Don't buy "Family Plot" yet let me think about, I may give it to you.
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Doesn't anyone complaining here listen to samples? It was very clear from the samples that we were getting a suspense score from Williams and not his typical orchestral stuff. I just finished watching the movie and I quite liked the theme so I can't wait until I get my copy on Christmas 
I wasn't complaining, just expressing an opinion. I did listen to samples but what sounded great over a few minutes was disappointing over an hour.
Anyway, I'll give it another listen after watching the film.
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There are subtle nods and hommage to Herrmann, the low register ominous strings, ostinato french horns, etc. Hitchcock was either too tired to notice, or too old to care.
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This is a great score.
Quite important in the Williams canon, I think.
He must have been jazzed to work with Hitchcock, even if the material was a bit lacklustre.
I hear some hints of Herrmann too...although he did that in The Fury as well.
The choral stuff is amazing...a precursor to CE3K, as noted.
Williams is the top guy anyway, but 70s Williams is incredible to me.
If Varese meant what they infer in the notes, I'm looking forward to the original MIDWAY score tracks.
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I grew up with the Star Wars and Indiana Jones scores but the last couple of years have seen a number of his seventies scores released (Images, Cinderella Liberty, Black Sunday and now this one) and I'm loving it just as much as his later output! He's always been my favorite composer but my appreciation for the man keeps growing. Family Plot is ace!
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