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 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

It's taking all of my super-strength not to listen to these samples. So far, I haven't heard a single note. I want to experience the score in the film on opening night and base my judgment on that.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

Chugga-chugga-chugga (BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH)

Since you seem to like to make that statement, wrongly a lot of the time, care to point out exactly where you hear the train coming through in the samples?

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

2CD Deluxe Edition?
Oh, God...


They are BOTH 2CD sets. Just like AUJ.


What is auj??

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 11:20 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

If you want a different expereicne for two versions of the same thing (like the two versions of the score posted here standadard and limited edition) try looking at this thread logged in and not logged inas a member. In not logged in its lsited as 13 pages long. As logged in its lsited as 5. It fits the theme of this thread to a tee.

 
 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   Matt S.   (Member)

2CD Deluxe Edition?
Oh, God...


They are BOTH 2CD sets. Just like AUJ.


What is auj??


An Unexpected Journey (The Hobbit).

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

If you want a different expereicne for two versions of the same thing (like the two versions of the score posted here standadard and limited edition) try looking at this thread logged in and not logged inas a member. In not logged in its lsited as 13 pages long. As logged in its lsited as 5. It fits the theme of this thread to a tee.

That is just a forum setting, as a logged in user you can change it to any amount of posts per page you want

http://filmscoremonthly.com/preferences.cfm

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 3:29 PM   
 By:   Perky_Norm   (Member)

Just heard the Water Tower clips...

I really hope the film is more interesting and less generic than its soundtrack. From what I've heard thus far (and accepting the full score might be a vast improvement...) I'm afraid my opinion is what a criminal waste of a musical opportunity - sound-effects-esque, by the numbers, typical of any number of faceless modern day scores, masquerading as something important and grand! A pet peeve is the overuse of drums and rhythm to symbolise action/danger in films today - no character at all. Zimmer seems to use it a lot. Not saying everything should sound like a John Williams score, but I don't want a by the numbers Zimmer on auto-pilot score either, whch this sounds like to me...

Fingers crossed for the full album winning me over. I still have hope from the superb music used in the trailer...

John.

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Musicians playing musical instruments in forms of melody, harmony, and rhythm, using Zimmer's stylistically diatonic approach! Brass, percussion, guitars, bass, synths! How dare they!

 
 Posted:   May 8, 2013 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Remember Backdraft, Crimson Tide, Prince of Egypt? What happen to this guy? A 90's Zimmer Superman score would have been epic. frown

You are so right! Good thing the Zimmer of the '00-'10s picks up the slack and delivers something just as new and refined!

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2013 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Just heard the Water Tower clips...

I really hope the film is more interesting and less generic than its soundtrack. From what I've heard thus far (and accepting the full score might be a vast improvement...) I'm afraid my opinion is what a criminal waste of a musical opportunity - sound-effects-esque, by the numbers, typical of any number of faceless modern day scores, masquerading as something important and grand! A pet peeve is the overuse of drums and rhythm to symbolise action/danger in films today - no character at all. Zimmer seems to use it a lot. Not saying everything should sound like a John Williams score, but I don't want a by the numbers Zimmer on auto-pilot score either, whch this sounds like to me...

Fingers crossed for the full album winning me over. I still have hope from the superb music used in the trailer...

John.


I agree completely (and love your avatar photo, by the way - fingers crossed for PSYCHO II expanded and release in this anniversary year).

What really irritates me is when Zimmer or other composers give interviews in advance stating how much thought went into the instrumentation... and then they deliver something that does not sound as if they did something different from what they always do. It´s just PR-foolery.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2013 - 6:25 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)



What really irritates me is when Zimmer or other composers give interviews in advance stating how much thought went into the instrumentation... and then they deliver something that does not sound as if they did something different from what they always do. It´s just PR-foolery.


Exactly. It's how I felt when Horner talked about working for a year or whatever on Avatar, and when it came out, I was like, "Wow, you really dug deep, didn't you?"

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2013 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Zimmer´s "theme" for the Joker also strikes me as not as difficult to come up with...

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2013 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Zimmer´s "theme" for the Joker also strikes me as not as difficult to come up with...

As someone who just had to endure a two hour music recital of children who were just learning their instruments, I think it's safe to say that Remote Control teaches violin and cello lessons in the room next to Zimmer's studio.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2013 - 6:44 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Zimmer´s "theme" for the Joker also strikes me as not as difficult to come up with...

As someone who just had to endure a two hour music recital of children who were just learning their instruments, I think it's safe to say that Remote Control teaches violin and cello lessons in the room next to Zimmer's studio.


Well, Remote Control is definitely looking for new cutting edge musicians all the time...

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2013 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Zimmer´s "theme" for the Joker also strikes me as not as difficult to come up with...

Whether or not you feel it was an easy theme to write, it was an innovative and brilliant way to musically personify this specific interpretation of that character from the Batman mythos. A standard, hummable tune for the specific Joker seen in "The Dark Knight" would not have worked, but what Zimmer provided for his scenes was an unnerving, uneasy quality, with something unfamiliar in an audible sense to make sure the audience doesn't get comfortable with his character.

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2013 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   WillGoldNewtonBarryGrusin   (Member)

Zimmer´s "theme" for the Joker also strikes me as not as difficult to come up with...

Whether or not you feel it was an easy theme to write, it was an innovative and brilliant way to musically personify this specific interpretation of that character from the Batman mythos. A standard, hummable tune for the specific Joker seen in "The Dark Knight" would not have worked, but what Zimmer provided his scenes an unnerving, uneasy quality, with something unfamiliar in an audible sense to make sure the audience doesn't get comfortable with his character.


I respect your opinion, of course. But I disagree and could point to countless scores in which a threat is constructed through melody. One example alone: Williams´ "Jaws".

 
 Posted:   May 9, 2013 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Perky_Norm   (Member)

Just heard the Water Tower clips...

I really hope the film is more interesting and less generic than its soundtrack. From what I've heard thus far (and accepting the full score might be a vast improvement...) I'm afraid my opinion is what a criminal waste of a musical opportunity - sound-effects-esque, by the numbers, typical of any number of faceless modern day scores, masquerading as something important and grand! A pet peeve is the overuse of drums and rhythm to symbolise action/danger in films today - no character at all. Zimmer seems to use it a lot. Not saying everything should sound like a John Williams score, but I don't want a by the numbers Zimmer on auto-pilot score either, whch this sounds like to me...

Fingers crossed for the full album winning me over. I still have hope from the superb music used in the trailer...

John.


I agree completely (and love your avatar photo, by the way - fingers crossed for PSYCHO II expanded and release in this anniversary year).

What really irritates me is when Zimmer or other composers give interviews in advance stating how much thought went into the instrumentation... and then they deliver something that does not sound as if they did something different from what they always do. It´s just PR-foolery.


Thanks smile

Ignoring the rather predictable, and pathetic 'haters gonna hate' picture/poster from a view posts back, I fully agree with what you say. It just sounds lazy to me, and utterly emotionally synthetic (regardless of whether real instruments were used or not). I don't hate this music, I merely dislike it and feel a film like Superman deserves something epic and grandiose. Something 'warm' and organic. This isn't The Dark Knight. Something with a bit of thought behind it. On the other hand I liked the music in the trailer, so it remains to be seen or heard what the final score will be like. Fingers crossed wink

Psycho II - ahhh it's the very top of my soundtrack Holy Grail list, particularly as I missed out on the original release. Love the film too smile

Cheers,

John.

 
 Posted:   May 11, 2013 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   mastersofuniverse   (Member)

I'm pretty sure Zimmer recycled plenty of his previous scores into this Man of Steel score.

It would be hilarious if he did anything as the Batman Begins theme sneaky copy and paste.
For that one, he loaded his Black Rain midi file into the computer, and copy pasted the notes, and that was that! he though nobody would know!

hilarious!
well at least in that instance, he picked a good one of his to copy and paste.

There is guarenteed to be at least a few copy and paste moments on this score. Zimmer knows that todays mainstream audiences are dumb, stupid and idiotic, and don't know the difference between a piece of music or a sound effect!

For me personally, none of the samples do anything. Too many banging drums and not much else to be honest.

You could probably find more melody in a silent movie to be honest than in this score!

 
 
 Posted:   May 11, 2013 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

"mastersofuniverse"

You are Spot On!

I couldn't agree with you more!

But then -

Why wouldn't Hans Zimmer want to prove himself?

He has mentioned in recent interviews that he knows John Williams is the best - yet

He doesn't need to imitate Williams style, but bring something as iconic and memorable to the table -

Why not produce something worth remembering than "copy and paste" his unthematic "wallpaper" scores?

Who gives a dam about the mainstream market?

They wouldn't notice a memorable theme anyway? (or would they? since it might create an emotion for them that they are scared of!)

If they did notice something memorable they might complain, and not see the film again because it would feel "dated" to them!

It's about money unfortunately.

 
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