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 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 10:28 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

When does the Preminger noir CD get officially announced for ordering?


(.....and those all look like strong, adult movies. Do you have to be over 18 to order? smile )


Monday morning.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)



I've never been so happy to guess wrong! Wonderful release!


We just wanted to include something from Laura, but not our complete version - the suite is for those who missed ours and just love that music

Pity for those who won't hear that classy "piano break" at 2'49 track 9...

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Anabel Boyer   (Member)

Sorry, double post.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....I knew the stuff existed but no one thinks David Raksin sells and to an extent they're right. But I knew him, he was a brilliant composer, and I'll always do David Raksin no matter what. Laura will always sell, but the others in this set are iffy - but Nick and I felt that doing the set this way was the right way to go and we just hope it sells. We were talking last night and for both of us it's probably going to be our favorite of the year.....


Bruce.....I deeply appreciate your taking a chance, not only on Raksin, but on releasing older material before 1950. Kudos to you and Nick for pulling these kinds of things together periodically.

Those of us who collect scores from this period know not only how good they are, but that the sound quality can often be perfection, too, and that there is no reason for a discerning collector, one who truly loves film music, to avoid them.

I am impressed that these kinds of quality releases can change the overall attitudes of some of the younger members of the Board toward this kind of material.

It's gratifying to know that thoughtful, younger, FSM members like Josh Mitchell can discover these, add them to their music tastes, and then actually add the previously unseen movies as well. That's a double benefit not only for Josh and the others, but for all of us older folks who still see artistic merit and entertainment value in the Golden Age films and scores.

And, if the price of this 2-CD release actually is only $20, then WHATTA DEAL! (....though it would be good value if it were even more.)

Can't wait 'til Monday.



Incidentally, I once read an interview with Preminger in which the interviewer asked him about WHIRLPOOL, and Preminger said he didn't remember the film AT ALL, didn't remember anything about it, didn't remember making it. The interviewer pressed him on this and he was still adamant about knowing NOTHING!

I found this extremely hard to believe. Although I forget things about what I've done 40-50 years previously, I've not forgotten something totally. I think he wanted to forget WHIRLPOOL and not be queried about it, though I can't imagine why. I have the DVD, but haven't yet watched it. It seemed like an interesting idea and film---certainly a quality product.
Am thrilled I can soon watch the movie AND play the score!

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 12:06 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm a Raksin fan too and this sounds like an AWESOME set, especially five scores for the price of ONE CD! One non-Raksin aside, it's almost the Kritzerland Raksin at Fox answer to FSM's Raksin at MGM box!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Wow. The Raksin set looks amazing -- thank you for caring so much about the art (and fun!) of filmmusic. This release looks like a true treasure.

Also I've just received "A Place in the Sun" in NYC and I'm counting the minutes until I can get home from work and audition the score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Otto Preminger must have liked working with Dana Andrews. With the exception of Whirlpool, he's in all the films. Bruce,you could have called it Scores From the Films of Dana Andrews Minus One.

I know - he loved Dana, who was such a unique and wonderful actor, not only in these films, but especially in The Best Years of Our Lives.


Preminger had a reputation as being extremely tough on his actors. I wonder if he drove poor Dana Andrews to drink?

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)



Incidentally, I once read an interview with Preminger in which the interviewer asked him about WHIRLPOOL, and Preminger said he didn't remember the film AT ALL, didn't remember anything about it, didn't remember making it. The interviewer pressed him on this and he was still adamant about knowing NOTHING!

I found this extremely hard to believe. Although I forget things about what I've done 40-50 years previously, I've not forgotten something totally. I think he wanted to forget WHIRLPOOL and not be queried about it, though I can't imagine why. I have the DVD, but haven't yet watched it. It seemed like an interesting idea and film---certainly a quality product.
Am thrilled I can soon watch the movie AND play the score!


Watched it recently, and quite an entertaining film. Jose Ferrer makes a real sleazy bad guy, charming and opportunistic. Looking forward to hearing the score away from the movie!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....Preminger had a reputation as being extremely tough on his actors. I wonder if he drove poor Dana Andrews to drink?.....


Don't know about that, but he made his long-time love, Gypsy Rose Lee,
go all the way and take off ALL her clothes---including her gloves! smile

Sondheim wrote a song for GYPSY that was eventually cut from the show, called
"Otto's Turn". smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   georgefenton   (Member)

Thanks again, Bruce!!!!

Wonderful news!!! I´m listening "The Missouri breaks" by Williams right now and it´s great!!. I´m waiting to receive the wonderful "A place in the sun" by Waxman, and now 5 films by Preminger (4 of them by Raksin)!!! These films by Preminger are fantastics (my favourite, of course, is "Laura") and the music is marvellous. "Whirpool" is my second favourite film of the other movies.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 4:11 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Ok, I'll be burning up my paypal account again on Monday. BTW, Bruce, any word on when A Place in the Sun will be shipping? I may have missed the post in all the speculation on Monday's release.

Also, are there any Cast Recordings in the pipeline? (Some of us care about such things after all) smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 4:18 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Ok, I'll be burning up my paypal account again on Monday. BTW, Bruce, any word on when A Place in the Sun will be shipping? I may have missed the post in all the speculation on Monday's release.

Also, are there any Cast Recordings in the pipeline? (Some of us care about such things after all) smile


No cast albums at the moment, but that could change quickly. As stated earlier, everything shipped on Tuesday

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 6:11 PM   
 By:   crogrr   (Member)

Just got A Place in the Sun yesterday......major Kudos to the Krizterland Team.....it's really great Waxman nicely rescued from oblivion!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)


Just got A Place in the Sun today and I'm playing it right now. A great score and it sounds wonderful. Nice artwork too. So good to finally have it. Thanks Bruce! smile

I'm also greatly looking forward to the forthcoming Fox film noir 2 cd set. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 9:38 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Superb score and the sound is equally superb.

 
 Posted:   Jul 26, 2013 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Yes, excellent CD. Haven't played the bonus tracks yet, but the main section sounds splendid.
A fine release like this is also some reasonable compensation for the continued absence of Duning's 3:10 To Yuma from Kritzerland.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   JSDouglas   (Member)

I have been enjoying Franz Waxman's A PLACE IN THE SUN on this Kritzerland CD and I am so grateful it exists. This is a score I had long hoped would see the light of day in an "original tracks" release. The power of Waxman's thematic material cuts through any re-writing by Young or Amfitheatrof - it's dynamite stuff!

Just listen to "Dance and Angela" for that mesmerizing transition from light dance music to full-on love theme. It's the stuff that is at the very essence of what makes film music great.

Not to mention the mysterioso passages that we rarely get to hear and that original finale - wow!

Just for clarity, who conducted track 15? It is credited to both Waxman and Young - is it therefore a blending of two seperately-recorded pieces?

John D.

 
 Posted:   Jul 30, 2013 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Frank DeWald   (Member)

Just for clarity, who conducted track 15? It is credited to both Waxman and Young - is it therefore a blending of two seperately-recorded pieces?

John D.


Yes. It combines the original opening (conducted by Waxman) with the rescore of the first scene (conducted by Young). The changeover occurs in the film almost exactly where Waxman's credit appears. Track 1 is only the rescored portion.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   JamesSouthall   (Member)

My little review, if anyone's interested:

http://www.movie-wave.net/?p=3872

 
 Posted:   Aug 1, 2013 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   Gary S.   (Member)

Loved this cd. Will be listening to it again soon. I think it is about time for a Waxman score fest.

 
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