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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   BrendonKelly   (Member)

Can't wait to get this score. One thing that always seemed strange about the original album and it looks like it is carried over into this new release is that the Klingon track is split between the klingon attack and the Enterprise return to Earth.

It feels and sounds to me (only because of the longish silence between the two distinct segments) that the cue should have been two cues e.g Klingons and then Return To Earth. I assume Horner recorded this as one cue for both variations.

Not a criticism just an observation!

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

I think it was actually one recorder cue for Klingons in both recordings.

What sounds like silence is actually a very slow fadeout of that cymbal/gond/whatever it is crash before the Enterprise arrives at Spacedock.

I don't think it actually goes completely silent, but you'd have to have a pretty high volume to hear it towards the end of the first part.

 
 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

Thanks to that long fade out, it's very easy to split it into two cues.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 3:09 PM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

Thanks to that long fade out, it's very easy to split it into two cues.
That was always my thought too. The two tracks certainly sound like two cues that are meant to be separate. Each has their own start, middle and end. It took my a loooooong time to finally discover it was after the Klingon track long after it started to fade.

Funny thing about that cue though is that if you crank the volume up really high when the klingon portion is all but gone, you can actually hear the entire musical session inhale before they begin the music.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Question for Mr. Bulk or Mr. Kendall, were there any unexpected surprises in the music when you guys were working on it, aka the moment the Enterprise jumped to Warp in Trek II (Kirk Takes Command)?

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   Scott M (Oldsmith)   (Member)

The TV production values, including shots of the Enterprise that looked exactly like I'd turned out the lights and held a flashlight up to the model that used to hang in my bedroom;

Nah, it looked fine.

The badly executed destruction of the Enterprise,

Nah, it was fine.

The stilted script and hamhanded, obvious attempts at comedy ("To your planet, welcome"; "I do not deserve to live" - "Fine, I'll kill you later");

Nah, they were fine.

McCoy sounding exactly like Spock in scenes that are meant to be touching but come across, despite De's fine performance, as unintentionally funny;

Nah, he was fine.

And is the name of Esteban's ship supposed to be funny? Gee, let's name it the U.S.S. Grissom and what a surprise, it's immolated just like the poor astronaut whose name is its inspiration.

Considering the respect the Trek movie guys had for astronauts and the space prgram in general, I seriously think it was meant to honor the astronaut, and that kind of tasteless humor was never part of Trek catalogue. That you'd make that connection actually says more about you than them.

You really think Star Trek III is better than what is regarded as the best Star Trek movie ever made?

The popular vote is still an opinion. Personally, while I find Trek II to be the better film, I enjoy Trek III more. Go figure.

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Oldsmith,
you da' man!
bruce

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

Question for Mr. Bulk or Mr. Kendall, were there any unexpected surprises in the music when you guys were working on it, aka the moment the Enterprise jumped to Warp in Trek II (Kirk Takes Command)?

I was surprised when I found out we got the project.

Neil

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

someone ON THIS BOARD actually believes the Trek team would MAKE A JOKE
about the tragic, DEATH OF AN APOLLO ASTRONAUT - A NATIONAL HERO???????????!!!!!!

pathetic

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 10:30 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I was surprised when I found out we got the project.

Neil




Uh . . . what's been your biggest surprise SINCE that surprise?

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 10:45 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Considering the respect the Trek movie guys had for astronauts and the space prgram in general, I seriously think it was meant to honor the astronaut . . .


I was 13 when I saw it, and it got me to look up who Gus Grissom was.

(Of course, if I'd seen "The Right Stuff" the previous year, I might not have had to do so.)

Remember, Star Trek also paid a touching tribute to the Challenger crew the next time out:



I think you'd have to say there was certainly a mutual respect between this particular entertainment franchise and the national space agency . . .

http://cumbriansky.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/20081026052204space_shuttle_enterprise_star_trek.jpg

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

I was surprised when I found out we got the project.

Neil




Uh . . . what's been your biggest surprise SINCE that surprise?


The extreme reactions.

Neil

 
 Posted:   May 27, 2010 - 11:41 PM   
 By:   OneBuckFilms   (Member)

Well, I've seen some interesting reactions wink

One thing that should NOT surprise you is the gratitude and appreciation of the work you and your colleagues put into these releases.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 12:03 AM   
 By:   Miles (MerM)   (Member)

Regarding the 2CD issue... I think people are forgetting that it was going to be 2 CDs (and therefore, $24.95) anyway. So why not maintain the album arrangement on another disc? And since Capitol/EMI are in love with their album arrangements (see: Bond reissues), it was probably necessary to get the album out (as Ford said).

In any event, I am incredibly happy that this title was announced, and you can bet your ass that it's ORDERED!

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 1:38 AM   
 By:   Stefancos   (Member)

I love that this release is coming. I love that's a 2 CD set.

Critics can go and Pon Farr themselves as far as I'm concerned! wink

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   Miles (MerM)   (Member)

And how!

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 2:27 AM   
 By:   FilmMusicFan   (Member)

@ CHRIS from S A E ... or anyone from F S M

I am already curious about the design of the BACK COVER

Could you please post it here or on the SAE website please? smile

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 3:12 AM   
 By:   Chris Rimmer   (Member)

@ CHRIS from S A E ... or anyone from F S M

I am already curious about the design of the BACK COVER

Could you please post it here or on the SAE website please? smile


Just click on the S.T.111 cover where you can see the front covers for the last 9 FSM releases.

It's at the top of the FSM Home page.

 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 4:30 AM   
 By:   Superman   (Member)

I love that this release is coming. I love that's a 2 CD set.

Critics can go and Pon Farr themselves as far as I'm concerned! wink



DAMN, that was funny! LMAO.

 
 
 Posted:   May 28, 2010 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

Regarding the 2CD issue... I think people are forgetting that it was going to be 2 CDs (and therefore, $24.95) anyway. So why not maintain the album arrangement on another disc?

I think most people are happy with that. I, for one, would prefer having less music if it means no repetition (as I said, I'd prefer 93 minutes with no repetition to 114 with some).

And since I don't have to buy it...I won't.

 
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