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Yea I tend to agree with Erik. Yes I still feel that a composer should get to truncate his score the exact way he wants for the official soundtrack CD, but I think if a year or so after each OST release, a LEGAL digital download was made available of the complete score, that would be the best of all worlds!
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And yet, there are certain cues that, for some reason, don't appear on the original album. In Star Trek - The Motion Picture, the cue "Malfunction" was not originally available and it was the cue that moved me the most in the film. In Wrath of Khan, the cue when Captain Terrell kills himself wasn't on the original release and, again, it was one of those short cues that was really moving to me. Star Trek: Insurrection has a missing cue (I believe it's called "Cloaked Ship" or something close to that) I find wonderful, but wasn't on the original album release.
So, whereas the original album is better than nothing, in many cases, obtaining the delux version (or expanded or completed) is, overall, a better experience for me. It's like spending time with an old friend and finding something new or forgotten about them all over again.
SheriffJoe
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YOR is sorry to say, but it is just ludicrous to see people defending this outrageous 45 minutes albums.
Some are the very same who jumps into complete score releases!
It makes no sense.
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OK, seriously, name a Star Trek movie whose 40 minute album was adequate for the material in the film.
The album cut of Wrath of Khan was practically perfect in every way.
Voyage Home's score barely went over 40 minutes (and that's with a ton of short stingers), so that album was just fine for its content.
Something people tend to forget with this and Giacchino's last Trek score - releasing a profitable album for scores like those isn't cheap. We're talking a 100-piece orchestra and 40-piece choir for a score that runs in excess of 100 minutes. Giacchino's longer albums didn't have the built-in fanbase Star Trek has, so a 78-minute CD for Super 8 (for example) wouldn't have broken the bank. For Trek, you can count on enough units being sold to make a longer release a losing venture (remember MV's story with the 2-disc BSG set?). A limited run of 5000 means less expensive terms, but probably not that much less (hence the many cost-cutting measures on '09's Deluxe Edition that fans love to bitch about).
In all likelihood, it was either this or nothing.
What is MV's story about the 2-disc BSG set? I've never seen that before and you've piqued my curiosity.
Part of my confusion about the longer albums is that I thought that a large part of the reason we are able to get these expanded albums is that the musician unions have different contract terms than they used to which allow for longer periods (thought I had seen that 40-45 used to be standard because thats how the unions charged and that they were more expensive for 15 minute incriments over that)
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What's to defend, exactly? They are putting out a product. We can choose to buy it or not buy it. Simple.
They have made their projections on how much they can spend on this product given their predictions of how well it will sell. They want to make money. This is their livelihood.
What would you have them do instead, Yor?
Also, in the future, is there an expanded release of this?
No, Varese just want to make a lot of money releasing a ludicrous 45 minutes album and them, a few months later, releasing a 2CD set.
This is not cool at all.
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Panda is nife person.
And YOR does not put anyone on ignore list. That is for cowards.
YOR is just pointing that a 45 minutes album for such a grand movie is just ludicrous.
Ok, Varese did not need to release a 2CD album, but at least a 60 minutes one.
There is no excuse for this.
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