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 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Nicholas Meyer and JJ Abrams were not Trek fans but their movie entries in that franchise saved it each time.

I can name exactly where THAT statement is wrong.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Im actually worried about this film suffering from Superman Returns syndrome.

In other words, the director is a massive fan boy and is just making the movie as a rehash/remake/love letter to the original and has no intention of offering anything new.

Nicholas Meyer and JJ Abrams were not Trek fans but their movie entries in that franchise saved it each time.




I'm no huge fan of Abrams' Trek movies, but quality notwithstanding, they did make Trek viable again as a film franchise, after the NG movies destroyed it.

I think Star Wars is in good hands. Abrams is not exactly a hired hand here, but he doesn't have free reign either. Lucasfilm still holds the reigns tight on all things SW, as seen by their kicking all the existing expanded universe to the curb. They make the calls on this. And, hopefully Kasdan's work on the script is on par with his Empire or Raiders work.

It looks like the plan is to give people what they want, a Star Wars movie that looks and feels like Star Wars, a key point the prequels didn't get, for the most part. It's safe to say that most fans wanted to see Luke, Han and Leia again, but Lucas turned his back on what the audience was hoping for, to tell his story. Now, the creative team is at least giving us our old friends for one film , to kick off the new series.

The internet I Know Better types dismiss this as "fan service". OK, maybe so. But isn't this what people were looking for to begin with before The Phantom Menace ? So many complainers big grin

And Abrams should give Williams more of a fair shake than Lucas did on the last 3 films. The prequel scores never lit my fire, I'm hoping this will be a return to a more thematic adventure sound, like, well, Star Wars.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Three months of recording? What LUXURY! big grin

Indeed this is unprecedented. And it tells me Abrams has thought long and hard about what he is doing. Announcement of another STAR WARS score by Williams? Yawn. Being given the widest berth possible to deliver the score and re-think it if necessary? That is beyond exciting. Abrams made him a deal he couldn't refuse and puts him in a position that few, if any, composers in film history have had. Methinks this prized possession is why he said no to Spielberg for the first time ever. If this doesn't deliver more than decent episode to this franchise, it won't be because he isn't trying (which isn't what I can say about most of the last episodes).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

Well, it's not like they're recording that whole time, though: They're just doing sections here and there. They're only at Sony this week (through Sunday the 7th), and while they did record yesterday, they did _not_ record today.

The prequel scores all took about 2-3 weeks to record, and they did it in January / February - about three months before the movies came out. It sounds to me like the main difference with the TFA score (presently six months out) is that they're recording cues slightly earlier than normal so they can keep editing with fresh music. The main advantage I see here is that if a cue gets really beaten up during a re-edit, Williams might still have time to take another shot at it, hopefully avoiding any awkward edits in the final mix.

Recording from June to September means that the process will be much more protracted, but it doesn't necessarily mean that there will be more recording dates, ultimately… in the the end, Williams could only wind up actually recording in the 10-15 day range, albeit not all at once.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 5:52 PM   
 By:   Sabreman   (Member)

I'm hoping that the rumours of at least one of the big three being killed off in The Force Unleashed turn out to be true. Then I will care even less for these new films than I do at present (I care hardly at all right now). Besides, it'll be interesting to see all the vitriol directed at Abrams for killing off a beloved character.

 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I'm hoping that the rumours of at least one of the big three being killed off in The Force Unleashed turn out to be true. Then I will care even less for these new films than I do at present (I care hardly at all right now). Besides, it'll be interesting to see all the vitriol directed at Abrams for killing off a beloved character.

gtfo

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   Bill in Portland Maine   (Member)

John Williams is recording a new Star Wars score. Holy mackerel. Holy freaking mackerel. I never thought I'd write those words again. A new Star Wars score. By John Williams. We are SO not freakin' worthy.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

I said this earlier..That Williams Wrote the Music for the Trailers...Many Doubted here...And I wish You Gurls..would relax about the rehash business...IT seems you Gurls are never happy about nothing. Usual Suspects. John Williams is Writing New Themes Also...Wow....

And One More Time....John Williams was never Sick. This all had to do with scheduling. Even on LSO Facebook Page...in March..The LSO was in LA...and John Williams was Conducting the LSO...and even the major players..said on their blog site...It was all about Scheduling...Nothing Else.




Nothing in there says Williams wrote new music for the trailer.
He did for the first one, as has been officially announced.

But all your speculations are just this, speculations.
They won't be any more likely when you post them again and again and again.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   Matt S.   (Member)



Nothing in there says Williams wrote new music for the trailer.
He did for the first one, as has been officially announced.

But all your speculations are just this, speculations.
They won't be any more likely when you post them again and again and again.


The second sentence of the third paragraph: "Williams tackled earlier recordings for both trailers, with the second trailer being released several weeks ago to add to the mounting excitement around Star Wars VII."

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)



Nothing in there says Williams wrote new music for the trailer.
He did for the first one, as has been officially announced.

But all your speculations are just this, speculations.
They won't be any more likely when you post them again and again and again.


The second sentence of the third paragraph: "Williams tackled earlier recordings for both trailers, with the second trailer being released several weeks ago to add to the mounting excitement around Star Wars VII."


"Recordings" , or do I not understand correctly, is something else than "composing" or "writing".

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   alexp   (Member)

It's starting to look like Williams is scoring—writing the music and recording with the orchestra-- the movie in batches of scenes with each batch given to him between stretches of time. Meaning, Williams will get a batch of scenes to complete. When he is finished with the batch, sometime will go by and he’ll get another batch of scenes to work on (score and record), and then, sometime later he’ll get another batch and so on.

And, it’s not the first time he worked this way. He did it with Superman (1978). If you look on the recording logs for that film's recording sessions , you’ll notice that they were made on July, September, October, and November of 1978 using this same procedure.

In fact, this procedure dates back to the old Hollywood studio system days. To name one film, Ben-Hur (1959). The Miklos Rozsa score was recorded during 1959 on the months of January (for the marches), May, June, July, August, and October.

So, the filmmakers of Star Wars VII are taking an epic approach, here.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 2, 2015 - 8:50 PM   
 By:   Adam S   (Member)

With regard to the question of new Williams music, it would be different if somebody in the vast universe of Star Wars fans knew where the new music came from. I would credit them for a great job editing images to music in Teaser 2. Given that no one has come forward, though, the more reasonable interpretation is that he wrote new music and that would explain why it sounds just like John Williams and works perfectly with the images, just like usual. This of course being combined with earlier recordings. I think Mike is one of the few people who isn't hearing it. Not really a question mark in my mind.

- Adam

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 4:43 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

First pictures of the recording sessions are here :

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/06/behind-the-scenes-pictures-from-john-williams-recent-scoring-session-for-star-wars-the-force-awakens/

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

First pictures of the recording sessions are here :

http://makingstarwars.net/2015/06/behind-the-scenes-pictures-from-john-williams-recent-scoring-session-for-star-wars-the-force-awakens/


Interesting... no string section (at least based off of the session players list)?

Chris

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

From the JKMS twitter


Getting ready for day 2. #starwars #JohnWilliams



https://twitter.com/JKMSlibrary/status/606306051349082112

This is all so exciting!

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Anyone else notice that there are absolutely NO PICTURES of Williams conducting??? Is someone else conducting the score this time?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 10:26 AM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

It's possible. Williams was unable to conduct the Boston Pops for his annual concerts there less then 2 weeks ago because of back problems.

Artie Kane conducted some sessions for Jurassic Park in 93 because JW's back gave out.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 10:48 AM   
 By:   scoringsessions   (Member)

Anyone else notice that there are absolutely NO PICTURES of Williams conducting??? Is someone else conducting the score this time?

Wiliams is conducting; there are probably no pictures of him because photos are not supposed to be allowed and he'd definitely notice if a cellphone camera was pointed his way.

 
 Posted:   Jun 4, 2015 - 11:14 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Anyone else notice that there are absolutely NO PICTURES of Williams conducting??? Is someone else conducting the score this time?

Wiliams is conducting; there are probably no pictures of him because photos are not supposed to be allowed and he'd definitely notice if a cellphone camera was pointed his way.


You say that, and yet from what I read on the internet, Michael Giacchino is helping him, and the film is going to be released next week.

 
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