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so, has anybody complained yet that a certain cue is 'missing ' from both versions? bruce
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Jun 10, 2013 - 1:46 PM
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Mr Greg
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It's OK...still can't judge much without seeing the film, but it's OK...not remarkable, not awful...some of it quite enjoyable, rarely dreary...but all true judgement is off until I hear it in context with open mind. That's very honorable! Almost unheard of for users of the FSM messages boards. I hope the music mix is great, but Snyder's films are batting 4 out of 4 in that technical department. Despite the quality of his films, his use of music is fantastic! Well, not unheard of maybe ...but important to give these things a chance, eh? And to remember that their primary purpose is to be part of a whole. As I indicated earlier, the idea of a Zimmer "Superman" score makes my piss boil, but gotta give it the chance. As for Snyder's use of music and mixing in films, I don't agree with your "4 out of 4", but as always if we all had the same tastes it would be a boring world ....still immensely looking forward to Man of Steel, despite much trepidation.
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Just finished listening to this on Spotify for the first time and I agree, it's a decent listening experience and some parts of it are great and very adrenaline pumping. The fact there was such a big drum ensemble used is cool, but honestly I don't hear a huge difference compared to TDK in the final mix. It still sounds very synthesized. I think in the film the score will work great and it makes me excited to see it this weekend. However, I kept thinking to myself when listening to this, how would John Powell have scored this if given the chance? HTTYD is one of my favorite new scores and the flight cues from that are spectacular. This is a new Superman and we definitely get a new sound and I would rate this as good, but not great. It will definitely get some heavy rotation in my playlist this week. Looking forward to hearing the deluxe edition tomorrow... The trailer music gives me the same goosebumps as Powell's "Death & Transfiguration" cue from Hancock....so I hope for more like that.
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I'm not Zimmer's number one fan but there's some good tracks here from what I'm hearing on the samples Look To The Stars Sent Here For a Reason Goodbye My Son This Is Clark Kent have a moody, atmospheric feel to them which I like. The more bombastic tracks are not really to my taste but I've heard a lot worse. I look forward to seeing how it all works in the film.
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I share your enthusiasm for MoS. This also makes me wonder how many categories of Williams fans exist according to a "Zimmer scale". E.g. 1) talibans (throw Zimmer on a pyre) 2) uncompromising fans (love music but Zimmer since Zimmer is not music) 3) condescending fans (despise Zimmer but not too much) 4) open-minded (Zimmer is not that bad though Williams is unbeatable) 5) neutral (love Zimmer as much as Williams) 6) heretics (left Williams for the dark side of music, or just for new and more modern music dimension) This makes no sense, agent Dunham. YOR is VERY open minded. He can like Goldsmith, North, Williams, Shore, Morricone, Carpenter, Vangelis, Doyle, Poledouris, Horner, Rosza, Mancini, Silvestri, Sarde, BaƱos, Beltrami, Tyler, Giacchino, Conti, Bernstein, Goldenthal, Hisaishi, Kamen... But still are not able to stand Zimmer and his unbereable wall of sounds.
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Yes, when he retires!
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However, I kept thinking to myself when listening to this, how would John Powell have scored this if given the chance? Well, if Powell was given full creative freedom it might sound more like X-Men 3. But most likely Snyder and Nolan would ask him for something more along the lines of United 93. -Erik- So true..."In this scene we need more droning please..." You know I've come to love Powell's scores for How to Train Your Dragon, Bolt, and Kung Fu Panda (with Zimmer). I have tried, but I cannot get into X-3. Listening to MoS. Not looking at track titles much, but I'm pretty sure I'm in the Krypton stuff. The Superman theme is definitely in there. It's good. But I made the mistake of listening to Superman and Superman II yesterday. It's not a question of good or bad. I think Zimmer's score is going to be awesome in the movie. But I don't think that high orchestras and high school bands will be playing this thirty five years from now. Zimmer's score is just such a different animal than Williams'. They don't try to exist in the same space.
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I bought one track off of iTunes which features music from the trailer. It's a wall of sound and loud to my ears. It's not making want to buy the rest of the score to be quite honest. And this isn't comparing to Williams' original. I think Zimmer has done better himself than this. The drum corps featuring all those talented players just sounds like they were all playing the same patterns in unison. Brian Tyler's infinitely more enjoyable Now You See Me has better and more complex rhythmic patterns and that's only one guy. Still wanting to see this film but with cautious optimism. I wish Snyder had gone with someone like Jonny Greenwood if he wanted a score that diverged from Williams' original.
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