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 Posted:   Jun 5, 2014 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

Epix just aired Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964, not the 90s version). I hadn't seen it in many moons. I caught the finale.

Okay, if you want something to really complain about in a Godzilla movie, this is it.

Godzilla gets owned at the end by two giant larvae. They hose him down with endless streams of silk and they don't seem to be affected too greatly by his atomic breath or the huge boulders he hurls at them with his tail. Granted, there's an element of magic at play, but it's not even a battle.

And just like at the end of the next movie (Godzilla vs. Monster Zero, the first appearance of King Ghidorah), Godzilla ends up rolling off a cliff into the ocean, making a huge splash before the larvae swim back to the mainland. Bad writing all around.


That was the first G movie that I ever hated. It came out when I was 9 and it was titled here as Godzilla vs The Thing. I was furious at the idea that the larvae were impervious to G’s ray/spray. I guess I should watch it again to give it a fair chance.
But you have to remember that as popular as G was in Japan, he wasn’t necessarily #1 there. There was quite the fascination with King Kong. Like millions of others I went for years believing the myth of the two different endings of KKvG, only to find out that only King Kong was originally portrayed as the winner, at least in that Godzilla didn’t resurface after the fall into the water. When you look at G’s fight record it really isn’t that impressive.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2014 - 7:10 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Epix just aired Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964, not the 90s version). I hadn't seen it in many moons. I caught the finale.

Okay, if you want something to really complain about in a Godzilla movie, this is it.

Godzilla gets owned at the end by two giant larvae. They hose him down with endless streams of silk and they don't seem to be affected too greatly by his atomic breath or the huge boulders he hurls at them with his tail. Granted, there's an element of magic at play, but it's not even a battle.

And just like at the end of the next movie (Godzilla vs. Monster Zero, the first appearance of King Ghidorah), Godzilla ends up rolling off a cliff into the ocean, making a huge splash before the larvae swim back to the mainland. Bad writing all around.


I'll take larva and silly string any day over the recent final which was so shamefully lame for a 2014 film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2014 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO EACH ONE'S OWN , but I believe, but of course you can disagree, that viewpoints should have some degree of compromising logic. It just makes the person look more intelligent and approachable within a discussion. Since I was young I always got a kick out of ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT WOMAN-58. just always found it fun to watch. But in my wisdom I knew no matter how much I like it[I NOW] I knew it was limited in talent, creativity etc. If I would rate the film I would after saying it is a warm enjoyable film to me , give it maybe 2 stars, because I knew and was honest with myself when it came to a critique. Maybe you find GODZILLA'S REVENGE OR GAMMERA, OR MONSTER ZERO wonderful fun entertainment. But how can you compare in critical manner them to the immense talent involved with the new Godzilla film. I can't really understand that. Let me give another example- baseball fans. I remember years ago there were a bunch of fans who on SATURDAY afternoons would come down to watch softball games being played in Central park in New York and they would say. You know I am getting tired of watching Major league baseball games, I enjoy coming down here and watching these games more. We understood but I said to him they surely are not as good players as the major league players. He said, OF COURSE NOT. You see it is not I am disagreeing with people's opinions as much as how they maybe are saying their opinions Not being honest with themselves what you like is not the same as what you think is good. With again the wise comment there is a difference between an opinion and a learner opinion.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2014 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

DELETE.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2014 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Since I was young I always got a kick out of ATTACK OF THE 50 FOOT WOMAN-58. just always found it fun to watch. But in my wisdom I knew no matter how much I like it[I NOW] I knew it was limited in talent, creativity etc. If I would rate the film I would after saying it is a warm enjoyable film to me , give it maybe 2 stars, because I knew and was honest with myself when it came to a critique. Maybe you find GODZILLA'S REVENGE OR GAMMERA, OR MONSTER ZERO wonderful fun entertainment. But how can you compare in critical manner them to the immense talent involved with the new Godzilla film. I can't really understand that.

I am basing my expectations on what they could do then and what they can do now. The artistry, talent and creativity was superior in those older films for what they could do at that time. The new movie failed to deliver a monster fight that meets my expectations for a 2014 film. Of course with fresh eyes those old Zilla movies were silly. As a kid they were cool and exciting. This new film with current technology failed to deliver an exciting climax.

 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2014 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Epix just aired Godzilla vs. Mothra (1964, not the 90s version). I hadn't seen it in many moons. I caught the finale.

Okay, if you want something to really complain about in a Godzilla movie, this is it.

Godzilla gets owned at the end by two giant larvae. They hose him down with endless streams of silk and they don't seem to be affected too greatly by his atomic breath or the huge boulders he hurls at them with his tail. Granted, there's an element of magic at play, but it's not even a battle.

And just like at the end of the next movie (Godzilla vs. Monster Zero, the first appearance of King Ghidorah), Godzilla ends up rolling off a cliff into the ocean, making a huge splash before the larvae swim back to the mainland. Bad writing all around.


That was the first G movie that I ever hated. It came out when I was 9 and it was titled here as Godzilla vs The Thing. I was furious at the idea that the larvae were impervious to G’s ray/spray. I guess I should watch it again to give it a fair chance.


I remembered the ending, but having seen it again, it makes no sense why Godzilla just stands there and lets them jizz all over him like that. He doesn't even run or dive for the water. And for crawlers, the larviks move impressively fast, LOL. But the atomic breath having no effect is an eyeroll because minutes earlier, G was melting metal on contact with it. It was funny to watch, but it's obvious G could've gotten out of that (this was before he was able to "pulse" blasts, as well).
You'd think those f**king slugs could whup Ghidorah, too. LOL.

But you have to remember that as popular as G was in Japan, he wasn’t necessarily #1 there. There was quite the fascination with King Kong. Like millions of others I went for years believing the myth of the two different endings of KKvG, only to find out that only King Kong was originally portrayed as the winner, at least in that Godzilla didn’t resurface after the fall into the water. When you look at G’s fight record it really isn’t that impressive.

I understand the Japanese ending of KKvG added Godzilla's roar at the very end, to suggest the battle would hypothetically continue. King Kong's very popular, but a match-up's silly because they're not supposed to be anywhere near the same size. Even the '76 Kong, who was bigger, wouldn't be as big as Godzilla. And all G would have to do is fry his simian gonads.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 5, 2014 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I understand the Japanese ending of KKvG added Godzilla's roar at the very end, to suggest the battle would hypothetically continue.


The roars of both creatures appear at the end. First G's, then KK's.

 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

[quote]The roars of both creatures appear at the end. First G's, then KK's.

Curse it, now this has relit the fire of desire in me for an original Japanese version of KKvG (Kingu Kongu tai Gojira) but don’t know of a reliable resource. Sumogorilla does a made-to-order DVR version and a seller on ebay offers an “original” but some reviewers on youtube have indicated that it may be a boot (not sure if it’s the same seller, though).
Anyone know of a trustworthy seller offering a legit version?
Will Toho release it sometime soon?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Saw it a second time and I loved it even more. a fantastic genre film that delivers the goods in nearly every way.Seeing it a second time it really is a wonderful suspenseful monster/war epic worth checking out.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 6, 2014 - 8:34 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Curse it, now this has relit the fire of desire in me for an original Japanese version of KKvG (Kingu Kongu tai Gojira) but don’t know of a reliable resource. Sumogorilla does a made-to-order DVR version and a seller on ebay offers an “original” but some reviewers on youtube have indicated that it may be a boot (not sure if it’s the same seller, though).
Anyone know of a trustworthy seller offering a legit version?
Will Toho release it sometime soon?



Jackfu, you might want to consider looking into this:

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2014 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

I'm sorry to report that I liked this film less than I expected to and less than I would have liked. frown It had all the ingredients but failed to put them together quite right. Between this and X-Men I can't help but wonder whether I'm actually seeing the same movies everyone else is seeing.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 9, 2014 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Looking at the update on GODZILLA -THIS IS WHAT THEY LIST, SO FAR-Domestic gross-over 185 million, worldwide gross-over 393 million- total-0ver 578 million- budget- 225 million-still to come CHINA and JAPAN- So the experts can figure it out will it be profitable or not. Apparently a sequel is on the way.

 
 Posted:   Jun 10, 2014 - 7:26 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Just to be exact, the worldwide gross so far is $394,666,351, and that includes North America. The movie's domestic take is $185,966,351.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

GODZILLA has the best opening of any film in CHINA IN 2014.So as I say again the experts can decide the final outcome, profit or not? But one thing we can be pretty sure of ,you can't say the film will be a flop.On with the sequel.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

To DROP FORGE- Any wise comments to make?

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   cirithungol   (Member)

Solium's break-even estimate must be somewhere around a billion by now, surely wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   tomandshell   (Member)

The CEO of Legendary says their break even point is $450 million and they are currently at $439. They will get there. A sequel seems likely but not inevitable.

I enjoyed the score.

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Godzilla's worldwide gross is now at $439,601,000 after its first weekend in China. Japan next month!

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=godzilla2012.htm

Tom: there will not be a sequel. There will be two sequels. wink

Also, Godzilla is still in the US Top 10, holding at 7th after 5 weeks of release!

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   drop_forge   (Member)

Solium's break-even estimate must be somewhere around a billion by now, surely wink

I think it's amazing that a Godzilla movie will likely gross a half-billion dollars worldwide. Factor in the eventual DVD sales and it's exceeded expectations, by far!

 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2014 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

The CEO of Legendary says their break even point is $450 million and they are currently at $439. They will get there. A sequel seems likely but not inevitable.

I enjoyed the score.


Yep, pretty much what I said. So they gotta hope DVD/Streaming sales makes them a profit. So where does the funding come for a second film?

 
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