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Jun 28, 2010 - 11:13 PM
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Ron Pulliam
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The mere fact that there have been this many posts about the extra content and price of this release have proven my point. It's sad that this magnificent score has been priced out of reach of many people who have helped Varese survive all these years by religiously buying their albums - me included. This manuever by Varese has taken the gloss off of what would have otherwise been a tremendous gesture to fans of this score and all great film music. But, as others have posted, Varese has never been all that "fan friendly".
I find it amusing that many of the people who have ordered made a point of saying that even they think at least two or three of the discs are unnecessary.
Lastly I speculate that if this release had been done by MY favorite soundtrack CD company, FSM, they wouldn't have pulled this stunt. They DO seem to give a damn about film music fans.
I'm sorry, but the naysayers in this thread DON'T constitute many buyers for Varese. It's eight pages of posts by a smallish number of people, none of whom (pro or con) constitute a huge loss in profit margin for this particular release.
Truth is, though, that the set is wondrous in concept, should be a marvel to own and will sell. It's a crown jewel of a score dressed up to be the crown jewel in any collection.
Varese won't be subject to a massive backlash of outrage and won't be forced to reduce the price and won't toss out two CDs and a DVD just to please a handful of folks.
The real truth here is that for just about every new release, "fans"...for some reason or other...get bent out of shape over any number of things -- that too few were printed, or too many were printed, that there is not enough music on it, that there is too much music on it, or that it should have been this/should have been that/they should have considered the fans, meaning a handful of complainers but, by and large, never the majority.
"Spartacus", as it turns out, is not an exception to that real truth.
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Jun 28, 2010 - 11:39 PM
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waxmanman35
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The real truth here, is that for just about every new release, "fans"...for some reason or other...get bent out of shape over any numberof things -- that too few were printed, or too many were printed, that there is not enough music on it, that there is too much music on it, or that it should have been this/should have been that/they should have considered the fans, meaning a handful of complainers but, by and large, never the majority.
"Spartacus", as it turns out, is not an exception to that real truth.
I think many of the complaints were that the set is too expensive. That's certainly a legitimate grievance in these troubled economic times. It limits this music to the people with disposable income, and of course to those who will copy it for friends. Being something of a cynic, I think that the extra discs of "Varinia" variations, the interviews, etc. are possibly an egregious means of ratcheting up the price of the set. I've already stated that I bought the set, but I feel for those who can't.
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Jun 29, 2010 - 12:07 AM
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Sarge
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It's sad that this magnificent score has been priced out of reach of many people who have helped Varese survive all these years by religiously buying their albums - me included.
Oh my GOD - the ingratitude! The ingratitude!
Yeah, you "helped" Varese survive all these years out of the kindness of your heart - not because they created product you wanted to purchase. Get off your high horse and stop acting like Mother Theresa.
This manuever by Varese has taken the gloss off of what would have otherwise been a tremendous gesture to fans of this score and all great film music. But, as others have posted, Varese has never been all that "fan friendly".
Right... it's a "maneuver" by Varese to disenfranchise you - because there's so much profit to be made in disenfranchising film score fans!
As I stated earlier, perhaps this creeping paranoia is a sad byproduct of our current economic climate, but do the math. This set was undoubtedly expensive to produce, and Varese is entitled to make a profit - however small or however large that profit may be.
And what came first, the chicken or the egg? Perhaps Varese isn't "fan friendly" because they read one too many smug, childish, ungrateful, uninformed statements like yours.
Lastly I speculate that if this release had been done by MY favorite soundtrack CD company, FSM, they wouldn't have pulled this stunt. They DO seem to give a damn about film music fans.
Ah, I see. Your entire rant was actually a sycophantic love poem to FSM.
Can someone please explain to me how a record label can produce a lavish box set of the complete score of SPARTACUS, yet somehow it's a "stunt" and they don't give a damn about film music fans?
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Jun 29, 2010 - 12:53 AM
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Nexus6BT
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No doubt about it; this is an absolutely terrific release; I just hope I'm able to afford it soon. My one major caveat is the same as many others'. Even accounting for the popularity of the Love Theme over the years (and its long history of different interpretations), 2 full CDs of variations on it does seem a little excessive. With such a complex score, why not a few interpretations of some of the other themes? (I'd love to hear what Joel McNeely would do with the Main Title, or maybe Patrick Doyle's take on the Vesuvius Camp fanfare.)
At any rate, I hate to join the complaining, as I'm glad this release is possible. And again, I hope to get it before it's gone, but I had no idea it would be so expensive (although, as many have stated the price is reasonable for what we're getting), so we'll see.
That said, I actually am very interested in the documentary. And the score is an unquestionable masterpiece, so I'm glad it's been given such a grand treatment. And Varese can do what they want to; they don't owe anyone anything. But it would be nice if at some point they were to release a smaller, more affordable package for those who just want the score.
Reservations aside, congrats to Mr. Townson on the realization of his dream!
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