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 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 10:16 PM   
 By:   Drawgoon   (Member)

I am very eager to hear "Beyond the Forest" in full now.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2013 - 11:53 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Pope conducted parts of Jurassic Park. I bet you can't tell which bits.

No he didn't. Artie Kane conducted sessions of Jurassic Park because John Williams had a back problem.
Conrad Pope wasn't working yet for Mr Williams in 1993.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 12:14 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Pope conducted parts of Jurassic Park. I bet you can't tell which bits.

No he didn't. Artie Kane conducted sessions of Jurassic Park because John Williams had a back problem.
Conrad Pope wasn't working yet for Mr Williams in 1993.


You're absolutely right, it was Artie Kane! Big oops. But my point stands I guess. I bet it doesn't affect anyone's enjoyment of the score.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2013 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Sounds very promising and even the recording is also much clearer. lets hope the regular OST doesnt have much different choices than the previous outings.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 2:28 AM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

An entire standard album (minus the song) is now available to listen here.

http://www.warnerbros2013.com/film.php?film=hobbit#

Karol

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 4:00 AM   
 By:   Machionic   (Member)

Yeah, judging by the FYC page sound quality is good.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 4:36 AM   
 By:   crocodile   (Member)

Well, it's 320 kbps mp3.

It's a strange move by the studio, to be honest...

Karol

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Machionic   (Member)

Sure, but I meant album mastering and compression. It's definitely better this time.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

An entire standard album (minus the song) is now available to listen here.

http://www.warnerbros2013.com/film.php?film=hobbit#

Karol


There's no score to listen to frown

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Weird. They took it down. I was listening to it not 10 minutes ago.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Weird. They took it down. I was listening to it not 10 minutes ago.

Well it's out there in the ether now... you can find it by looking up the individual tracks on youtube.

Chris.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

I just finished listening to the full score. The first half of the score is a little meandering and slightly underwhelming, though I had the same reaction to An Unexpected Journey, initially. But the final third, covering the confrontation with Smaug is just absolutely stellar. The asian percussion and gongs that are added to represent the dragon are an entirely new flavour for Middle Earth's sonic palette and are wonderful. The recording quality is, as mentioned earlier, superb. The only odd thing is the complete absence of the "Misty Mountains" theme that was so prominent in AUJ. Over at at JWFAN, they are speculating that this material may just be tracked into the film... we shall see...

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   bdm   (Member)

I have also just finished a listen, and it's what I would expect from Shore and Middle-Earth. Looking forward to buying this "in the flesh" on the 10th, and listening to it again then.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

duplicate

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

The only odd thing is the complete absence of the "Misty Mountains" theme that was so prominent in AUJ. Over at at JWFAN, they are speculating that this material may just be tracked into the film... we shall see...

Chris.


The Misty Mountains theme was very prominent in the final portion of the first film, used throughout the big action finale. However if I remember right it only appeared once in the score on the album, after the vocal version towards the beginning. As the tune wasn't written by Shore, I assume there was some reason behind its almost complete absence on the album.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2013 - 8:56 PM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

Conrad Pope wasn't working yet for Mr Williams in 1993.

Pope co-orchestrated R9P1 The Falling Car with John Neufield.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 6:01 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

The only odd thing is the complete absence of the "Misty Mountains" theme that was so prominent in AUJ. Over at at JWFAN, they are speculating that this material may just be tracked into the film... we shall see...

Chris.


The Misty Mountains theme was very prominent in the final portion of the first film, used throughout the big action finale. However if I remember right it only appeared once in the score on the album, after the vocal version towards the beginning. As the tune wasn't written by Shore, I assume there was some reason behind its almost complete absence on the album.


On the album, it appears at least twice (during the dwarf party's attack on the trolls during "Roast Mutton," and the grand statement during "Over Hill," the party's evacuation from Rivendell). I want to say that there is at least one more full statement during "Brass Buttons" or "Out of the Frying Pan," and I believe it is also hinted at several times before that on disc 1, prior any of the full orchestral statements. I'm not the expert on The Hobbit score (there are people at JWFan who I'm sure will have more accurate information than this), but I do believe it was well represented on album.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 7:51 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Well from what I heard this has more lyrical consistency. The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey wandered and cues devolved. Desolation of Smaug at least flows better, though there is still a great deal of meandering underscore. The Hobbit over all doesn't have the thematic strength of the LOTR's.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Well from what I heard this has more lyrical consistency. The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey wandered and cues devolved. Desolation of Smaug at least flows better, though there is still a great deal of meandering underscore. The Hobbit over all doesn't have the thematic strength of the LOTR's.

I completely agree with this. The two Hobbit scores thus far are both very good, but not up to the level of the phenomenal original trilogy. The biggest missing element is a strong memorable theme for Bilbo... he definitely does have a theme, but I really struggle to remember it! I also keep feeling that the themes haven't really taken off, as though Shore is holding back, waiting for some big dramatic statement of them in the final film. It doesn't help that our first exposure to these scores is in the two-disk editions, which makes is harder to identify thematic material as compared with the initial single-disk highlight albums of the original trilogy.

I do have to give Shore top marks for how organically the Hobbit scores blend with the original trilogy scores. I found, when listening to Desolation of Smaug that I would hear repeated motifs and I had to really think hard to recall whether it originated in An Unexpected Journey or the original trilogy.

Chris

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2013 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Well from what I heard this has more lyrical consistency. The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey wandered and cues devolved. Desolation of Smaug at least flows better, though there is still a great deal of meandering underscore. The Hobbit over all doesn't have the thematic strength of the LOTR's.

I completely agree with this. The two Hobbit scores thus far are both very good, but not up to the level of the phenomenal original trilogy. The biggest missing element is a strong memorable theme for Bilbo... he definitely does have a theme, but I really struggle to remember it! I also keep feeling that the themes haven't really taken off, as though Shore is holding back, waiting for some big dramatic statement of them in the final film. It doesn't help that our first exposure to these scores is in the two-disk editions, which makes is harder to identify thematic material as compared with the initial single-disk highlight albums of the original trilogy.

I do have to give Shore top marks for how organically the Hobbit scores blend with the original trilogy scores. I found, when listening to Desolation of Smaug that I would hear repeated motifs and I had to really think hard to recall whether it originated in An Unexpected Journey or the original trilogy.

Chris


Agreed. For me The Hobbit is more like an average Hollywood film series in style, and sadly the scores are taking the same sonic background approach of modern film scores. It's missing strong individual character themes, and the grander of the LOTR's. Very little stands out.

 
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