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Jan 17, 2014 - 10:49 PM
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Josh
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Are you saying that the examples given at
http://www.amazon.de/Hot-Rod-Rumble-Murder-Inc/dp/B00GSWL1FM
are different from what you heard on the CD?
Those online examples of HOT ROD RUMBLE are stereo, without a doubt.
If I receive my CD of this, and it is NOT stereo, I will be furious. It's the only reason I bought it!
I just listened to those online samples through headphones, and call me crazy (or ignorant, or uninformed, or whatever), but they sound like spread-out mono as well, same as the CD. There is no separation of instruments from one side to the other. I remove one earphone and hear the same balance of instruments that I hear through the other earphone, and vice versa. With both earphones on, it sounds likes it's coming from the center rather than from both sides.
Besides, if it is in true stereo, wouldn't they advertise it as such on the back insert like they did on two of the other releases in this series?
Nevertheless, either way, it sounds good and is well worth picking up.
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Jan 18, 2014 - 9:30 AM
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Doug Raynes
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Are you saying that the examples given at
http://www.amazon.de/Hot-Rod-Rumble-Murder-Inc/dp/B00GSWL1FM
are different from what you heard on the CD?
Those online examples of HOT ROD RUMBLE are stereo, without a doubt.
If I receive my CD of this, and it is NOT stereo, I will be furious. It's the only reason I bought it!
I just listened to those online samples through headphones, and call me crazy (or ignorant, or uninformed, or whatever), but they sound like spread-out mono as well, same as the CD. There is no separation of instruments from one side to the other. I remove one earphone and hear the same balance of instruments that I hear through the other earphone, and vice versa. With both earphones on, it sounds likes it's coming from the center rather than from both sides.
Besides, if it is in true stereo, wouldn't they advertise it as such on the back insert like they did on two of the other releases in this series?
Nevertheless, either way, it sounds good and is well worth picking up.
Not my sort of music but I thought I'd listen to hear what I make of it.
Jim is correct. It's definitely STEREO. There is absolutely separation of instruments.
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Jan 19, 2014 - 7:10 PM
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Jim Doherty
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Thank you Doug Raynes for vindicating my views! I couldn't believe the amount of criticism that said the samples were mono!
I don't know if it's the age of mp3 we live in or what, or if many people on this board do not even know what "mono" or "stereo" means," but, for God's sake, those HOT ROD RUMBLE samples are STEREO! Can you all NOT hear how certain instruments are in one channel, and some in another? As I said, I'll wait until I get my actual CD of this before giving my final vote, but REALLY, if several of you think those samples are NOT stereo, you're either listening through poor internet engines, or don't know what mono vs. stereo sounds like.
I don't mean to drag this thing out, but when I hear people saying the HOT ROD RUMBLE samples are mono, what can I do? They are obviously stereo!
That's all, until I receive the CD.
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I'm listening with crappy headphones on a laptop and those HRR samples are clearly stereo. The separation is quite obvious. Sign up for that transplant, Josh. 
Thanks for pointing out these releases. Are the discs pressed?
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Jan 20, 2014 - 4:39 PM
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Bob DiMucci
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I just received my CD of HOT ROD RUMBLE and took a listen to it through headphones. I have to say that the HRR tracks sound just like the mono MURDER, INC. tracks elsewhere on the CD. Neither have any stereo spread. To make sure that it wasn't my ears or my headphones, I put on my old Mainstream CD of Bernstein's THE CARETAKERS, which has some similar jazz tracks. That has HUGE stereo spread compared to anything on the HRR disc. I guess different people will hear different things, but if this discussion had never come up, I would have listened to the HRR tracks, concluded that they were mono, and let it go at that. To my ears, it's mono. Good mono, though--brighter (and certainly mastered louder) than THE CARETAKERS.
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Jan 20, 2014 - 4:53 PM
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Josh
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I just received my CD of HOT ROD RUMBLE and took a listen to it through headphones. I have to say that the HRR tracks sound just like the mono MURDER, INC. tracks elsewhere on the CD. Neither have any stereo spread. To make sure that it wasn't my ears or my headphones, I put on my old Mainstream CD of Bernstein's THE CARETAKERS, which has some similar jazz tracks. That has HUGE stereo spread compared to anything on the HRR disc. I guess different people will hear different things, but if this discussion had never come up, I would have listened to the HRR tracks, assumed that they were mono, and let it go at that. To my ears, it's mono. Good mono, though--brighter (and certainly mastered louder) than THE CARETAKERS.
Whew. Thanks for chiming in, Bob. I thought maybe I was going deaf or something.
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Jan 21, 2014 - 12:29 PM
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Jim Doherty
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Aw crap!!! How could I not have noticed that those amazon sample tracks were NOT Hot Rod Rumble! I feel REALLY stupid right around now. I just got my HOT ROD RUMBLE CD today, and was so disappointed when it was obviously mono. So I went back to listen to the amazon clips again, and I suddenly realized, "Yep, these clips are stereo. BUT, hey wait, this ain't HOT ROD RUMBLE!" I came to the board to post this, only to see that Bob had already caught this and explained it.
Anyway... so much for the whole hope of HOT ROD RUMBLE being in stereo. Sorry for all the confusion I might have started with my earlier posts, but I was going off the samples on amazon, which ARE stereo, but AREN'T really from HOT ROD RUMBLE.
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Jan 21, 2014 - 2:24 PM
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Bob DiMucci
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Because the Amazon clips are only 30 seconds long, it's not immediately apparent that those samples for HRR don't appear on the HHR CD. I had to go back and forth between the HRR CD, the HHR webpage, the CC webpage, and my CC LP before I finally figured it all out.
But I have to say that a week ago, when I played the first "HRR" sample on the web page, I said to myself "I've heard this theme before." At that time, I just figured that I had heard the HRR main theme on YouTube or somewhere else online. It didn't dawn on me that I recognized it from my CC LP, which I haven't played in years.
So, where does the Fresh Sounds website come off calling HRR a stereo release?
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This now sounds like a series to avoid. Darn.
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Jan 21, 2014 - 8:45 PM
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Josh
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This now sounds like a series to avoid. Darn.
I don't see how you can blame Fresh Sounds for the fact that Amazon.de screwed up its website, or for the heightened expectations caused by Amazon's error. The HOT ROD RUMBLE CD itself does not contain any indication that it is in stereo.
I didn't see this on their site until Doug posted the link above, but the product description on Fresh Sounds' website states as follows:
Tracks #1-14, from HOT ROD RUMBLE (1957)
STEREO Reissue for the first time ever!
Music by Alexander (Sandy) Courage
Originally issued on Liberty LRP-3048
That's what made me finally begin to doubt my ears (and knowledge of what stereo recordings of b-movie soundtracks from that era might sound like, being totally unfamiliar with the movie and its score before this release). I was convinced from the first listen that what I was hearing on the CD was mono, but after reading that, I thought, well heck, if it IS stereo, it's the narrowest stereo spread I've ever heard!
A comedy of errors, indeed. Again, however, even though it's mono, it sounds great and the music is really fun, so to those on the fence about getting it, don't dismiss it outright just because it's mono (unless you're allergic to mono). As a matter of fact, even though it is mono, it's still listenable through headphones, and I can't say that about most mono releases.
P.S. For those who bought the CD expecting HOT ROD RUMBLE to be in stereo based on the information given on the website and/or the incorrect samples on amazon.de, I totally understand your disappointment.
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