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 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 2:38 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

I feel pity for Broughton. For some strange reason this nominated song wasn't likable. There has been wrong choices in the past. There was no need to disqualified.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 2:54 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

...and from the The Hollywood Reporter....Scott Feinberg who cannot figure out who won Best Score in 1985...We all know that John Barry won for Out of Africa...but Scott Feinberg from THR write that...


Ah, well ...

Did Barry win at the 1985 academy awards or the 1986 academy awards which were honouring 1985 films?

How does the accepted lingo go?

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 6:24 AM   
 By:   LEONCIO   (Member)

For the same reasons, all nominations of films produced by Harvey Weinstein, should have been disqualified. Sassy requests Mr. Weinstein to Academy members , asking them to take into account his movies are really outrageous . Nominations which won "Silver Linings Playbook " , thanks to the "good intentions" of Mr. Weinstein, is a good example , so that they were disqualified.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   Mark Ford   (Member)

FYI, from Bruce Broughton's FaceBook page:

"What's on my mind? The mess of this afternoon's news and the positive responses of so many friends. If you want to really vent your feelings in a positive way, one that transcends your lovely notes to me, you can let the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences know.

How do I feel? I feel as though I'm the butt of a campaign to discredit a song, the nomination of which caught people by surp...rise. As many of you have noted, the campaigning on the other songs is epic compared to my simple email note. The marketing abilities of the other companies before and after the nomination far outstrip anything that this song was able to benefit from.

We learned this morning that the song will appear on Billboard's charts shortly. Somebody's listening to it. Somebody likes it.

But most of all, I feel sullied, and I feel disappointed not only for me, but for Dennis Spiegel, who wrote a lovely (and although hardly anyone has noticed), truly ecumenical lyric which helped drive the story in the film, and for the unassailable Joni Eareckson, whose vocal on the song breathed real life into it.

So, if you're really upset by this miserable turn of events, I appreciate your notes enormously (I also read Belinda's page), but let the Academy know."

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 6:41 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)



We learned this morning that the song will appear on Billboard's charts shortly. Somebody's listening to it. Somebody likes it.



I'm on Broughton's side on this, but I'd wager most people who are YouTube-ing or downloading the song are reporters trying to find out what the hell the song even is.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 7:08 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

One thing no one in the media has mentioned is that the studios/production companies have always had 'unfair advantage' as they just happen to have lists with every AMPAS member's contact information (for every AMPAS branch, I might add), which they use to send out For Your Consideration copies of their films, score and song submissions (how much do you figure they spend on this?), information none here could ever be the position to attain. So Bruce wrote a few emails asking members (most of whom he probably would know anyway as he has been a longtime, respected member of the film/music community) to consider his and Dennis' song. So what? From what I've read he wasn't one of these people who was awake at 5:38 AM(PT) on 12 January to see if his submission got in. He likely had no nomination expectation at all as, he has said in interviews, he wasn't even considered a dark horse in the race. I'm certain he was genuinely surprised by the nom announcement.

I don't think Bruce did anything untoward as he has detailed his promotion actions on behalf of "Alone Yet Not Alone" from the first time he was interviewed about the song's nomination.


I would like to see the decision of the Academy reversed, nomination reinstated.

FYI: Were people here aware that the Academy membership includes studio executives? That isn't right.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

This whole thing is idiotic. It does not sound like Broughton did anything wrong to me.

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   LEONCIO   (Member)

If Mr. Broughton is an "advantage", Mr. Weistein is a "mobters"

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   desplatfan1   (Member)

One thing no one in the media has mentioned is that the studios/production companies have always had 'unfair advantage' as they just happen to have lists with every AMPAS member's contact information (for every AMPAS branch, I might add), which they use to send out For Your Consideration copies of their films, score and song submissions (how much do you figure they spend on this?), information none here could ever be the position to attain. So Bruce wrote a few emails asking members (most of whom he probably would know anyway as he has been a longtime, respected member of the film/music community) to consider his and Dennis' song. So what? From what I've read he wasn't one of these people who was awake at 5:38 AM(PT) on 12 January to see if his submission got in. He likely had no nomination expectation at all as, he has said in interviews, he wasn't even considered a dark horse in the race. I'm certain he was genuinely surprised by the nom announcement.
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Well said. It's funny how people will treat Broughton s the bad guy, when the studios send FYC promos, makes advanced screenings, spends thousands of dollars on ads. All of that it's practically the studios begging for their films to be nominated. If Broughton would have bribed certain members of the Academy, then it would have being truly shameful. But he didn't.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

If anyone's interested, CBS News (CBS News This Morning) has posted the actual email Bruce sent to the seventy Academy members (probably people he's known for many years).

http://www.cbsnews.com/entertainment/

Anyone here see an interview broadcast?

 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

If anyone's interested, CBS News (CBS News This Morning) has posted the actual email Bruce sent to the seventy Academy members (probably people he's known for many years).

http://www.cbsnews.com/entertainment/

Anyone here see an interview broadcast?


Note that CBS didn't include the signature line in their reprinting of the email. Just based off what they did reprint, it does seem like bullshit that they rescinded the nomination, seeing as though emails are actually allowed.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

If anyone's interested, CBS News (CBS News This Morning) has posted the actual email Bruce sent to the seventy Academy members (probably people he's known for many years).

http://www.cbsnews.com/entertainment/

Anyone here see an interview broadcast?


Note that CBS didn't include the signature line in their reprinting of the email. Just based off what they did reprint, it does seem like bullshit that they rescinded the nomination, seeing as though emails are actually allowed.



Not only this, but the Academy members receive a reminder list (as they do with considered scores), one containing the names of all the considered songs. All anyone would have to do is go on IMDB to discover the songwriter's identity.

Would you sit through a seventy-five song DVD compilation? I suspect most people wouldn't, so why not call people's attention to your song? Score nominees don't have this restriction, the composer's name and score both appearing on the Academy reminder lists.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 11:21 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

So who blew the whistle on this? No one would have ever known about Broughton's emails unless someone or more than one shared this info with someone who had the power to possibly find fault in it. Looks like he was just trying to save money on putting a FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ad in the Hollywood Reporter or Variety, or did such ads also appear?

OSCAR'S ARE FULL OF CRAP ANYWAY... unless you win. The music section of the Academy has always been wishy washy anyway and so inconsistent throughout the years. Like the year one of Alan Menken's Animated music song Scores for a Disney movie won over some great Dramatic Scores by Goldsmith and others. That really sucked. They have to figure out their categories better.

Hollywood and the movie and music business is greatly full of crooks and sometimes a few nice people. It's all about money and that's it and truth, loyalty and integrity usually takes a back seat.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmKqLoVijvM

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

So who blew the whistle on this? No one would have ever known about Broughton's emails unless someone or more than one shared this info with someone who had the power to possibly find fault in it. Looks like he was just trying to save money on putting a FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION ad in the Hollywood Reporter or Variety, or did such ads also appear?

OSCAR'S ARE FULL OF CRAP ANYWAY... unless you win. The music section of the Academy has always been wishy washy anyway and so inconsistent throughout the years. Like the year one of Alan Menken's Animated music song Scores for a Disney movie won over some great Dramatic Scores by Goldsmith and others. That really sucked. They have to figure out their categories better.

Hollywood and the movie and music business is greatly full of crooks and sometimes a few nice people. It's all about money and that's it and truth, loyalty and integrity usually takes a back seat.


Once the media started doing their digging, and a few Music Branch members came forward (however innocuously) about Bruce's email and Music Branch status, the scenario was in place for a controversy.

The only promotion tool I don't object to the studios using is film screeners as many Academy members are elderly and may not be physically able to travel to an AMPAS screening or be in a location where some of the lesser known films can be viewed (especially the sundry foreign language films, the awards to which are voted on by the entire AMPAS membership).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   Bill in Portland Maine   (Member)

CBN story on the Academy's takesie backsie, with Broughton responding on camera:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvigEOGaTTI

I think the nomination should stand. Right now, the lobbying "For Your Consideration" on the nominees is more fierce than anything we see on K Street. Good gravy. Oops, pardon my language.

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 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

The entire "controversy" is crap anyway...wasn't the whistler blower a disgruntled non-nominee who felt slighted?

Hell, the award is supposed to be about quality. So, if this gets nominated over popular darlings like Jay Z ... umm... doesn't that seem like something rational ? big grin

Then again, Eminem won an Oscar, so there goes any validity big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   AndyDursin   (Member)

the fact that the film was so incredibly obscure -- I'd never even heard of it until the campaign started for the song -- probably didn't help their case.

That is the whole issue.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Bill in Portland Maine   (Member)

This is just SO Academy bureaucracy in action. From the CBS story linked to above:

"The Academy would not talk to us on camera, nor would they specify what rule Broughton violated in his email."

No wonder the Golden Globes are kicking AMPAS's ass. At least the Hollywood Foreign Press is under no pretension that they're anything other than a beauty contest with booze.

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 Posted:   Jan 30, 2014 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

the fact that the film was so incredibly obscure -- I'd never even heard of it until the campaign started for the song -- probably didn't help their case.

That is the whole issue.


Conversely, the Taylor Swift song, the one that missed out on a nomination, came from a little known about British film. Do you think anyone would have raised an eyebrow had she been nominated instead of Bruce? I seriously doubt it.

 
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