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 Posted:   Mar 23, 2014 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)

Just to make you fans of TINKER BELL tantalized, there are full-score composer promos of all four Tinker Bell videos. They are high-quality, very enjoyable scores, comparable to the Intrada release.

I enjoyed them so much that I went to the Public Library children's section and, one-by-one, I took each film out and watched them.

My semi-exasperated wife (who will "NOT watch a cartoon") rolled up her eyes and must have thought that I was going through my second childhood or something. But they were all enjoyable and well-supported by the score...and, at my age, I don't give a damn. smile

Ron Burbella



I'm curious, where did you find these promos? I didn't think they existed...I would love to hear them!

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 2:57 AM   
 By:   calmblueocean81   (Member)

Ah theres no need for this thread to get so negative (for these things have a tendency to spiral out of control!).

 You may be right that some people often overlook animated scores, because of a preconception that they are somehow “kiddie”, or less worthy of their time than “proper” film scores. I would usually get the same reaction from people if I talk about my love of game scores, for example. But I doubt the majority of dedicated score lovers (especially the ones who frequent this board here) could be painted with the same brush as the average Joe on the street. People here can appreciate the work of a good composer, regardless of the medium they are working in.

Of course it would great if all our beloved animated scores were released, but sadly that will never likely be the case. Scores in general are a niche market (comparatively speaking!) and animated scores are niche even among score collectors. I for one am thankful for any the animated scores that we are blessed with.

Who among us honestly thought we’d ever see a day where we’d get a proper officially released album for Batman: the Animated Series, let alone two wondrous volumes? And only recently LaLaLand gifted us with the incredible Superman: The Animated Series as well! It really is a marvellous time to be a lover of music J

Like yourself Senn555, I would give my left nutsack for a release of the music from The Last Airbender (tv series), but I’m still flabbergasted that we even managed to get a score for The Legend of Korra (a lovely album that I listen to quite regularly!). Hopefully the success of that album (its my understanding it sold quite well) will encourage them to release a second volume, and maybe somewhere down the line we’ll get something to represent the original Team Avatar J

It’s also worth noting that the score in question in this topic IS getting a release, albeit in digital-only format, so at least that’s better than nothing. And in the future, digital releases may even become the norm. In fact, it could be that if things move over to purely digital releases, it might allow more specialised (ie: less traditionally profitable) scores to see the light of day. I’m loath to relinquish my hold on the physical CD, but eventually we’ll all have to move with the times!

I just thank my lucky stars for all the animated scores that have come our way in recent years and owe a huge debt of gratitude to all the hard working people in the various labels who help fuel my musical obsession.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 7:16 AM   
 By:   scrapsly   (Member)

I concur that a download is better than nothing. I am thankful for anything that gets released because as a consumer (alone) I have no power to do anything. If I want it, I will buy it. If I do not, I don't. Free market, and I would not have it any other way. I would be much more prone (and in fact would) buy digital downloads if it were in a lossless codec. If and when lossless music were to become the norm, I would buy downloads. I for one would love to see the bussiness model for downloads. Music and games for example I can buy a physical copy many times (not always) cheaper than I can buy a download only. WHY WOULD I BUY A DOWNLOAD WHEN IT ISN'T ANY CHEAPER ? There is no paper, plastic, extra factory costs to pay employee's to manufacture yet in many instances a download is the same price as a physical copy. I know there are costs of upkeep to servers ect, but again, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A BUSSINESS MODEL FOR DOWNLOADS. It just does not make any sense for me to buy one especially when I can buy a physical copy and then make my own lossless copy (music).

I am a huge Joel McNeely fan so I propably will buy an MP3 download of The Pirate Fairy. I REALLY want to hear it. I have not bought an MP3 download since the COMPLETE Casino Royal was released as an MP3 only download (that I played once since I am no fan of lossy music) if that says anything about my consumer habbits. I keep going back to my LOSSLESS listening experience (the CD or FLAC codec I ripped) when I want to hear Casino Royal. The first Tinkerbell score by McNeely released by Intrada is fabulous and would buy the rest on CD (or lossless codec) it it ever saw the light of day.

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


It’s also worth noting that the score in question in this topic IS getting a release, albeit in digital-only format, so at least that’s better than nothing.


Wheres the news on this? Also will it be the score, or song compilation with perhaps one 8 minute suite? If it's the score and appropriately priced I will purchase this. Better than nothing.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 8:15 AM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)


It’s also worth noting that the score in question in this topic IS getting a release, albeit in digital-only format, so at least that’s better than nothing.


Wheres the news on this? Also will it be the score, or song compilation with perhaps one 8 minute suite? If it's the score and appropriately priced I will purchase this. Better than nothing.


http://www.amazon.com/The-Music-From-Pirate-Fairy/dp/B00J58EAWW/

Looks like a really short score but it's better than nothing at $5.99 for the download, I can't complain. At least something is getting released. I'd be happy to see the other scores released in a digital download just to have them...

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 8:16 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)


Like yourself Senn555, I would give my left nutsack for a release of the music from The Last Airbender (tv series),


Let's just settle down, calm down for a minute and talk about something potentially very serious.

You have TWO nutsacks?!

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 8:20 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


It’s also worth noting that the score in question in this topic IS getting a release, albeit in digital-only format, so at least that’s better than nothing.


Wheres the news on this? Also will it be the score, or song compilation with perhaps one 8 minute suite? If it's the score and appropriately priced I will purchase this. Better than nothing.


http://www.amazon.com/The-Music-From-Pirate-Fairy/dp/B00J58EAWW/

Looks like a really short score but it's better than nothing at $5.99 for the download, I can't complain. At least something is getting released. I'd be happy to see the other scores released in a digital download just to have them...


Thxs! That is very interesting.

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)


Like yourself Senn555, I would give my left nutsack for a release of the music from The Last Airbender (tv series),


Let's just settle down, calm down for a minute and talk about something potentially very serious.

You have TWO nutsacks?!


lol

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Paraphrasing, Intrada said the first Tinker Bell score would need to sell a lot better than it did before they would ever release another one. frown

And this is why I choose not to associate with the majority of score fandom. The situation as it's always been with closed-minded "fans" is disgusting to say the least.


Senn555, I too listened to the sample for Tinkerbell and they just didn't click for me. For what it's worth I've watched one episode of MLP, just to see what all the fuss was about... again didn't do anything for me. I am open to trying new things, but when finances are tight and there's already piles of scores that I know I'd enjoy, I'm sorry but I'm not taking a gamble on a score whose samples don't appeal. And I certainly don't appreciate being referred to as closed minded or part of a disgusting situation - you're not going to win any converts with that attitude.

Let me spin the question around: why is it that animation fans seemingly won't try film scores? Have you tried convincing fans of the animated properties themselves to buy Intrada CDs? That too would spur on sales and achieve the end result of getting more of these scores out on CD.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   calmblueocean81   (Member)


Like yourself Senn555, I would give my left nutsack for a release of the music from The Last Airbender (tv series),


Let's just settle down, calm down for a minute and talk about something potentially very serious.

You have TWO nutsacks?!


Its both a blessing and a curse .....

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


Let me spin the question around: why is it that animation fans seemingly won't try film scores? Have you tried convincing fans of the animated properties themselves to buy Intrada CDs? That too would spur on sales and achieve the end result of getting more of these scores out on CD.


What makes you think animation fans don't buy live action scores? I would say three quarters of my soundtracks are from live action films.

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

The big kicker for me, why I didn't buy the Intrada disc (and to this point, many of the Intrada/Disney releases that I'm somewhat interested in - including the newer Thor score, Lone Ranger, Toy Story 3), was the price. It's very difficult for me to justify paying "specialty label prices" ($20/disc) for what is, essentially, a blind buy. It's the kind of thing I reserve for something that I know for a fact I'll love - movies with scores I'm familiar with and already like, favorite composers. No number of glowing message board recommendations or 15-second sound clips are going to convince me to spend $20+shipping when there's a significant doubt that I'll get $20+shipping worth of enjoyment, however you would even quantify that. This would have likely been a quick blind purchase for me on Amazon for $9-$12 with free shipping, based solely on word of mouth.

I understand why the prices from boutique labels are what they are for , and I know it's a reality I have to accept - I pay those prices and I pay them often for things I care about; but my not purchasing certain titles will just have to be another reality for somebody else to accept - the one or two people who are currently crying because of that one extra copy of Tinkerbell that's sitting in a warehouse somewhere. I'm happy this is available on disc for those who care $20 worth, and while I'm sorry that it didn't sell well enough to justify producing the sequels on disc, I'm happy the music is available digitally for the new one smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 1:12 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)


Let me spin the question around: why is it that animation fans seemingly won't try film scores? Have you tried convincing fans of the animated properties themselves to buy Intrada CDs? That too would spur on sales and achieve the end result of getting more of these scores out on CD.


What makes you think animation fans don't buy live action scores? I would say three quarters of my soundtracks are from live action films.


I was thinking more along the lines of people that generally don't collect soundtracks. If you want to see more animation releases from the labels, why not promote them at forums for fans of My Little Pony or the Disney fairy movies and try to hook that untapped (thus far) buying audience. Given the popularity of, say, My Little Pony, I'd venture to say there may be a larger fan base for animation than the number of soundtrack fans actively buying, and if you hooked some of them, that might substantially drive up sales.

Chris.

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


Let me spin the question around: why is it that animation fans seemingly won't try film scores? Have you tried convincing fans of the animated properties themselves to buy Intrada CDs? That too would spur on sales and achieve the end result of getting more of these scores out on CD.


What makes you think animation fans don't buy live action scores? I would say three quarters of my soundtracks are from live action films.


I was thinking more along the lines of people that generally don't collect soundtracks. If you want to see more animation releases from the labels, why not promote them at forums for fans of My Little Pony or the Disney fairy movies and try to hook that untapped (thus far) buying audience. Given the popularity of, say, My Little Pony, I'd venture to say there may be a larger fan base for animation than the number of soundtrack fans actively buying, and if you hooked some of them, that might substantially drive up sales.

Chris.


I see. That makes sense. I would go farther. I don't think the specialty labels go far enough in promoting their releases.

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 3:02 PM   
 By:   Senn555   (Member)


Its both a blessing and a curse .....

"Soos! The portable toilets are clogged again!"

If only I had your positive outlook, calmblueocean. It's a bit difficult to have that when you've made enemies who only care about putting you down because you're different and you're constantly surrounded by them.

I'll apologize for my initial comment about the situation being "disgusting". Yeah, I'm bitter because there's not nearly as many animated releases as I'd like there to be. I grew up on animation and that medium has always spoken to me more than live-action does, so to see things like Star Trek seemingly getting complete discography releases (a franchise I've hardly seen nor do I care much for... and am getting increasingly annoyed with because of everyone else obsessing over it - and I've seen all of the Nostalgia Critic Trek reviews and Into Darkness), along with Intrada's comments that DuckTales isn't a priority and that they have other things to release first, is all a bit more than frustrating to me. I do understand the numerous factors blocking such releases from happening though - from master tapes / agent issues with Shuki Levi / Haim Saban scores of the 80s to Hasbro / Disney / Nickelodeon not deeming such ventures as worth their time and money.

That, combined with this board's favoritism (my perception) over live-action and/or 1940s-1970s content that I've never seen, rarely venturing into newer material from the 90s and onward, has made me at odds with the tastes and preferences of most here.

I guess it'd be nice if more people would appreciate the medium I'm into, but I'm not interested in winning friends or favors here.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   RonBurbella   (Member)

Posted: Mar 23, 2014 - 4:21 PM
By: moviescore1 (Member)

Just to make you fans of TINKER BELL tantalized, there are full-score composer promos of all four Tinker Bell videos. They are high-quality, very enjoyable scores, comparable to the Intrada release.

I enjoyed them so much that I went to the Public Library children's section and, one-by-one, I took each film out and watched them.

My semi-exasperated wife (who will "NOT watch a cartoon") rolled up her eyes and must have thought that I was going through my second childhood or something. But they were all enjoyable and well-supported by the score...and, at my age, I don't give a damn. smile

Ron Burbella
*****************************************************************************************

I'm curious, where did you find these promos? I didn't think they existed...I would love to hear them!

*****************************************************************************************
I was approached by someone liquidating the estate of a deceased producer (not in the USA) and I jumped at the chance. They were quite limited, from what I understand. Just a lucky happenstance for me.

Ron Burbella

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2014 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Yes! Good to know that you have them, while 99,99999999% of their potential buyers have no way of acquiring any them.
I have been searching for Secret of the Wings for years and still think that it is more like an urban legend. "There is one guy who heard about another guy who claimed to have them" something of that sort, but I've never seen any of them actually on sale anywhere (even for some ridiculous ebay prices), although I've heard some rumors of FYC promos produced for Secret of the Wings, I am still searching for at least a proof it actually exists.
If you would be willing to trade Secret of the Wings for something, my contact is in my profile. ;-)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2014 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   moviescore1   (Member)

Posted: Mar 23, 2014 - 4:21 PM
By: moviescore1 (Member)

Just to make you fans of TINKER BELL tantalized, there are full-score composer promos of all four Tinker Bell videos. They are high-quality, very enjoyable scores, comparable to the Intrada release.

I enjoyed them so much that I went to the Public Library children's section and, one-by-one, I took each film out and watched them.

My semi-exasperated wife (who will "NOT watch a cartoon") rolled up her eyes and must have thought that I was going through my second childhood or something. But they were all enjoyable and well-supported by the score...and, at my age, I don't give a damn. smile

Ron Burbella
*****************************************************************************************

I'm curious, where did you find these promos? I didn't think they existed...I would love to hear them!

*****************************************************************************************
I was approached by someone liquidating the estate of a deceased producer (not in the USA) and I jumped at the chance. They were quite limited, from what I understand. Just a lucky happenstance for me.

Ron Burbella


That's awesome and very lucky! Would love to hear those promos.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2014 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   Golden Suns   (Member)

along with Intrada's comments that DuckTales isn't a priority and that they have other things to release first, is all a bit more than frustrating to me.

Intrada's lack of interest in DuckTales in particular frustrates me too. I've noticed that there aren't very many animation scores in their catalog aside from modern stuff that comes from their partnership with Disney.

In any case, there is a petition for the DuckTales score: https://www.change.org/petitions/disney-records-intrada-release-the-complete-music-score-for-ducktales-on-cd-and-or-itunes

Maybe if Ron Jones's work on DuckTales ever does get released, and sells well, it'll help them realize there is a colossal demand for animation soundtracks!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2014 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)


It’s also worth noting that the score in question in this topic IS getting a release, albeit in digital-only format, so at least that’s better than nothing.


Wheres the news on this? Also will it be the score, or song compilation with perhaps one 8 minute suite? If it's the score and appropriately priced I will purchase this. Better than nothing.


http://www.amazon.com/The-Music-From-Pirate-Fairy/dp/B00J58EAWW/

Looks like a really short score but it's better than nothing at $5.99 for the download, I can't complain. At least something is getting released. I'd be happy to see the other scores released in a digital download just to have them...


Sound samples are now available. Quick math there's about 17 minutes of score. There's only two songs, so it's not a song album. So why such a short score release? Strange.

Edit: Well I bit the bullet, and purchased the download. Magnificent music as expected. To bad there wasn't more.

 
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