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 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

If the end of the CD world meant downloads and they were lossless, then hell yes! I'd rather have a favorite score in any audio format over none at all.

I hope and trust that CDs will still be with us for at least a few years or more, but IF, IF, IF Varese felt compelled to DE their catalouge, given the massive size, for the sake of time, downloads could be a faster and more economical way to mass release albums.

Whatever means makes available the music while we are still alive to experience them.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

Whatever means makes available the music while we are still alive to experience them.

Exactly! Well said.

But labels have often said in the past that they aren't able to secure digital rights mostly, so this is probably a mostly moot point.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 12:33 PM   
 By:   johnmullin   (Member)

Absolutely. I only buy CDs so I can rip the music to some kind of lossless format, and then I never touch them again. Whenever I can purchase a lossless download of a recent soundtrack, I do that instead of buying the CD. It's all digital so there's no difference, and I don't want the extra clutter in my home.

If La La Land, Intrada, the Varese Club, and the rest could sell me CD quality files, I would probably buy MORE of their releases. Particularly if they were able to save the costs of physically pressing the discs themselves, printing and packaging the artwork, and then storing them someplace and having a staff on hand to fill and ship orders. Assuming that all these lower-to-nonexistent manufacturing costs would allow them to charge a little less and/or do more releases (and perhaps to take risks on more obscure releases which they want to do, but which may not have high prospects for sales), that's a change I would welcome 100%.

The other advantage would be that you could download the music more or less the instant the sellers make it available, which I would think would REDUCE piracy somewhat. If you can go to LaLaLandRecords.com, spend 15 dollars, and have legally acquired files in your possession within minutes, then you really have no excuse to keep using illegal file sharing sites to get this stuff (unless, of course, you're just a greedy, immoral a**hole who doesn't mind taking income away from the people who are putting these things out at great expense in the first place). I might be counting too much on people's good will on that one, but I'm willing to bet that a quick, legal alternative would take a lot of traffic away from several of the file sharing sites.

 
 Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 12:46 PM   
 By:   ToneRow   (Member)

For me it wouldn't deter me one bit. What do I do when I buy a cd? Immediately rip it, put it on a shelf and never look at it again.

Some deterants:

  • no internet connection in the dwelling place
  • no valid credit card
  • no bank account (so no payment via personal checking account)

    Currently, I remit orders for CDs with money orders via snail mail.

    A reloadable pre-paid debit card is another possibility for payment, but then the internet and/or telephone connectivity is needed.

    I don't see myself sending money orders for internet downloads...

    [also, I don't rip CDs onto computer. CDs may be on the shelf, but I do look at them again! smile ]

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     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 1:02 PM   
     By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

    For me it wouldn't deter me one bit. What do I do when I buy a cd? Immediately rip it, put it on a shelf and never look at it again.

    Some deterants:

  • no internet connection in the dwelling place
  • no valid credit card
  • no bank account (so no payment via personal checking account)

    Currently, I remit orders for CDs with money orders via snail mail.

    A reloadable pre-paid debit card is another possibility for payment, but then the internet and/or telephone connectivity is needed.

    I don't see myself sending money orders for internet downloads...

    [also, I don't rip CDs onto computer. CDs may be on the shelf, but I do look at them again! smile ]


    If one wanted to purchase a download and wanted it bad enough, there are ways.

    If one lived in a town without internet, how would they buy a CD anyway, but online?

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     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 1:15 PM   
     By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

    I would not....unless it was something truly special...and there could be only one or two things I can think of that would be truly special.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 1:28 PM   
     By:   CinemaScope   (Member)

    CD, but if it was a score I really wanted I'd have to give it serious thought. The thing is, any score I want, I really want. So little comes out that I want these days, I'd happily pay $30 a disc.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 1:29 PM   
     By:   Octoberman   (Member)

    If downloading was the only way, then yes. And it has to be CD quality sound--at least 16/44.

    However, I don't want them charging as much as a CD for it. If I have to pay for my own method of physical storage, then they wouldn't be entitled to charge as much as if they sent it to me in a permanent physical form.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 1:44 PM   
     By:   Kevin Costigan   (Member)

    I would not....unless it was something truly special...and there could be only one or two things I can think of that would be truly special.

    Exactly, in the end its about the music, not the round thing that holds it. I respect CD collecting, but anyone rejecting their "Holy Grail" completely because its not coming from a CD is just silly.

    God forbid we actually see the CD market fall in less than 5 years one could always burn the lossless files to a CD and one has exactly that, a CD version of their favorite score.

    That being said, I respect the digital concerns, but should anyone be realistically concerned that the soundtrack lables would switch their entire model of business from CD to downloads after all they hard work they've displayed over the years?

    The guys at Intrada, LLL, and the rest of the gang are film music's truest crusaders for preserving and presenting this stuff. The years or time, money and passion devoted to soundtrack albums says to me that they would throw in the towels before anyone if the CD market was truly dead.

    These folks may be business folks, but they are fans at the core. Knowing that their passion has contributed to the single most profitable genre of music on CD today says to me that they will not abandon CD production as easily as some project.

    I trust that we can all relax and take comfort that the soundtrack CD is just fine. I'm more concerned about the lack of funds to spend on a CD with all the abundant availability than a world without them.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 2:21 PM   
     By:   Kim Tong   (Member)

    ... I would be done collecting scores. I purchased one downloadable song many years ago because that was the only way to get it. That song has since been releases on CD. I dumped the download and replaced it with the CD recording. Between my father's collection and mine, we have plenty of music. If the CD is available, we would still purchase it.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 3:17 PM   
     By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

    If they offer both CD and download I will always buy the CD even if it costs three times as much. Shipping charges don't matter to me. If they offer download only then obviously I would have no choice but to purchase that.

    This.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 3:59 PM   
     By:   PFK   (Member)


    I want only REAL CDs made professionally by labels like Kritzerland, LLL, Intrada, Varese etc.

    I don't trust music on a tiny chip or floating in space.

    CDr and DVDr discs that you burn yourself don't always last. My nephew made hundreds of them in the past 10 years and many will no longer play.

    Kritzerland, LLL, Intrada etc., please continue to give us the REAL first class CDs you have always given us, complete with the colorful informative booklets! smile

     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 4:03 PM   
     By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

    To put it this way, I wouldn't expect anything less from the specialty labels than little shiny discs produced with loving care!

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 4:09 PM   
     By:   PFK   (Member)

    No, but if they brought out something I really wanted on Download only and somebody offered me a CDR I'd accept it!



    I'm with you Niall! smile

     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 4:16 PM   
     By:   johnmullin   (Member)

    These folks may be business folks, but they are fans at the core. Knowing that their passion has contributed to the single most profitable genre of music on CD today says to me that they will not abandon CD production as easily as some project.

    Respectfully, I just don't think this is true at all. I think it's the legal aspect of doing a limited expanded release that has kept a lot of these companies pressing CDs where they otherwise wouldn't. If that were not in place, I suspect we would have seen more labels experiment with at least making their releases available both ways (hasn't BSX done a few releases like this?). If the playing field were level, and some of these small labels _had_ to choose between going "download only" and closing shop altogether, I suspect many of them would choose to keep going in some form.

    I somewhat understand why so many people on this board still want the shiny discs, but for me, I really only see them as a way to get the music at 44.1/16. I honestly have no use for them otherwise. Downloads, however, are more convenient, economical and have the potential to present the music at higher qualities than CDs are capable of. Again, if any of these companies found a way to legally release their music as files, I would happily never pay for another CD again.

     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 4:25 PM   
     By:   spook   (Member)

    I can't believe that folk would actually pass up getting a soundtrack they wanted if it wasn't on cd. I too always go for a cd if it's available but to actually choose not to have the music at all because it isn't on cd seems like the music can't be that important after all. Someone in a previous thread actually said they wouldn't buy the MALIFICENT soundtrack because there was a song at the end of the album!!! What a picky strange bunch we can be.

     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 4:26 PM   
     By:   batman&robin   (Member)

    Absolutely and definitely NO !!
    Factory made original CDs only.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 4:28 PM   
     By:   PFK   (Member)

    Absolutely and definitely NO !!
    Factory made original CDs only.




    I agree with you two guys! smile

     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 4:33 PM   
     By:   Francis   (Member)

    Given how CD prices and shipping are only going to increase in the coming years, for me it has become too expensive to keep buying everything on CD. Especially with international shipping and an increase of custom checks (over here at least). That is why I wouldn't mind having the alternative. As for digital rights being a moot point, I personally am not convinced that it is a priority for the specialty labels right now, and I'm not sure given the shift to download for general music if that is such a wise decision. But any label that releases a score I want, I will support no matter if it's CD or download, but for instance vinyl for me is not an option. I don't think it's that hard to imagine newer generations will think that physical media will not be an option to them.

     
     Posted:   Jun 13, 2014 - 4:33 PM   
     By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

    Absolutely and definitely NO !!
    Factory made original CDs only.




    I agree with you two guys! smile


    Same with me - long live the CD...:-)

     
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