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 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 6:55 PM   
 By:   bagby   (Member)

The first title almost has to be Friedhofer's 'Die, Sister, Die!'

Second one, I'm guessing, is maybe Bernstein and maybe Les Baxter. Bernstein had so many scores rejected in the '70s. Or it could be somebody like Michel Legrand, I guess.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 7:03 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

God told me to would be nice, great score. But FRANK CORDELL was only a fleeting film composer so that wouldn't connect with the info.

but it does appear to be his last score (on imdb), so that would also fit the clue. And it's coming out on bluray soon. Holy grail for me.

There's no time frame for the 2nd composer, but seems like there are many that could fit that profile. Gil Melle, Frank Karlin...

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Yes I believe it was his last score and of course we know it did blatantly have 2 different titles when release, and reading again the info didn't stress film composer but composer, It may very well be that one. let's hope, wonderful emotional score

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 7:11 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Bernstein had so many scores rejected in the '70s. Or it could be somebody like Michel Legrand, I guess.

Berstein had one score rejected in the 1970's ("Casey's Shadow").

"Boom!" had two rejected scores.


How about Cordell's rejected "2001: A Space Odyssey", with one the documentary scores he did over the years?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 7:18 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


The second features two obscure scores by a man who could easily go from jazz to big orchestral force and dissonance. One is a rejected score and the other is a documentary. Good luck with this one.





Paul Glass?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Roger just posted that all the composers of the forthcoming albums are dead.

The second features two obscure scores by a man who could easily go from jazz to big orchestral force and dissonance. One is a rejected score and the other is a documentary. Good luck with this one.

Paul Glass?


he and David Amram come to mind (would love to hear Amram's unused score for "7 Days in May"), but they arent dead.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:10 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

The more the merrier, just open our wallets.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Still buying yours though. Great releases you've been coming up with lately Bruce and special kudos for It's Wonderful Life - magic you've performed there.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Remember : people only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun and tired of their shade.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Still buying yours though. Great releases you've been coming up with lately Bruce and special kudos for It's Wonderful Life - magic you've performed there.


Every label has great releases, all of them. That's not the issue. The issue is glutting the market - I warned about it three years ago, no one wanted to hear it, but I have heard from enough people that it has indeed hurt us all. The proof, I'm afraid, is there for all to see.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:24 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

But back to our regularly scheduled program.

Although Die Sister, Die! would be a hoot, I think its doubtful as the score is from the early seventies, not the late.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:25 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Remember : people only rain on your parade because they are jealous of your sun and tired of their shade.


Oh, dry up, will you? It's been so nice since you haven't been around. No one is jealous of anyone - but of course you know that, but you can't help being who you are. My point is an obvious one, and while consumers decide what they want and don't want, the glut that has gone on for three years has done damage - no one sees that but those who have labels. We all have titles that sell out quickly, but the frequency with which that happens has gotten wider and wider, and many titles have stiffed because there's just too much coming too fast. Intrada led the way with their four a month - no one and I mean NO ONE had a schedule as full as that, until three years ago, when everyone began trying to outdo each other.

I personally don't give a flying Wallenda, because we'll all do what we do and in the end it will turn out how it turns out. I just find it amusing that four a month is no longer sufficient for labels. Back to the shade for me, baby. I like it there.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

So, because two releases every two weeks wasn't seemingly enough, the new Intrada way is now THREE releases every two weeks? I gotta tell you.

Still buying yours though. Great releases you've been coming up with lately Bruce and special kudos for It's Wonderful Life - magic you've performed there.


Every label has great releases, all of them. That's not the issue. The issue is glutting the market - I warned about it three years ago, no one wanted to hear it, but I have heard from enough people that it has indeed hurt us all. The proof, I'm afraid, is there for all to see.


I hear ya Bruce. I've certainly reined in my purchases to a 'sane' level for quite some time now. The glut is indeed here and its up to us consumers to make more thoughtful choices. Obviously, we can't buy everything and moreover, many of us (well, me at least) wouldn't want everything as there is only 24 hours in a day and a large chunk of it is already spoken for.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:52 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

You can talk all you want about glutting the marketplace but I just crunched our numbers for the first half of 2014 and it's the most we have ever made in our 12 year history from January 1 to June 30. I was shocked, but it made sense when I looked at the sales.

While we didn't have a mammoth size hit like previous years (i.e. Star Trek The Motion Picture, ID4, or Hook), we had several home runs...and those home runs helped sell some of the smaller releases.

It's all about the titles.

For every Empire of the Sun, It's a Wonderful Life and Young Sherlock Holmes a company releases it helps pay for smaller projects like D.A.R.Y.L. and Judith that didn't sell a boatload of copies.

There is nothing wrong with variety in the marketplace. A customer doesn't have to buy everything that comes out. That's just plain silly. Pick and choose and get what you want. If you are worried about something selling out, then prioritize and buy the items that you know are limited.

Also, keep in mind some times things are beyond the labels' control. For instance, we only have 2 releases in July, but most likely 5 in August. Projects get delayed for a variety of reasons...most of which is beyond the labels control. None of us are made of money and we need to start recouping a project's cost as soon as possible.

In other words -- SHIT HAPPENS.

Happy 4th, everyone! smile

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 8:58 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

You can talk all you want about glutting the marketplace but I just crunched our numbers for the first half of 2014 and it's the most we have ever made in our 12 year history from January 1 to June 30. I was shocked, but it made sense when I looked at the sales.

While we didn't have a mammoth size hit like previous years (i.e. Star Trek The Motion Picture, ID4, or Hook), we had several home runs...and those home runs helped sell some of the smaller releases.

It's all about the titles.

For every Empire of the Sun, It's a Wonderful Life and Young Sherlock Holmes a company releases it helps pay for smaller projects like D.A.R.Y.L. and Judith that didn't sell a boatload of copies.

There is nothing wrong with variety in the marketplace. A customer doesn't have to buy everything that comes out. That's just plain silly. Pick and choose and get what you want. If you are worried about something selling out, then prioritize and buy the items that you know are limited.

Also, keep in mind some times things are beyond the labels' control. For instance, we only have 2 releases in July, but most likely 5 in August. Projects get delayed for a variety of reasons...most of which is beyond the labels control. None of us are made of money and we need to start recouping a project's cost as soon as possible.

In other words -- SHIT HAPPENS.

Happy 4th, everyone! smile

MV


Gee, thanks for all this information - had no idea. Really. Really really. And you know what, Mr. Gerhard - I'll just leave it at that. Really. Really really. The public posts vs. the private stuff said to others is always amusing, though. Really. Really really. I just crunched our numbers and we've had the best best year in our nine-year history of best best years. Really. Really really.

And just so everyone knows, even though I've said it before: I own every single Intrada release. I can't say that for any other label except mine own and I get those for free smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:02 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

Really? Seriously? People are objecting because there is one extra disc being released this month? I'd hardly call that glutting the marketplace. Personally, I'm glad there is such a range of things still being released by all of these labels. I'm sure most people don't buy every title that the labels release and it's nice to have a variety of titles available. And with Intrada no longer doing limited runs that sell out in a day or two there is no reason anyone would have to buy all three titles immediately.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

I can't say that for any other label except mine own and I get those for free.

Now, that's an odd definition of free!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:05 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

By the way, I was writing my message when haineshisway was posting his and didn't see his message until I posted mine, so my opening word was not a comment on his post. I have no interest in getting involved in whatever dispute is going on between Kritzerland and La-La-Land, I just wanted to express my appreciation for Intrada.

 
 Posted:   Jul 3, 2014 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

By the way, I was writing my message when haineshisway was posting his and didn't see his message until I posted mine, so my opening word was not a comment on his post. I have no interest in getting involved in whatever dispute is going on between Kritzerland and La-La-Land, I just wanted to express my appreciation for Intrada.

I'd like to express my appreciation for all the labels and get back to our idle speculation thread.

 
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