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 Posted:   Jul 20, 2014 - 9:43 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

What's the Irish saying...people cry at weddings and laugh at funerals? Why not allow us to CELEBRATE the distinguished career of Mr. Garner (and the many fine scores that have graced his films) instead of insisting on some glum, "proper" silence for an unspecified period? Are we only allowed to discuss a celebrity's career once they're "in the ground"?

For God's sake, you really ARE a miserable bastard, Ford.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2014 - 9:46 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

What's the Irish saying...people cry at weddings and laugh at funerals? Why not allow us to CELEBRATE the distinguished career of Mr. Garner (and the many fine scores that have graced his films) instead of insisting on some glum, "proper" silence for an unspecified period? Are we only allowed to discuss a celebrity's career once they're "in the ground"?

For God's sake, you really ARE a miserable bastard, Ford.


The Man hasn't even been buried yet by his family.

Only a "miserable bastard" would think that doing this now is a good thing.

We are talking about A MAN Who died and his family is still morning, perhaps a bit of time needs to pass.

but as I've said along, none of you seem to grasp this concept.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2014 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Was Garner a member of YOUR family, Ford? I can't for the life of me understand why you're so upset over this. I'm sure his family and friends are encouraged that people are CELEBRATING his long career, and that his fans are every bit as saddened by the news of his death as they are. These types of threads are only "disrespectful" in YOUR eyes.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 20, 2014 - 10:00 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Was Garner a member of YOUR family, Ford?

No, but he was a fellow HUMAN BEING with family and such and deserving of a bit more respect on the day of his death when a bunch of score geeks asking who wrote the best score for which film he was in.

Let the body be buried first before starting this nonsense, or is that too much to ask for.

This is one of the reasons that this board is sometimes held in such low regard.

Sorry Guys, but you just don't get it.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 1:31 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Ford, if you feel that some posts are inappropriate, then you're just going to have to do what many others sometimes do--you simply hit the abuse button. Then when you are contacted you can plead your case to The Constable. It's for him/them to decide what's appropriate and what's to be done about it, if anything.

That is your only recourse.

For what it's worth, I think your outrage is somewhat misdirected. The thread is about the MUSIC of an actor's movies, not about the actor himself. If anything, it pertains more to the score's composer than anything else. The fact that the actor just passed away is very sad, yes, but it causes him to be in the public eye right now and this thread merely reflects that.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've always enjoyed William Ross's score for My Fellow Americans. Hope someday we'll see a full release of it.

Love the movie and Ross' score works as the perfect "patriotic punchline" to the goofy jokes throughout. However, imo the score wouldn't make as good a stand alone listen. Thankfully, Ross didn't have to interpolate "The Macarena" into his own music!

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 4:10 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

As said before, i always believed that its a bigger crime not to discuss someone who has passed.
Any thread that keeps their memory alive - whether it is score related or not - has to be a good thing., does it not.?
We get canned for starting non film score threads anyway over here so its a way of "film score geeks" who buy cds doing at least some kind of tribute thru the medium we have our memories in, however tenuous.
No second deaths - keep the memory alive in any way. And nothing to stop posters putting their scores up nor their memories of Garner eithr here or on the two tribute threads ovr on non-film score discussion.

Like many actors of his generation who worked through 50s 60s 70s and beyond, there is a lot of very good scores to choose from. I always loved Duel at diablo and support your local sheriff/gunfighter and for starters his Rockford theme by mike post remains one of the best t.v themes ever.

As others have said you would be hard pressed to find better, richer scores than great escape and hour of the gun.
And in some repects Garner's friendship with blind colin was one of the best elements in escape. You were rooting for action man mcqueen and Bronson in his boat, but you were also rooting for the unlikely pairing of Hendley the flash scrounger and Colin the kindly old forger.
"... You want to talk about hazards Roger? Let talk about hazards. Lets talk about you. You're the biggest hazard we have. The Gestapo has you marked. No one has said you can't go... "

Colin: "...Afraid this tea's pathetic. Must have used these wretched leaves about twenty times. It's not that I mind so much. Tea without milk is so uncivilized..."

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   The CinemaScope Cat   (Member)

Unless I missed it, I didn't see any mention of Henry Mancini's lovely score and songs to Victor Victoria! I'll also like to give a shout out to Alex North's The Children's Hour.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Back when I had cable and Larry King had an interview show, he would gather friends and colleagues of a recently-deceased person of note and they would lovingly discuss said person. I'm certain these programs aired live the day of or the day after such a death. I see nothing wrong with discussing the music of a film a performer appeared in as a form of remembrance.

People grieve or handle such things differently. Most of us reflect on the excellent music in a performer's filmography and recall fond memories watching their films or hearing the music whereas others act out in an overly emotional and irrational way to express their grief and hijack a thread and attempt to intimidate, guilt, or shame others into refraining from expressing their method of appreciation.

I think a class act like the late Mr. Garner deserves a second go around with an appropriate "music from his films" tribute thread without someone crashing in and behaving like a raving lunatic and trampling the proceedings.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   Freejack   (Member)

For once I agree completely with Ford on this one.

Are you guys so simpleminded that it takes an actor to die for you to come up with new theads in this forum???

I know bad taste when I see it.

How hard would it to start a thread "Favorite Score From A Various Filmmaker Film" instead of picking the bones of a recently deceased filmmaker?

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

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 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 6:17 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Security alert, Ghouls and trolls fighting in aisle seven...!

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)



Are you guys so simpleminded that it takes an actor to die for you to come up with new theads in this forum???



There is currently a "Favorite Score from a Kevin Costner Film" thread. Is he dead too? Maybe so, I have not heard confirmation either way.

I have seen these threads for both living and dead artists. Frankly, I didn't realize James Garner was gone when I replied. (I avoid the news on weekends.)

What do you think represents an appropriate period of mourning, during which we cease all conversation about those who recently checked out? 48 hours? 72? A week?

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   Mark5760   (Member)

Ghoulish? That is the most ridiculous demented comment I have ever seen in a post. If you don't want to participate don't. All day yesterday, every network and newspaper from the LA Times to the NY Times had retrospectives on James Garner's career including a ranking of the ten films you ought to see to gain the best retrospective of his career. There is nothing wrong with lamenting his passing by discussing which of his films had the best scores.

My vote goes to Hour of the Gun. Also memorable are Duel at Diablo, Sunset, and One Little Indian.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Sean Nethery   (Member)

If I were an actor, I would be delighted to know that people might respond to my passing with fond memories of favorite roles, or in our case, music that elicits those memories.

That is a tribute to the person and their work and impact on the culture. What a nice way to remember someone.

What else do we think about when someone famous we know and love passes, but the memories we have of our encounters with him over the years.

And given this, I'll add a lovely noir score for a rare instance of Garner as a bad guy - Bernstein's Twilight.

Plus a mention of Randy Newman's charming Maverick - probably the only soundtrack we'll ever get with that name attached. I was so tickled when it turned out the Garner was, of course, playing Maverick in the movie - what a terrific end.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 5:04 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

One day after Peter O'Toole died and before he was buried, the loathsome hypocrite Thaxton posted in a thread headed "Best Score for a Peter O'Toole film".

Thaxton's post read:


Well, my personal favorites are

BECKET (Laurence Rosenthal)

and for very personal reasons

HIGH SPIRITS (George Fenton)

Ford A. Thaxton


Touche.

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 5:05 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

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No, but he was a fellow HUMAN BEING with family and such and deserving of a bit more respect on the day of his death when a bunch of score geeks asking who wrote the best score for which film he was in.


Said the number 1 score geek.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

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No, but he was a fellow HUMAN BEING with family and such and deserving of a bit more respect on the day of his death when a bunch of score geeks asking who wrote the best score for which film he was in.


Said the number 1 score geek.


In regarding this thread I'm reminded of a line from the film "The Mask of Dimitrios"

"How little kindness there is in the world today!"

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Jul 21, 2014 - 10:49 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

Sometimes I feel like Rose Nylund regaling her Minnesota stories but here goes. Growing up, we had a neighborhood girl my age who was miserable all the time. Unsuccessful at befriending her, I asked my ever patient mom what was wrong. She said the girl probably had a rough home life and to be patient and kind. Through the years I continued to try and befriend her and penetrate that sour and surly exterior. She grew into a friendless bully and my mother continued to preach patience and kindness. As we both became adults, I moved away and she continued to live in the same house. After rgreeting her one day and getting a grunt and no eye contact, I relayed the incident to my mom, fully expecting her to AGAIN preach patience and kindness. Imagine my shock when my 4'10" Irish mom said "forget about her, she's just a miserable old b@#%h."

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 22, 2014 - 12:45 AM   
 By:   Regie   (Member)

Sometimes I feel like Rose Nylund regaling her Minnesota stories but here goes. Growing up, we had a neighborhood girl my age who was miserable all the time. Unsuccessful at befriending her, I asked my ever patient mom what was wrong. She said the girl probably had a rough home life and to be patient and kind. Through the years I continued to try and befriend her and penetrate that sour and surly exterior. She grew into a friendless bully and my mother continued to preach patience and kindness. As we both became adults, I moved away and she continued to live in the same house. After rgreeting her one day and getting a grunt and no eye contact, I relayed the incident to my mom, fully expecting her to AGAIN preach patience and kindness. Imagine my shock when my 4'10" Irish mom said "forget about her, she's just a miserable old b@#%h."

Well, Ed, that poor creature is surely still a friendless bully. How sad is that, but you tried your very best with her and that's obviously a wonderful reflection on your values.

Messageboards are often frequented by people who have few interpersonal skills - I've found that to my misfortune but, like you, I've given them the benefit of the doubt and attempted to be kind and civil. This has generally not worked so well because there are some people who are just ***holes and there's nothing we can do about it. Feeling sorry for them is one option; another is to live our lives with as much optimism and happiness, embracing others, as we can. I prefer that course to any other.

Best wishes, Regie

 
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