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 Posted:   Dec 25, 2017 - 4:33 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

The theatrical cut of TROY, because the score was recorded at literally the last minute.

The director's cut however....if there exists a piece of music in there that wasn't tracked, that would be a shock.

 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2017 - 4:36 PM   
 By:   Kylo Ren   (Member)

The theatrical cut of TROY, because the score was recorded at literally the last minute.

The director's cut however....if there exists a piece of music in there that wasn't tracked, that would be a shock.


The tracking of the music there is appalling. Not to mention it’s so poorly mixed against the sound effects that I don’t know why they even bothered when you can’t even hear the music to a degree where it’s even affective.

That’s something that was and is not a problem in the superior theatrical version, depending on your point of view of Horner’s score. You at the very least could follow and decipher the music that Horner had written.

For all the brutal violence they added back into the picture, that still didn’t save the third act alone from being butchered just from them destroying the flow and structure Horner had previously written for it. Say what you will about what was done to Horner’s work on Aliens? The music still worked brilliantly.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2017 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

Alien
The Lost World: Jurassic Park

Kiddin'! smile (Why my absolute favorite scores?!) frown

 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2017 - 6:13 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

I’m not 100% but John Williams’ E.T appeared pretty much in the film as written I believe.

"E.T. is Alive" is tracked earlier in the film when Elliot shows off his toys to E.T.

 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2017 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Kylo Ren   (Member)

"E.T. is Alive" is tracked earlier in the film when Elliot shows off his toys to E.T.

Yes, I thought it was.

 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2017 - 8:51 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

alien 3 is tracked - open the chest scene has Music from candles in the wind

Wreckage and rape is heard before dillon’s death


Nope. Both are instances of original music that only sound similar to cues that were included on the MCA album

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 25, 2017 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   jb1234   (Member)

The theatrical cut of TROY, because the score was recorded at literally the last minute.



JNH's King Kong may also apply, although I don't know the complete score well enough to say. I know there's a lot of cues that repeat measures from other cues (probably to save time) but that's not tracking.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2017 - 3:00 AM   
 By:   Marcato   (Member)

alien 3 is tracked - open the chest scene has Music from candles in the wind

Wreckage and rape is heard before dillon’s death


Nope. Both are instances of original music that only sound similar to cues that were included on the MCA album



NOT at all - i have the cue sheets and i Can tell you that when the chest is opened Music from candles in the wind is there wink


I also believe that the unreleased Music heard during the Company guys only was written for one scene and i don’t believe it was recorded twice wink

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2017 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Does anyone know of films where every cue is used where it was meant to be used? I'll start with three off the top of my head

-The Fifth Element
-The Fugitive
-Total Recall (1990)


Two thirds of End Of A Dream wasn't used as it was intended (it was cut completely) so I don't see how Total Recall can make your list.

 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2017 - 8:48 AM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Two thirds of End Of A Dream wasn't used as it was intended (it was cut completely) so I don't see how Total Recall can make your list.

That's "dialing out" music. Dialing out is not the same as tracking music.

 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2017 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)


Nope. Both are instances of original music that only sound similar to cues that were included on the MCA album.

NOT at all - i have the cue sheets and i Can tell you that when the chest is opened Music from candles in the wind is there wink


Is it the exact same performance cut and pasted from the other cue, or merely an adaptation of the same material? It's not uncommon for different cues to reference the same motif or theme

I also believe that the unreleased Music heard during the Company guys only was written for one scene and i don’t believe it was recorded twice wink

Are you referring to the theatrical cut or the Special Edition?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 26, 2017 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

Rambo: First Blood Part II had the entire score used, there was just one instance of tracked music, where no music was intended to play.

 
 Posted:   Jun 7, 2018 - 7:52 PM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

Well, marcato, you were right; judging by the new material on the LLL release, there were instances of tracked music in Alien³ embarrassment so I'll take that off my list, along with Terminator 2 (I remember that the SE repeats earlier music for the brain surgery/CPU scene)

As far as new contenders, I think Terry Gilliam is pretty lenient with how he treats music in his films. Brazil, 12 Monkeys, and The Fisher King have no tracked music from what I recall.

Other contenders:

The Patriot
American Beauty
Beverly Hills Cop
Beverly Hills Cop II

 
 Posted:   Jun 11, 2018 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   Death Incarnate   (Member)

Heat

Six months later....

Nope, EG scored the “Hand in Hand” finale based on Mobys God Moving Over the Face of the Waters from the temp score. Mann ended up using Mobys track, alas a worse version with a strange major key shift that ruins the mood. EG’s piece was rearranged as the funeral in Michael Collins. Amazing cue. Can’t fathom Mann didn’t dig it.

I also recall a lot of the score on the boot score album not in the film.

EDIT: so I guess it was just not used, not retracted in a different place. My bad.

 
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