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 Posted:   Aug 23, 2017 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Morricone and Carpenter & Howarth on The Thing.

(And then Carpenter & Howarth on more or less everything else, less Carpenter & Walker on EFLA.)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2017 - 7:45 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Paul Sawtell and Bert Shefter.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2017 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   WJF   (Member)

My recent FANT4STIC post got me thinking about this.

Here's the ones I can think of:

FANT4STIC Marco Beltrami and Philip Glass
BATMAN BEGINS and THE DARK KNIGHT Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard
LAST OF THE MOHICANS Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman
THE EGYPTIAN Alfred Newman and Bernard Herrmann

In THE EGYPTIAN, it was not that either or these gentlemen could not have done justice to the
film.. This happened in the days before director days st the cienemas. In those days (1955) the
person in charge wasually called 'The Producer' D. Zanuck filled that role for 'THE EGYPTIAN' and
hired Newman (who was music director at fox studios) to score the pic. Newman then hired Herrmn
to score the choral music. So it was not a score by two composers. Newman & Herrman both worked
on the same score.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2017 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Paul Sawtell and Bert Shefter.


See Yavar Moradi's first post.

 
 Posted:   Aug 23, 2017 - 8:44 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

This is its own can of worms, but what about musical films, particularly adaptations of pre-existing musicals? "Chicago," for instance had a Broadway score by Kander and Ebb, but also incidental underscoring by Elfman.

Here's another category that might be good for its own thread: pre-existing underscoring that was re-used in different films. "Zorro, the Gay Blade" had a score by Fraser which was adapted from Steiner's "The Adventures of Don Juan." Another complication: the love theme from both scores is from the classical repertoire, Turina.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 1:10 AM   
 By:   slint   (Member)

The Sherman brothers?

Gianfranco & Gian Piero Reverberi
Guido & Maurizio de Angelis
Elsio Mancuso & Vassil Kojucharov
Frizzi - Bixio - Tempera
etc

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 2:03 AM   
 By:   odelayy   (Member)

Thomas Newman and Philippe Sarde for Mad City. Only the first one was credited although you hear more from the second one in the final cut.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 2:15 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

My recent FANT4STIC post got me thinking about this.

Oh, easy, easy.... granted, it was pretty good, but FANTASTIC? Pretty good though, pretty good...

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 3:30 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Ennio and Andrea for Cinema Paradiso

I think that one's a little tenuous, TG, given Andrea is credited with only the Love theme ...



Maybe so, but I was feeling left out, so.... smile

So how about Ennio and Gillo Pontecorvo for Battle of Algiers?



And Ennio and Amedeo Tommasi, the piano chap, for The Legend of 1900.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 3:34 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Bill Conti and Dmitri Shostakovich for Escape To Victory. Although Shostakovich was unaware of his contribution, having died a few years earlier.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I don't know if this counts, but didn't Carmine Coppola contribute some music to "The Godfather", a score mainly by Nino Rota?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Satanik - Roberto Pregadio & Romano Mussolini

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Manfred Hübler & Siegfried Schwab - Several Jess Frano films (Vampyros Lesbos, She Killed in Ecstacy, etc.)

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

Batman - Elfman & Herrmann.

 
 Posted:   Aug 24, 2017 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

THE CAVE
LAND OF THE DEAD
LOLA RENNT
Reinhold Heil & Johnny Klimek

THE HURT LOCKER
Marco Beltrami & Buck Sanders

THE HUNGER
Michel Rubini & Denny Jaeger

SUPERMAN IV
John Williams & Alexander Courage

THE GOLDEN SEAL
John Barry & Dana Kaproff

TRANCERS
Mark Ryder & Phil Davies

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2017 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Two different movies called Bolero.

One from the early 80s, scored by Michel Legrand and Francis Lai (Legrand arranged and conducted).

The other from later in the 80s, credited to Peter Bernstein, but Elmer Bernstein also scored one or two cues.

George Fenton collaborated with Ravi Shankar on Ghandi, and Jonas Gwangwa on Cry Freedom (Fenton, being enormously adept at ethnic music, actually composed more of each of these scores than many people realize).

Apocalypse Now was credited "Music by Carmine Coppola and Francis Coppola", though I am skeptical of how much music Francis actually "composed". Coppola the younger has never written any other music that I know of (and certainly didn't score any of his other films). It's possible Francis closely supervised his father's contribution to such an extend he felt he was "co-composing" the score. Either that or he composed a bit of the music, like maybe "Nung River" (which is not up to the standard of the rest of the score). Apocalypse Now also had additional cues and "ambiences" composed by The Rhythm Devils (a percussion ensemble consisting of several members of The Grateful Dead).

The NeverEnding Story contained music by Klaus Doldinger and Girorgio Moroder, though this was a "partial score replacement", not a collaboration.

And your thoughts as well. Does one movie really need two composers?

I would say in general no. In many cases it is not an artistic choice but sometimes a result of logistics (like the initial composer not having enough time), or a studio deciding the film needs something more "commercial" or "ear catching" in some scenes, or a whimsical director changing his mind about the music late in the game, etc.

I made a short a couple of years ago, and my composer (the magnificently talented David Coscina) had to depart the project owing to increased hours in his day job, so I tracked the film with what he'd given me so far, and then filled-in the few remaining blanks with cues of my own (which weren't, I admit, particularly good!).

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2017 - 10:34 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Elmer and Peter Bernstein collaborated more times than Bolero -- Rough Riders is the best, with Elmer contributing a theme and a few cues...and then there's Wild Wild West which was a reverse situation with Peter contributing a few cues.

And Jerry and Joel Goldsmith also collaborated more than once; oftentimes Jerry only contributed a theme (H.E.L.P., Brotherhood of the Gun aka Hollister) or conducting (The Untouchables), but one of their most famous collaborations was more involved, with Joel contributing a substantial portion of the score to Star Trek: First Contact.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2017 - 10:37 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Everyone knows 'Battle of Britain' was scored by Walton before Goodwin, but in fact Walton's bits were substantially shared with Malcolm Arnold in collaboration.

Elmer Bernstein wrote just the title theme for 'Arthur of the Britons', but Paul Lewis extensively scored it. Both excelled.

The War Lord was mainly Jerome Moross, but Hans Salter took over near the end.

Mellin and Reverberi for the 'Robinson Crusoe' TV series.

Lavagnino scored Welles's Othello, but Bergeris was also credited, I gather for some minor contribution.

Rozsa and Addinsell on 'Beau Brummel'?

Rozsa and Skinner on 'Naked City'.

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2017 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Dare we mention Herrmann and Chris Palmer on Taxi Driver?

Or of course Barry and Norman?

Tin hats on.

 
 Posted:   Aug 25, 2017 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Apocalypse Now was credited "Music by Carmine Coppola and Francis Coppola", though I am skeptical of how much music Francis actually "composed". Coppola the younger has never written any other music that I know of (and certainly didn't score any of his other films).


I don't know the details, but he was reputed to have written musicals when he was the boy wonder of the Hofstra drama department, as an undergrad. It would be interesting to know if any music sheets survive, or if anyone catalogued this work. I know bootleg recordings do exist. There's a thesis in here somewhere, somebody.

 
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