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 Posted:   Dec 30, 2017 - 6:15 PM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

Stephen Woolston:
I have no wish for some alternative universe where Goldsmith scored The Wrath Of Khan.

For one thing, as has been said, if he did, it meant he wouldn't have scored something else.

For another, Horner nailed that movie absolutely. There is zero need for me to wish for another score on that movie.



Yes. They spent less money for Horner and the results were great. There are many examples in movies and TV where having less to spend led to a superior outcome. Sylvester Stallone wanted to license Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust" for the main title of ROCKY III, couldn't swing it, and had to settle for asking Survivor to write a new song. "Eye of the Tiger" was a monster hit, and its lyrics are a far better match for the film.

Irwin Allen originally wanted to buy Robby the Robot for LOST IN SPACE, couldn't afford it, and had to take the cheaper course of building a new robot from scratch. The resulting character was awesome, and much more in keeping with the show's production design.


Yavar Moradi:
Insurrection has much less to redeem it beyond Goldsmith's score but IMO all of the TNG films are bad, including the much loved First Contact (which yes, looks like a movie...but all of the characters are totally...out of character). But I do have to give it credit for being the first Trek film in which our own planet Earth does not appear -- only took nine movies for that to happen, sheesh.

But IMO even the very worst of Trek preceding it looks like a masterpiece in comparison to the miserable horror show that is Star Trek: Nemesis. No wonder that killed the franchise until the reboot. The only Trek film I actively HATED...until perhaps Star Trek Into Darkness (and even that had a nice moment or two with Karl Urban as McCoy).


I must say, I agree with all of this.

 
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