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 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 10:05 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

Being in Indiana, one of the local news programs used "Tryouts" from Rudy in every ad for the better part of a year. You would hear it at least once per ad break on that affiliate. I haven't listened to the album since.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 10:18 AM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

I have tinnitus as well and have had it as long as I can remember. One reason I got into film music as a kid was that it was one of the few things that drowned it out in a way that helped me relax and concentrate.

I'm curious about something else; does anyone else here suffer from misophonia? That's been another lifelong issue I've had but I only heard a word for it within the last year or two. As a brief primer, it literally translates to hatred of sound but it's beyond that; it's a condition often tied to OCD and depression that causes a fight or flight response at any unwanted trigger sounds. Fingernail clicking, loud chewing, etc. Most people don't even register these things but the resulting stress for those inflicted produces a psychological, physiological and emotional response. It's horrible.

But, for the same reason as tinnitus I fell into film music because it helped me drown out all of my triggers when I'm out in public. Though even within film music itself I sometimes hear them, like if there's a metallic or scratching sound in an avant garde cue.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I cannot tolerate music that reminds me of my ex-wife.
When I hear the main title to Vertigo, it brings back all the memories I have of our last moments together at the cliff edge.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Yes.

Back in 2011 or so, I was diagnosed with chronic tinnitus in my left ear. Every waking hour, the sound was there. Like when you turned on one of those old fat tube TVs, that's the sound. Just multiplied by 10. As the years went by, I managed to overcome the psychological stress to a reasonable extent.

But then in October last year, the sound suddenly DOUBLED, and it's now at a completely intolerable level that I can no longer deal with.

Suffice to say, all of this has had a huge consequence for how I listen to music. I'm no longer drawn to big, orchestral action scores, but prefer the calm and textural. Or the electronic. I can no longer listen to music intently alone, but have to have it on in the background while I do other things (like sitting on a PC) -- as I multitask, I fool the brain (the creator of the sound) to divert less attention to it.

But beyond this very biological event, I would have to say that there's a personal taste evolution going on too, that also has had some bearing on how and what I listen to. I did a thread on this awhile back, but can't for the sake of me remember what I called it.


I developed tinnitus in my right ear (unilateral) about the same time as you, Thor. I went to an ENT doctor who determined my hearing was excellent, then underwent all kinds of tests (even an MRI) to determine why I was hearing noise. It was the same as you described–like an old CRT television. Then, one last test was an allergy screening that revealed allergies to all sorts of things that one can't avoid in daily life (grasses, pollens, molds, even house dust mite). I began receiving allergy shots each week and thankfully, slowly but surely, the tinnitus subsided. Today I am largely symptom free. The doctor explained that swelling in the middle ear due to the allergic reaction can impinge on the inner ear thus causing the noise. If you haven't tried this approach you might consider it.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm simply working to much nowadays. Working 7 or 12 days straight isn't unheard of. Instead of enjoying music, really listening to it, it's played in the background as I try to keep up with non work related responsibility on the few days I am off. Paying bills, cleaning house, etc.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I developed tinnitus in my right ear (unilateral) about the same time as you, Thor. I went to an ENT doctor who determined my hearing was excellent, then underwent all kinds of tests (even an MRI) to determine why I was hearing noise. It was the same as you described–like an old CRT television. Then, one last test was an allergy screening that revealed allergies to all sorts of things that one can't avoid in daily life (grasses, pollens, molds, even house dust mite). I began receiving allergy shots each week and thankfully, slowly but surely, the tinnitus subsided. Today I am largely symptom free. The doctor explained that swelling in the middle ear due to the allergic reaction can impinge on the inner ear thus causing the noise. If you haven't tried this approach you might consider it.

Oh believe me, I've checked that, and about a million other things. I have old-school, permanent "brain" tinnitus (due to a cochlean damage) that I'll have to carry with me the rest of my life. But I'm glad it worked out for you!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I'm curious about something else; does anyone else here suffer from misophonia?

Is it related to hyperacusis?

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Yes.

On 19 May 2000 I received a CDR with the score from Chill Factor by Hans Zimmer and John Powell. While I played it, two small girls got raped and killed in the woods just a couple of hundred yards away from me. Since then, I can't really play that music anymore, as it reminds me too much of that day. Particularly this theme:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlX68p9kM9g&index=20&list=PLohYzz4btpaQ4ZV7UXA-vz27IWFrgFJFG


Jesus Christ, man. And now Chill Factor is ruined for all of us.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   paulhickling   (Member)

So, first there is the memory factor. Where we have a greatest hits album, and then later 'the real thing'. In other words I remember my uncle having the two classic hits albums for the Beatles: the red and blue doubles. Loved 'em. But when it came to getting all the albums later on I always 'heard' the next track in advance, and it was the 'wrong' one!

Next: The very idea of setting an alarm clock with one of your favourite sounds. VERY bad move. Never did this because I realised straight away that the last thing you want is your favourite sound/music for your alarm!! You will hate it pretty quickly.

I do however have the Laurel and Hardy theme (sampled from the movies) as my phone ringtone. Fortunately I'm not the kind who is constantly on my mobile/cell. So usually I get a pleasant reaction when it goes 'off'.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 2:47 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

So, first there is the memory factor. Where we have a greatest hits album, and then later 'the real thing'. In other words I remember my uncle having the two classic hits albums for the Beatles: the red and blue doubles. Loved 'em. But when it came to getting all the albums later on I always 'heard' the next track in advance, and it was the 'wrong' one!



I had (and loved) those red and blue album (the Stone had something similar for their 60s and early 70s stuff). I know your pain.

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I developed tinnitus in my right ear (unilateral) about the same time as you, Thor. I went to an ENT doctor who determined my hearing was excellent, then underwent all kinds of tests (even an MRI) to determine why I was hearing noise. It was the same as you described–like an old CRT television. Then, one last test was an allergy screening that revealed allergies to all sorts of things that one can't avoid in daily life (grasses, pollens, molds, even house dust mite). I began receiving allergy shots each week and thankfully, slowly but surely, the tinnitus subsided. Today I am largely symptom free. The doctor explained that swelling in the middle ear due to the allergic reaction can impinge on the inner ear thus causing the noise. If you haven't tried this approach you might consider it.

Oh believe me, I've checked that, and about a million other things. I have old-school, permanent "brain" tinnitus (due to a cochlean damage) that I'll have to carry with me the rest of my life. But I'm glad it worked out for you!


Thor...Has anyone suggested a hearing aid? I developed tinnitus that was associated with hearing loss. The doctor explained that the brain creates the sound to make up for the loss in frequencies from the damaged cochlear hairs.
With aids I have significantly less tinnitus than previous. It's very faint now and I usually only hear it when it is very quiet. There is an adjustment period, but eventually your brain quits producing the sound when you are able to hear better. Also, the longer you go without aids, the more your brain starts to lose comprehension of speech sounds.

As for the main topic...I can't really think of a piece of music that I liked being ruined by anything. There are a few pieces that were enhanced by a particularly beautiful or eventful drive somewhere on vacation that I now associate with that. But there are some I never cared much for in the first place that have some bad associations. Working in an environment where the same songs are played over and over again as Muzak has certainly made me loathe some pieces, but they are all "pop" songs that I mostly didn't like anyway.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor...Has anyone suggested a hearing aid? I developed tinnitus that was associated with hearing loss. The doctor explained that the brain creates the sound to make up for the loss in frequencies from the damaged cochlear hairs.With aids I have significantly less tinnitus than previous. It's very faint now and I usually only hear it when it is very quiet. There is an adjustment period, but eventually your brain quits producing the sound when you are able to hear better. Also, the longer you go without aids, the more your brain starts to lose comprehension of speech sounds.

Yes, a hearing aid is next in line now, due to the radical worsening; an aid that produces a sound as a sort of 'distraction' (hopefully). Similar effect to the sound pillow I now use for sleeping, I suppose. But it won't remove the tinnitus. This is not temporary, it will not get better and I will live with it for the remainder of my life. I just have to make that clear. I have a serious form of chronic tinnitus. But I appreciate the concern and suggestions! smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 5:57 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

I have a couple of scores that remind me of past love affairs. 25+ years later I can now come back and enjoy them without past associations.

Other than that, it's a matter of time. I like to listen at bedtime while I read, but the husband is not so appreciative. Other than that it's trying to find the odd quiet hour.

Luckily I have no physical ailments that prevent me from the joy of listening to music.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 6:31 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

There are a few soundtracks that I absolutely loved before I saw the films. In a few cases, I saw the films and regretted it. I'm still trying to get the images out of my head.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   Justsumcrustydude   (Member)

There are a few soundtracks that I absolutely loved before I saw the films. In a few cases, I saw the films and regretted it. I'm still trying to get the images out of my head.

I felt that way about Silver Chalice.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 6:59 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Hey Thor I know we discussed this a long time ago but I suffered for about three years from Meniere's Syndrome and for all the sufferers you don't know tinnitus until you feel like you're in the Mysterious Island beehive at the height of honey season. And that's the GOOD nights. More times it's cicadas in August. Most times it's mariachi bands. Major sleep issues, ugh.

PS
oh, my...forgot about HOW it was discussed...context fits well with respect to jsmiley108's opening post above:

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=54563&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

Switching over to a set of old Marantz speakers from the 70s. The quality is just so much more warm than what I was used to.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2018 - 8:54 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

Stumbling into discussion of tinnitus here and in other threads always makes my own symptoms much worse. Every time it's mentioned here, it seems a dozen times louder to me because of people drawing my attention to it all the more.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2018 - 4:40 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Sorry about that, Basil. Didn't mean to drag the thread in that direction, but -- as suspected -- it's something that a lot of us struggle with, and that has definitely "changed our listening enjoyment", pr. the topic headline.

But I realized a bit too late it wasn't quite what the topic starter was after, which was more about unfortunate associations between music and non-musical events. It annoys me to no end that I can't remember what I called my thread about this topic, from a few years back.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 2, 2018 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   jsmiley108   (Member)

As for the main topic...I can't really think of a piece of music that I liked being ruined by anything. There are a few pieces that were enhanced by a particularly beautiful or eventful drive somewhere on vacation that I now associate with that. But there are some I never cared much for in the first place that have some bad associations. Working in an environment where the same songs are played over and over again as Muzak has certainly made me loathe some pieces, but they are all "pop" songs that I mostly didn't like anyway.

The opposite of my original post but also good... occasionally over the years I have had to make a one hourish drive at night out of Sydney by myself, and on each occasion I put the Tron Legacy CD into my car player and turn up the volume (and sometimes wind down the windows lol). It's pretty cool...

 
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