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 Posted:   Sep 5, 2018 - 10:51 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Legrand's "The Other Side of the Wind" is mentioned favorably in several reviews I've read. The consensus seems to be that it's an excellent jazz score.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2018 - 2:00 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Legrand's "The Other Side of the Wind" is mentioned favorably in several reviews I've read. The consensus seems to be that it's an excellent jazz score.

I would be surprised otherwise. Looking forward to hear it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2018 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

20 cds!?!?

20 is nothing compared to a lot of the sets classical and jazz labels are putting out, clearly seeing the end of the road for the CD format (or assuming it anyway). Just subscribing to various Warner Youtube channels you see trailers for set after set for this performer and that orchestra (and this isn't even mentioning the mammoths sets for composers, but that's a little bit of a different thing really)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 6, 2018 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   Mark   (Member)

...And just a reminder - Michel Legrand is in concert in London on Tuesday the 20th September at 7.30. A few tickets are still available. I am particularly looking forward to hearing music for The Scoundrel and Le Mans.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2018 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

20 cds!?!?

The 20 CD Legrand set will now be released by Universal France in November. This is certainly no coincidence as THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND movie will get its premiere also in November.
However, only 9 of those 20 discs will now be devoted to Legrand´s film scores. And among the scores on those 9 CDs just a few will be unreleased ones.
The 20 CD box set will not appaear as part of the "Ecoutez le cinéma" series, but apparently as a separate entity:

"Parallèlement à Ecoutez le cinéma !, Universal Music France publie en novembre un coffret évènement consacré à Michel Legrand, monstre sacré de la musique.
Parmi les 20 CDs du coffret, 9 CDs réunissent ses bandes originales, certaines inédites."

https://www.facebook.com/EcoutezLeCinema/

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2018 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

On Amazon France the complete track listing of this 20 CD set which is now called "Les Moulins de Son Coeur" can be found:

https://www.amazon.fr/Moulins-Son-C%C5%93ur-Yves-Montand/dp/B07HPY9GKK/ref=sr_1_2?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1539259946&sr=1-2&keywords=michel+legrand&refinements=p_n_date%3A183202031

THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND seems to be on CD 19 - but is it only a selection from the complete score with 6 tracks? - and 4 tracks from VIVRE SA VIE ARE on CD 4.
On the other hand, probably quite a lot of tracks are on all these CDs which get now released for the umpteenth time. And the assembly of the tracks is quite strange. It is explained in French.

"Certains CDs fonctionnent sur le couplage de deux vinyles (l'album historique 'Legrand Jazz' avec l'album hommage à Richard Rodgers), d'autres relèvent de l'anthologie, selon des thématiques précises : Nouvelle Vague, interprètes francophones et internationaux, dessins animés, hommages à des comédiens comme Steve McQueen (L'Affaire Thomas Crown) ou Alain Delon (La Piscine), à des cinéastes comme Jean-Paul Rappeneau (Les Mariés de l'an II, Le Sauvage). Le coffret comprend un grand nombre d'inédits dont la musique écrite en 2018 pour le film posthume d'Orson Welles (The Other Side of the Wind), des publicités et indicatifs radio, de nombreux albums rares, jamais réédités en CD (La Dame dans l'auto avec des lunettes et un fusil, Legrand Cinéma.)
Au détour du chemin surgissent des invités prestigieux, tous interprètes du grand Michel : Sarah Vaughan, Stan Getz, Stéphane Grappelli, Louis Armstrong, Yves Montand, Michael Jackson, Barbra Streisand, Jessye Norman. Dans le registre du classique, ce sont aussi des ouvrages portés par des solistes comme Natalie Dessay, Jean-Pierre Rampal, Maurice André ou Michel Legrand lui-même, soliste de son propre Concerto pour piano, fraîchement enregistré avec l'Orchestre de Radio-France."

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2018 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

I am wondering about reactions to the film and its score - ? I love the score -- especially the smoky jazzier elements. The film itself is fascinating and rather sad -- I may have to watch it again to come up with any reasonable opinion. The first time through I was just in a state of "I can't believe I am watching this after all of these years..."

The score sets a melancholy mood -- the end titles are a bit strident/celebratory but that is a minor quibble.

It will be a while before I revisit the film -- it is not an "easy" watch. But maybe in a month or so I will go back for a second look.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2018 - 8:28 PM   
 By:   bigbearla   (Member)

I was very much looking forward to this. But unless I'm reading the Amazon France website description wrong, a number of the discs look like compilations and not full scores or albums. Kind of a Greatest Hits compilation. I'm a huge fan of Michel Legrand and will probably get it. But there are a number of his scores and even musicals that are still out of print, and I'd love to see them re-issued in a box set. Of course labels and rights may prevent that.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2018 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Netflix is supposed to show this soon.
Hoping its good.

 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2018 - 9:47 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I was very much looking forward to this. But unless I'm reading the Amazon France website description wrong, a number of the discs look like compilations and not full scores or albums. Kind of a Greatest Hits compilation. I'm a huge fan of Michel Legrand and will probably get it. But there are a number of his scores and even musicals that are still out of print, and I'd love to see them re-issued in a box set. Of course labels and rights may prevent that.

I was watching the documentary (not done yet) having no idea that the actual film was posted at the same time. Wild.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2018 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

It's a gorgeous, strange, brilliant film, up there with the best of Orson Welles, and Legrand's score is absolutely perfect - it's mostly smokey jazz, but there are also a few dramatic cues that are reminiscent of the more sensitive parts of the "Thomas Crown Affair" score. The sensitive/dramatic material is actually the basis for Legrand's excellent End Title, which is my favorite cue in the score (I read this cue not only as the score's finale, but also as Legrand's personal sendoff to his friend Welles).

 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 12:17 AM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

It's a gorgeous, strange, brilliant film, up there with the best of Orson Welles, and Legrand's score is absolutely perfect...


If I wasn't in the middle of moving (a monumental task) I would have seen this by now. I've read very few negative reactions, and those mostly from clueless youngsters and a few sour old queens who I suspect have some kind of beef with the sexual aspects of the narrative (but who won't come right out and say so). I'm still looking forward to it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 4:13 AM   
 By:   couvee   (Member)

This is a similar set (although more expensive) as the one done for Michel Polnareff. The only problem with this kind of 'book' is that the CD's are very hard to release from the carton pages. I ended up putting all the Polnareff CD's in 2CD-jewel cases and still have to find time to make proper artwork that will tell me which disc is where.

I also noticed that 'Les Mariés de l'an deux' is expanded with 6 extra tracks. I paid big money for the rare Playtime/Hortensia CD but am pleased to find this slight expansion since this Rappeneau-disc is one of my favorite Legrand CD's.

I also see there are only three extra 'Vivre sa Vie' tracks of variations. The rest was probably too repetitive for Monsieur Lerouge. Too bad, especially since the other music on this disc is mainly a duplication of 'Jean-Luc Godard Histoire(s) de Musique' and 'Le cinéma de Michel Legrand Nouvelle Vague' so now we will have some tracks threefold and others not at all.

Still, for people who don't have these CD's already this set is very nice. As for the others who already own many of the CD's (like me) the deal is not so great financially speaking. Perhaps I will wait for a cheaper one on the second hand market. There should be people buying this, ripping the tracks they don't have yet end sell the set again.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 4:44 AM   
 By:   couvee   (Member)


This 20 CD set will certainly also contain the complete score for Jean-Luc Godard´s VIVRE SA VIE from 1962. Legrand had written one theme with 11 variations of which Godard used only the first eight measures of the first variation for his film (and he used those eight measures over and over throughout the film!). The tapes for this complete score - which were long thought to be lost - have been found by Lerouge already a few years ago and it is quite clear that he wants to include that score in the 20 CD set.


Too bad only three tracks of these variations (total time not even 4 minutes!) found their way on this set (or is this all that survives on tape?).

I also presume that Legrand's score for Godard's 'Bande à Part' (1964) is lost. I have never seen any music from this film anywhere, nor was it ever released on EP at the time. I saw the film recently and it's very entertaining for a Godard. The music was also quite nice and there is a long scene where Karina/Frey/Brasseur are doing a little synchronized dance together to a jukebox blasting out a (presumably) jazzy Legrand-tune.

He get's this credit in the main titles; pour la dernière fois (?) a l'écran la musique de Michel Legrand (meaning something like 'for the last time (?) on screen, the music of Michel Legrand'). One wonders what happened between composer and director that would spur such a credit, but Godard was always playful with words and in the booklet of Le cinéma de Michel Legrand Nouvelle Vague there is only praise, affection and appreciation for Godard by Legrand.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Welles has excellent taste. With Herrmann gone, I'm glad he got around to choosing Legrand. Let's see if this will be the beginning of a wonderful new director/composer relationship.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 6:56 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

I also presume that Legrand's score for Godard's 'Bande à Part' (1964) is lost. I have never seen any music from this film anywhere, nor was it ever released on EP at the time. I saw the film recently and it's very entertaining for a Godard. He get's this credit in the main titles; pour la dernière fois (?) a l'écran la musique de Michel Legrand (meaning something like 'for the last time (?) on screen, the music of Michel Legrand'). One wonders what happened between composer and director that would spur such a credit, but Godard was always playful with words and in the booklet of Le cinéma de Michel Legrand Nouvelle Vague there is only praise, affection and appreciation for Godard by Legrand.

There had been no controversy between Godard and Legrand at all. In 1964 Legrand quite simply wanted to leave France and to make his career as a film composer in the USA. Actually, his plans came to fruition only in 1968, but nevertheless he already wanted to go in 1964 and therefore told Godard that this would be his last film score in France. Therefore Godard made this nice farewell gesture to his friend by putting the "dernière fois à l´écran..." credit into his film.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 7:12 AM   
 By:   couvee   (Member)


There had been no controversy between Godard and Legrand at all. In 1964 Legrand quite simply wanted to leave France and to make his career as a film composer in the USA. Actually, his plans came to fruition only in 1968, but nevertheless he already wanted to go in 1964 and therefore told Godard that this would be his last film score in France. Therefore Godard made this nice farewell gesture to his friend by putting the "dernière fois à l´écran..." credit into his film.


Thanks for explaining Stefan. That makes perfect sense. My imagination started kicking in, perhaps Godard making life for Legrand so difficult with his messing around with the music that Legrand would never write for film again after this experience. Now I know the real story behind that credit, interesting.

And what about the score? Lost? Does anybody know if it's lost or simply neglected?...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 7:43 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)


Thanks for explaining Stefan. That makes perfect sense. My imagination started kicking in, perhaps Godard making life for Legrand so difficult with his messing around with the music that Legrand would never write for film again after this experience. Now I know the real story behind that credit, interesting.

And what about the score? Lost? Does anybody know if it's lost or simply neglected?...


In interviews (and also in his autobiography) Legrand always stated that it was a great pleasure for him to work with Godard because he was so inventive, broke the conventional rules of filmmaking and invented new ones. So he was not at all disappointed when Godard chose to use only several bars of the theme with 11 variations which he had composed for VIVRE SA VIE. In fact, Antoine Duhamel had just the same opinion about Godard and was very satisfied with the fragmentary approach Godard took when using the score he had composed for PIERROT LE FOU in 1965. Of course, many other conventional composers would have been very irritated by Godard´s way of using music in his films, but not musicians like Legrand or Duhamel.

As to BANDE À PART: I also suppose that the original tapes are lost. Otherwise Lerouge would have used at least one or two tracks for one of his many Nouvelle Vague compilations throughout the last 15 years. And you have to consider that VIVRE SA VIE had also been lost before the material was accidentally found in an archive in France about 5 or 6 years ago.

By the way, the 6 additional tracks of LES MARIÈS DE L´AN DEUX which you mention above and which can be found on the new 20 CD box had already been available on the Bell LP from 1971 as you can see here:
https://www.discogs.com/de/les-maries-de-l-an-deux-bande-originale/release/3049012

Unfortunately, these tracks had then been missing on the Playtime CD from the mid-90s (which also contained LE SAUVAGE and LA VIE DE CHATEAU). Therefore I myself have both the LP and the CD of this lovely score.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

It's a gorgeous, strange, brilliant film, up there with the best of Orson Welles, and Legrand's score is absolutely perfect - it's mostly smokey jazz, but there are also a few dramatic cues that are reminiscent of the more sensitive parts of the "Thomas Crown Affair" score. The sensitive/dramatic material is actually the basis for Legrand's excellent End Title, which is my favorite cue in the score (I read this cue not only as the score's finale, but also as Legrand's personal sendoff to his friend Welles).

The opening and closing music for the film is actually a VERY old Legrand track from L'Amérique Insolite:



James

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2018 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   Stefan Schlegel   (Member)

The opening and closing music for the film is actually a VERY old Legrand track from L'Amérique Insolite:
James


Quite interesting!
Could it therefore be that the six tracks from THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WIND which are now on the 20 CD box contain everything that has been especially composed by Legrand for this film? Or is there more new music which can be found in the film?
I suppose that those who have already seen the movie can say something about this.

 
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