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Sep 13, 2018 - 9:58 AM
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Rameau
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And Brexit . I don't how this will affect any buying options from European suppliers (I voted to leave) and finally today's films and scores fill me with apathy. I haven't seen anything decent at the cinema for a while and today's composers just don't seem to have it . I really miss the films with proper Main Titles and plots that develop and evolve and scores that allow the composer to build up tension and character. And finally actors that can really act.
As for disposing of my collection I live in the UK so my options are seemingly limited.
Ah! Well rant over back to my lists
I'm also in the UK (Greater London) & when I want to get rid of CDs & Books & DVDs I just give 'em to a charity shop, I just can't take the hassle of selling stuff. I'm a bit younger than you (coming up to 68) & happily live alone, so I'm under no pressure to get rid of my beloved junk, except that I live in a small house & I have to have a clear-out now & again. The thing to get your mind around is: all the stuff that's so precious to you is just so much landfill to most others.
There was a TV doc about Germaine Greer a few months ago (she's a right miserable old bag now), & she lives in this beautiful large old house in Essex, huge rooms, big windows, millions of books & huge garden...only she's nearly eighty now, the house isn't full of people like it used to be, she now lives in just two rooms of the house, the garden has gone wild, so she's selling up & moving to a much smaller place & said that most of her books will probably go to landfill. That's just the way it is.
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Sep 13, 2018 - 5:23 PM
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OnyaBirri
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Two minute Google search...
Thank you, Oldsmith.
Yes, as one who works in academia, I can confirm that conducting digital research using various combinations of keywords will produce hundreds or thousands of hits within seconds.
But the real work begins when you start digging into those hits.
If you would have spent two minutes apiece on any of those four links you shared, you would have seen that:
1. Neither the Austin Chronicle nor Civil Laws links address the concept of keeping the files after you've sold the original physical copies.
2. The LiveWire article addresses the legal AND ETHICAL aspects of copying CDs, and is written by someone with no legal credentials.
3. The author of the Audiophile Review piece similarly has no legal credentials. If you had read further down, you may have seen this comment from someone who claims to be a copyright lawyer:
"Steven, the copyright question is actually a complicated one, and the outcome is not nearly as clear as you suggest (I say this as a copyright lawyer). I discussed this in detail in Letters to the Ed in Stereophile some years ago. Basically, the copyright act expressly permits you to resell your CDs (see section 109). Then the question becomes what permits you to rip the CD in the first place? Is it consent by the copyright owners (record labels have repeatedly said they "have no objection" to ripping your own CDs)? Is it fair use (I would argue it is)? And depending on your answer, how can that burden your ultimate right to resell the CD, perhaps years later? If it was a fair use when you did it, how can it suddenly change later based on your exercise of a different statutory privilege? I assure you, the answers are up for debate among copyright experts."
Now, many of us have heard about the recent iTunes ruling, in which the iTunes library of deceased person could not be passed on to his family. That is because, with iTunes, we are buying not an audio file but a license, and this is surely specified somewhere in that massive amount of microscopic text that we skip over prior to checking the box that says "I agree."
But, when or where do we agree to anything when buying an LP or CD? I certainly never have.
So, again, I will ask:
Can anyone point to either specific legislation or a particular court ruling specifying the illegality of keeping digital files from a legitimately purchased LP or CD, after the person in question has unloaded the physical LP or CD? I am simply asking if legislation or a court ruling exists.
Oh, and as a preemptive measure, there is a difference between "illegal" and "unlawful." I will save that for a future post, if anyone wishes to continue the discussion.
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Sep 13, 2018 - 7:56 PM
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Regardless, I fail to see the difference between "have CD now, have copy then sell CD" and "download CD without buying anything" because they have the same base effect -- one more person has a copy of the music than has paid for it.
If I buy a new CD, rip a copy for myself and then give the CD to a friend for free or for a used item price, we will have provided more money to the performer/label than if we had both simply listened the same recording, hundreds of times, on Spotify or the like.
Last I read about it, Spotify paid something like $0.006 per play, while a CD buyer gives the performer/label several dollars. At that rate, after 1000 plays on Spotify ($6) the artist/label would make LESS than if someone bought the CD and gave 100 people free copies of it. Is that not true?
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I'm lucky, I think, I have sons who are queueing up to take my collection off me. Luckily they share a similar taste in music, so my collection will pass on to them. They are very keen to inherit all my cd's, so keen in fact I've recently hired a food taster to sample my meals before I eat.
You can't be too careful.
Paranoid, not at all. 
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You must have quite the collection if it's worthy of patricide!
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