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 Posted:   Sep 21, 2018 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


Love Barry's broad, romantic themes, but can't stand his staccato suspense and action writing.


When Barrry saw "action" he thought, slow and monotonous!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 21, 2018 - 11:44 PM   
 By:   barryfan   (Member)

I love Zimmer in his action/bombast mode. But his cutesy poo comedy scores like Matchstick Men leave me cold.

I listen to at least some of The Dark Knight daily.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 1:24 AM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)


Love Barry's broad, romantic themes, but can't stand his staccato suspense and action writing.


When Barry saw "action" he thought, slow and monotonous!


You sounds like someone who hasn't heard Barry's great action queues from Bond films like OCTOPUSSY, LIVING DAYLIGHTS, and so many more.

I love just about everything Barry did. What a career!

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 3:31 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

This is why I don't get on with these threads—they eventually start bringing out the negative.

Personally, I think John Barry's action music is classy and I love it way more than the headache inducing noise I hear in so many action film scores.

The thing I can't stand is what everyone outside these circles think film music is—the three hours of music crammed in a two hour film for the crash-bang-wallop orchestra playing on twenty double espressos, Dolby thud of doom on every bar and the great grand choir of the apocalypse.

Ugh.

But it seems I am in the minority these days.

Give me more intimate film music any day of the week.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 4:32 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

This is why I don't get on with these threads—they eventually start bringing out the negative.

Personally, I think John Barry's action music is classy and I love it way more than the headache inducing noise I hear in so many action film scores.

The thing I can't stand is what everyone outside these circles think film music is—the three hours of music crammed in a two hour film for the crash-bang-wallop orchestra playing on twenty double espressos, Dolby thud of doom on every bar and the great grand choir of the apocalypse.

Ugh.

But it seems I am in the minority these days.

Give me more intimate film music any day of the week.

Cheers


You might be in the minority, but you’re not alone.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

This is why I don't get on with these threads—they eventually start bringing out the negative.

Personally, I think John Barry's action music is classy and I love it way more than the headache inducing noise I hear in so many action film scores.

The thing I can't stand is what everyone outside these circles think film music is—the three hours of music crammed in a two hour film for the crash-bang-wallop orchestra playing on twenty double espressos, Dolby thud of doom on every bar and the great grand choir of the apocalypse.

Ugh.

But it seems I am in the minority these days.

Give me more intimate film music any day of the week.

Cheers


You might be in the minority, but you’re not alone.


Stephen, I definitely second your words as well. To my amazement, for so many film music buffs, a score has to be made predominantly of bombastic action music. I happen to like action music here and there but it's only a small part of what soundtracks usually have to offer. As a European person, I therefore don't see things like most collectors see them.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 5:34 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

To my amazement, for so many film music buffs, a score has to be made predominantly of bombastic action music. I happen to like action music here and there but it's only a small part of what soundtracks usually have to offer. As a European person, I therefore don't see things like most collectors see them.

I agree, except I do so as an American person.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Mancini in jazzy pop mode.
Badalamenti in 'Twin Peaks' mode.
Goldenberg in 70's suspense mode.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Fielding in his hard edge modernist mode.
Schifrin in jazzy funky action mode.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 5:22 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Mancini in jazzy pop mode.
Badalamenti in 'Twin Peaks' mode.
Goldenberg in 70's suspense mode.


Good Lord Mr Marshall, so what DO you like from them?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 5:23 PM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Fielding in his hard edge modernist mode.
Schifrin in jazzy funky action mode.


Goody Lordy Mr Marshally, so wot DO you likey from those masters?

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

This is why I don't get on with these threads—they eventually start bringing out the negative.

Personally, I think John Barry's action music is classy and I love it way more than the headache inducing noise I hear in so many action film scores.

The thing I can't stand is what everyone outside these circles think film music is—the three hours of music crammed in a two hour film for the crash-bang-wallop orchestra playing on twenty double espressos, Dolby thud of doom on every bar and the great grand choir of the apocalypse.

Ugh.

But it seems I am in the minority these days.

Give me more intimate film music any day of the week.

Cheers


You might be in the minority, but you’re not alone.


Stephen, I definitely second your words as well. To my amazement, for so many film music buffs, a score has to be made predominantly of bombastic action music. I happen to like action music here and there but it's only a small part of what soundtracks usually have to offer. As a European person, I therefore don't see things like most collectors see them.


Sorry if I hit a nerve. I Love Barry's The Black Hole and Moonraker, both curiously sci fi films of sorts. But his "action" music is completely off. The music doesn't represent what is seen on screen and at the wrong tempo. It's not a question of being bombastic or not.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 6:28 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Mancini in jazzy pop mode.
Badalamenti in 'Twin Peaks' mode.
Goldenberg in 70's suspense mode.


Good Lord Mr Marshall, so what DO you like from them?


Read the thread title .....

"Composer you love in ONE Film Genre..."

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 6:46 PM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I can't say I love "Johnny" Williams and "Johnny" Scott but oh boy, I sure do love the "John's" after they dropped those Y's!

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I have to admit: Goldsmith´s comedy scores do not work so well for me. I prefer him in action, drama or scifi/fantasy mode.

You answered the question "What composer do you like in many genres but don't like him in one genre?"

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2018 - 11:37 PM   
 By:   Laurent78   (Member)

We were indeed slightly off topic. If I had to choose an example, then I would no doubt mention Georges Delerue's action music. For some reason, I don't find him very much at ease with this part of the job of film composer, at least far less convincing than with writing tunes.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

Zimmer can be brilliant in Sci-Fi (Interstellar), but when it comes to historical movies or movies taking place in ancient times, his modern style can be quite inappropriate and annoying (Gladiator). There are tons of examples that a more orchestral classic score would have been way more suitable for.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 2:29 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Mancini in jazzy pop mode.
Badalamenti in 'Twin Peaks' mode.
Goldenberg in 70's suspense mode.


Good Lord Mr Marshall, so what DO you like from them?


Read the thread title .....

"Composer you love in ONE Film Genre..."


Do not speak to ME using the imperative, Mr Marshmallow. I admit I committed a small error in my understanding of the feat, but YOU, in your scolding clarification, have hurt my feelings. And you don't like anything by the composers you mention outside those somewhat restricted limits?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Zimmer can be brilliant in Sci-Fi (Interstellar), but when it comes to historical movies or movies taking place in ancient times, his modern style can be quite inappropriate and annoying (Gladiator). There are tons of examples that a more orchestral classic score would have been way more suitable for.

Weird notion to have (but not unusual, sadly), as Zimmer's historical scores are almost always appropriate for the style of the films. An old-fashioned orchestral score would not only be against the visual style of the said films (like GLADIATOR, LAST SAMURAI etc), but in many cases also no more appropriate in a historical sense than one that blends electronics and orchestra.

So vice versa, I think Zimmer is at his BEST in historical and/or ethnic settings. Also action films, sci fi films and darker dramas.

I'm NOT generally a fan of his "lighter" drama or comedy scores, however.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2018 - 9:59 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Zimmer can be brilliant in Sci-Fi (Interstellar), but when it comes to historical movies or movies taking place in ancient times, his modern style can be quite inappropriate and annoying (Gladiator). There are tons of examples that a more orchestral classic score would have been way more suitable for.

Weird notion to have (but not unusual, sadly), as Zimmer's historical scores are almost always appropriate for the style of the films. An old-fashioned orchestral score would not only be against the visual style of the said films (like GLADIATOR, LAST SAMURAI etc), but in many cases also no more appropriate in a historical sense than one that blends electronics and orchestra.

So vice versa, I think Zimmer is at his BEST in historical and/or ethnic settings. Also action films, sci fi films and darker dramas.

I'm NOT generally a fan of his "lighter" drama or comedy scores, however.


He's the worst when it comes to historical film scoring. And how does the visual style of Gladiator or Last Samurai preclude classic scoring? I love a lot of Gladiator, but no surprise as it borrows from the classics. But his scores for the Pirate movies are an abomination of the genre. Not every film needs the same approach for sure, I'm just not with the avant-garde sound for period pieces.

 
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