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 Posted:   Jun 7, 2001 - 6:28 AM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

Yes, David it is pap, but who's to say that we can't enjoy this right alongside Take A Hard Ride,Lonely are the Brave,The Trouble with Angels....the list of other great scores before this is endless.

A true Goldsmith 'junkie' to quote JB will find something enjoyable in all of these scores. I play Leviathan whenever it's rainy outside and it works just fine for me. Guess it depends on your level of 'sanity' http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/biggrin.gif"> http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/biggrin.gif">

NP:Cleopatra(North)

All the best,
Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2001 - 12:54 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

Ah, dissenting voices! I indeed posted that the end title was stupendous, but you've made me think of my reactions to the whole score...Come to think of it, I thought that some of side one (of the LP) was a bit leaden, though I did like those backwards-recorded moments. The love theme, now I remember, was rather banal, but I was on cloud nine with those end credits.

Saw the film on video many moons ago. I remember saying to my brother at the climactic scene, "Here's where he hits him " (because it was leading up to an Outlands moment), and, you know what? He hit him! But George Pan Comatose knew how to use music in his (weakish) films, and Leviathan is something which is, for me, made watchable by the music, even if it is average-to-good Goldsmith.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 8, 2001 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   OHMSS76   (Member)

George P has always struck me as a 'macho' director, like John Milius, in that they use strong scoring in their films. Listening to SHADOW CONSPIRACY(Broughton) I was surprised to see that he directed that film, and again the scoring is very taut,great percussion, dark tone overall.

I wonder if ones personality dictates their use of music? I always thought,after hearing his early scores,that Kamen was some brooding evil man....then we find out he's a nice family man! Why such dark music?

Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 11:01 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Haha, I know that dude....

Anyway, here ye here ye, from Facebook - Scream Factory announcement:
Our "Summer of Fear" release slate is about to get drenched. We're thrilled to report that we will be bringing the 1989 underwater monster flick LEVIATHAN to Blu-ray for the first time this August!

We know this will please many of you as it's been requested several times. No further details to report back at this time but we'll keep you posted on developments in a few months. ...

---------------------------------------------

A bad movie, yes, but not unwatchable - bad fun, I'll proudly add it to my bad blu ray stable.
Iso score unlikely, but who knows - a nice thought at least....

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Terrible movie, terribly fun score!

 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 11:15 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

Yes, both Goldsmith's LEVIATHAN and it's companion piece DEEP RISING are good candidates for a CD expansion. LEVIATHAN is missing about 18 minutes, and RISING has about 30 more minutes. Does Varese still own the rights to LEVIATHAN?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Ahhhhh Leviathan. I bet Goldsmith probably liked the film more than ALIEN, judging by his taste in films wink
I have a few tracks saved to my mp3 player, jettisoning the slower, more ponderous suspense tracks.
I love the 'whale call' Main Title, some of the more ripping action cues and the wonderful End Title.
I'll take this score over his drony later scores to Executive Decision, U.S Marshalls, Hollow Man and Along Came A Spider any day of the week though.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Since we're all reevaluating sound quality on everything all the time,
I'd take a straight remaster of album tracks - bad bad sound on the
album, so distant.
I always thought the Italian performance was good enough, just fix
that sound guys!!!
I'm surprised only 18mins. are missing? Someone came up with, on
another thread, that there are 33 cues total, at least that we know
of.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

I remember little of the film other than that it disappointed and regretted that Paul Weller didn't get a better production to perform in. Deep rising is more logical, better effects but a lot more annoying because it kills any horror by very unfunny commical scenes and rubbish attempts at humour.

Leviathan the score is great. When I saw the film on video in 1988, I recorded the "Just fine" and couldn't stop playing it. It still is a wonderful track.

D.S.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 19, 2014 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

It just so happens...

1. Underwater Camp
2. Decompression
3. Situation Under Control
4. No Help *
5. The Drop * / Discovery
6. Personal Effects *
7. The Log *
8. Vodka *
9. One Of Us
10. Spots *
11. Tissue Sample *
12. Six Pack Is Dead *
13. Infection *
14. Crew Exams *
15. It's Growing
16. Dumping Bodies *
17. It's Alive! *
18. Genetics *
19. The Locker *
20. No Change *
21. Lights Out (The Body Within Part 1)
22. After Willie *
23. Cobb Is Bitten *
24. The Plan *
25. The Plan Part 2 *
26. The Message (The Body Within Part 2)
27. End Of Cobb *
28. We're Trapped *
29. Files Closed *
30. Can We Fix It?
31. Too Hot
32. Escape Bubbles
33. A Lot Better

* unreleased.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   connorb93   (Member)

I know Goldsmith said something about the synths not representing anything in particular, but after a few listens/film viewings (it's a crap movie but fun for a few laughs) I've noticed how the growling synths, which he also used in Rambo III and Criminal Law, seem to represent the growth of the creature. The synths become louder, more mutated as the film progresses. I doubt that's coincidental. It's genius!

Same with that 5 note motif heard in the score. It gets faster as the score goes on as the creature gets closer to the characters. It's at it's fastest in the Escape Bubbles cue. I doubt Jerry had a great time working on a crappy reworking of Alien, but he created a lot out of very little.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

It just so happens...

1. Underwater Camp
2. Decompression
3. Situation Under Control
4. No Help *
5. The Drop * / Discovery
6. Personal Effects *
7. The Log *
8. Vodka *
9. One Of Us
10. Spots *
11. Tissue Sample *
12. Six Pack Is Dead *
13. Infection *
14. Crew Exams *
15. It's Growing
16. Dumping Bodies *
17. It's Alive! *
18. Genetics *
19. The Locker *
20. No Change *
21. Lights Out (The Body Within Part 1)
22. After Willie *
23. Cobb Is Bitten *
24. The Plan *
25. The Plan Part 2 *
26. The Message (The Body Within Part 2)
27. End Of Cobb *
28. We're Trapped *
29. Files Closed *
30. Can We Fix It?
31. Too Hot
32. Escape Bubbles
33. A Lot Better

* unreleased.


And exactly how much more music is there that isn't on the current CD?

15 to 18 minutes perhaps?

How long are these unreleased pieces anyway?

That's one bit of info that you didn't include in this post.

Does this score really deserve a OCD release?

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Of course it does - it's Jerry - you did Not Without My Daughter, so, really?

The sound is terrible on the Varese.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Michael_McMahan   (Member)

- you did Not Without My Daughter, so, really?



hahah. Touche!

I'd happily pick up an expanded Leviathan. Fun score, really cool use of electronics.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)


And exactly how much more music is there that isn't on the current CD?

15 to 18 minutes perhaps?

How long are these unreleased pieces anyway?

That's one bit of info that you didn't include in this post.

Does this score really deserve a OCD release?

Ford A. Thaxton


Most of the unreleased cues are in the 30-90 second range, for a total of 18.45 according to my stopwatch. I have too much free time.

I consider the score to be fun and entertaining, and would welcome a full release. It's no Planet of the Apes, but it's not Goldmith-on-Autopilot either. Although I hate the happy end credits, which puts me in the minority. For some reason some of the "crustacean" sound effects for the creature strike me as appropriate for Predator, a film supposedly offered to Goldsmith but which he turned down.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   nerfTractor   (Member)

This is some of my favorite ponytail-era Goldsmith. I'd love a cleaned up presentation of the existing release and of course if the extra tidbits were on offer I'd gladly pay to hear them too.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

This is some of my favorite ponytail-era Goldsmith. I'd love a cleaned up presentation of the existing release and of course if the extra tidbits were on offer I'd gladly pay to hear them too.

The ponytail didn't surface until 1992.

 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 8:07 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

This is some of my favorite ponytail-era Goldsmith. I'd love a cleaned up presentation of the existing release and of course if the extra tidbits were on offer I'd gladly pay to hear them too.

The ponytail didn't surface until 1992.


Then why was Sean Connery sporting the 'tail in Medicine Man?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 20, 2014 - 11:47 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Then why was Sean Connery sporting the 'tail in Medicine Man?

In 1992.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2014 - 1:16 AM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

This is some of my favorite ponytail-era Goldsmith. I'd love a cleaned up presentation of the existing release and of course if the extra tidbits were on offer I'd gladly pay to hear them too.

The ponytail didn't surface until 1992.


Alas the pony tail was there before 1992 but then it was still confined to 1) grumpy whiners who angrily refused to admit their beloved 60s and 70s had really gone 2) other "free spirits" who all decided to show their individuality by all wearing the same hair do 3) guys pretending not to be bald 4) 1-3:


Before 1992 it was the mullet (I prefer the far better expression we have here: neck beard) but in 1992 al the ponies were corralled in, roped and herded into the pony tail.

D.S.

 
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