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So, absolutely nothing definitive regarding who's singing. When I listen to TEF's recording of it, there are differences between how he sings certain words, compared to the title sequence in the film. I'm not convinced it is him, singing in the film. The voice on the film's soundtrack sounds exactly like the voice on Thunder Road, which is Mitchum. But, like I said, nothing definitive.
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So, absolutely nothing definitive regarding who's singing. When I listen to TEF's recording of it, there are differences between how he sings certain words, compared to the title sequence in the film. I'm not convinced it is him, singing in the film. The voice on the film's soundtrack sounds exactly like the voice on Thunder Road, which is Mitchum. But, like I said, nothing definitive.
Hi riotengine and John,
I haven't seen this film for a while so I can't help, but I would have thought that Mitchum's voice would be easy to distinguish from TEF's. I have a couple of Bear Family Records CDs of Mitchum and IMHO he didn't sound very like TEF at all back then. I'm curious about this now, I'd like to get the answer too.
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Feb 4, 2008 - 9:03 PM
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.....So, absolutely nothing definitive regarding who's singing. When I listen to TEF's recording of it, there are differences between how he sings certain words, compared to the title sequence in the film. I'm not convinced it is him, singing in the film. The voice on the film's soundtrack sounds exactly like the voice on Thunder Road, which is Mitchum. But, like I said, nothing definitive.....
John Maher....if you'll check riotengine's post above you'll see that he checked the official Tennessee Ernie Ford website in April of 2005, and they CONFIRMED that FORD sang the song over the main title.
I don't know why this is such a problem today. Everyone in 1954 KNEW it was Tennessee Ernie Ford, Ford was on television regularly, sounding exactly like the vocalist on the soundtrack, and singing the song occasionally during the release period, and if you, today, compare Ford's contemporary commercial recording of the song with the soundtrack you can hear for yourself it is the same---even if you don't trust everyone's positive statements.
As I get older, it is amazing to me how facts get lost in the mists of time and we are left with historical "questions" about things that were once "sure bets"! 
Niall.....To answer your question, I don't have a homemade "45-Box" for THE MAN FROM LARAMIE, but I did manage to find a 45 recording of the song in my collection---Jimmy Young, with Bob Sharples and His Orchestra, on a British 45 of the period.
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Feb 4, 2008 - 11:34 PM
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Bob DiMucci
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.....So, absolutely nothing definitive regarding who's singing. When I listen to TEF's recording of it, there are differences between how he sings certain words, compared to the title sequence in the film. I'm not convinced it is him, singing in the film. The voice on the film's soundtrack sounds exactly like the voice on Thunder Road, which is Mitchum. But, like I said, nothing definitive.....
John Maher....if you'll check riotengine's post above you'll see that he checked the official Tennessee Ernie Ford website in April of 2005, and they CONFIRMED that FORD sang the song over the main title.
I don't know why this is such a problem today. Everyone in 1954 KNEW it was Tennessee Ernie Ford, Ford was on television regularly, sounding exactly like the vocalist on the soundtrack, and singing the song occasionally during the release period, and if you, today, compare Ford's contemporary commercial recording of the song with the soundtrack you can hear for yourself it is the same---even if you don't trust everyone's positive statements.
As I get older, it is amazing to me how facts get lost in the mists of time and we are left with historical "questions" about things that were once "sure bets"!
The American Film Institute Catalog attributes the song's vocals to TEF. Their entry on the film's songs reads as follows:
Songs: "River of No Return," music by Lionel Newman, lyrics by Ken Darby, sung by Tennesse Ernie Ford; "I'm Gonna File My Claim," "One Silver Dollar" and "Down in the Meadow," music by Lionel Newman, lyrics by Ken Darby.
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Yet they don't indicate Marilyn Monroe singing those other songs? Why? The mystery continues. And, if everyone knew in 1954 it was TEF singing the title song, then how come I've been hearing it was Robert Mitchum, my entire life? I was born in 1950.
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Except none of that explains why Marilyn Monroe's name is not listed. Nor does it explain this listing on IMDB:
"River of No Return"
Performed by Robert Mitchum
"River of No Return"
Performed by Tennessee Ernie Ford
"The River of No Return"
Performed by Marilyn Monroe
"I'm Gonna File My Claim"
Performed by Marilyn Monroe
"One Silver Dollar"
Performed by Marilyn Monroe
"Down in the Meadow"
Performed by Marilyn Monroe
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Except none of that explains why Marilyn Monroe's name is not listed. Nor does it explain this listing on IMDB:
"River of No Return"
Performed by Robert Mitchum
"River of No Return"
Performed by Tennessee Ernie Ford
"The River of No Return"
Performed by Marilyn Monroe
"I'm Gonna File My Claim"
Performed by Marilyn Monroe
"One Silver Dollar"
Performed by Marilyn Monroe
"Down in the Meadow"
Performed by Marilyn Monroe
I probably misinterpreted one of the Google entries I read about them doing it together. Obviously, both recorded the song.
But, as for the IMDb, it seems simple enough to me: Monroe and Mitchum sang those songs in the film on screen, as their characters.
Tennessee Ernie Ford sang it as the main title.
As for IMDb, it's only as accurate as the person who made the entry. Because Mitchum's name is listed first doesn't mean he did the title song. Seeing Tennessee Ernie Ford's name included, and knowing he is not in the film, should be your clue.
Other than that, you'll just have to stew, John. You've been told the truth.
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It's ages since I saw the film but I have the DVD. It's one of those DVDs in my huge unwatched pile which I've never got round to. Anyway I just put it on and after hearing the song over the title credits I can't understand why anyone would think Mitchum is singing - it sounds nothing like him. This is a complete non-issue.
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It's ages since I saw the film but I have the DVD. It's one of those DVDs in my huge unwatched pile which I've never got round to. Anyway I just put it on and after hearing the song over the title credits I can't understand why anyone would think Mitchum is singing - it sounds nothing like him. This is a complete non-issue.
From your lips to John Maher's ears.
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It's ages since I saw the film but I have the DVD. It's one of those DVDs in my huge unwatched pile which I've never got round to. Anyway I just put it on and after hearing the song over the title credits I can't understand why anyone would think Mitchum is singing - it sounds nothing like him. This is a complete non-issue.
I was never talking about the opening credits. And, when does Mitchum sing the song in the film? Finally, why should anyone care what I think?
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It's ages since I saw the film but I have the DVD. It's one of those DVDs in my huge unwatched pile which I've never got round to. Anyway I just put it on and after hearing the song over the title credits I can't understand why anyone would think Mitchum is singing - it sounds nothing like him. This is a complete non-issue.
I was never talking about the opening credits. And, when does Mitchum sing the song in the film? Finally, why should anyone care what I think?
WHAT? What does this mean:
"So, absolutely nothing definitive regarding who's singing. When I listen to TEF's recording of it, there are differences between how he sings certain words, compared to the title sequence in the film. I'm not convinced it is him, singing in the film. The voice on the film's soundtrack sounds exactly like the voice on Thunder Road, which is Mitchum. But, like I said, nothing definitive."
I have some marbles here, which I'm happy to send you, since you seem to have lost yours.
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Feb 5, 2008 - 10:39 PM
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.....I think John's gone over the edge, so let's just give up and humor him here.....
Yes, John, it WAS Robert Mitchum singing ALL the songs in the film, including those attributed to Monroe----and Clifton Webb did the whistling and George "Foghorn" Winslow dubbed the moose calls!
And, as we all know, Mitchum dubbed Tony AND Maria in West Side Story, and Christopher Plummer in The Sound Of Music, and Mark Lester in Oliver.....
But it's Mitchum's uncredited performance of "Two-Faced Woman" for Joan Crawford in TORCH SONG that is undoubtedly his best work!!!
Like Vera Ralston, he had a voice to enthrall you.
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Just to clear my head, I'm going to play Al Martino singing The Man From Laramie...well, I think it's him!
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