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 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 10:04 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

but I did love the original presentations of "Heroics of Han & Luke" and "Rebels at Bay", each consisting of two cues from different parts of the film


What were these? Now i'm interested....

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 10:12 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I've still got my original lp of this from June, 1980. I need to burn it. It's in perfect condition, a little scruffy on the cover...

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

What were these? Now i'm interested...


He's just talking about "album presentation."

You know how Williams likes to edit his scores into "pleasant listening experiences" for the LP / CD, and will sometimes combine similar-subject music from different parts of the movie into one track, for consistency of style.

The real treat is when this practice leads to his composing "connecting material" or "album arrangements," which you can only hear on the resulting album, and not in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 10:29 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

What were these? Now i'm interested...


He's just talking about "album presentation."

You know how Williams likes to edit his scores into "pleasant listening experiences" for the LP / CD, and will sometimes combine similar-subject music from different parts of the movie into one track, for consistency of style.

The real treat is when this practice leads to his composing "connecting material" or "album arrangements," which you can only hear on the resulting album, and not in the film.



I know but I'm curious about what those two tracks were--what cues were combined, and what it sounded like. smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 10:31 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

What were these? Now i'm interested...


He's just talking about "album presentation."

You know how Williams likes to edit his scores into "pleasant listening experiences" for the LP / CD, and will sometimes combine similar-subject music from different parts of the movie into one track, for consistency of style.

The real treat is when this practice leads to his composing "connecting material" or "album arrangements," which you can only hear on the resulting album, and not in the film.



I know but I'm curious about what those two tracks were--what cues were combined, and what it sounded like. smile


Very good. I used to jam it loud in my '86 Honda Prelude on the freeway. On tape, of course.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

i wonder why they weren't preserved for either the anthology or special editions even as bonus tracks

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

The CD version originally released, the one that had the End Title in the middle of sequencing, contained only half the tracks from the double LP.


FYI, this release used a master that was used to press the RADIO STATION PROMO RELEASE of the score, this version was only supposed to go out to radios stations to promote the film.

When it came time to do the CD, someone decided to use this version since the 2 LP version would not fit on a single CD (back in those days the time was ony 74 minutes) and they didn't want to put out a 2CD set at that time.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 11:53 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

Does anybody know why this never made it to cd? As a complete, double-disc version, I mean? I'm aware of the single-disc one...

I have an absolute mint copy of this, any offers ?


A bottle of Bushmills... okay two if you'll share.


Make that a bottle of Eagle Rare Single Barrel and you're on...oh no, now I remember...better make that two bottles!


Done. I'll meet you at The Playwright.

 
 Posted:   Oct 9, 2008 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Neil S. Bulk   (Member)

The Empire CD was also out of order, so that end title was placed in the middle of the CD, and then immediately followed by the Main Title. roll eyes

The CD presented Side 2 first, which is why the end title immediately precedes the main title.

Neil

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2008 - 1:41 AM   
 By:   Simon Gomersall   (Member)

I bought my copy in WH Smiths in Leicester in the summer of 1982. I knew it had to be an import, thanks to the review by Mat Irvine in "Starburst" magazine a couple of years before. I'd seen plenty of copies of the (UK) single album, but I'd been holding off buying it on the off chance of finding the US import (those were the days, when you could afford to play the long game? Now, if you don't snap up what you want right away, it's gone forever within a fortnight!). I think I only paid about £8.99 for it (pricey in those days, but not prohibitive).

Funnily enough, I was thinking of putting it up on eBay. It's a beautiful presentation, with the artwork and liner notes. Only the LOTR Complete Recording box sets come close to duplicating that standard of album presentation (but only if you download the Annotated Score pdfs), which we used to take for granted back in the days of vinyl. I struggle to read the fine print in CD booklets, these days.

Ah, nostalgia ain't what it used to be!

Simon

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2008 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I've still got my original lp of this from June, 1980. I need to burn it. It's in perfect condition, a little scruffy on the cover...

Who's "scruffy lookin'"?

I remember getting the 2-LP TESB for my birthday in August, 1980, and it got left in the car under the scorching Florida sun and to my dismay the record had warped like a speed bump right on the "Imperial March" band and nine-year-old me was upset at my favorite cut being ruined. Gramps was a trooper and ran back out to *ahem* K-Mart...and replaced it pronto. Good man, my grandfather. I still have it, but it really is shot to hell. I remember being awed by the gatefold sleeve and the copious liner notes. The LSO seemed so "sophisticated."

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2008 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

What were these? Now i'm interested...


He's just talking about "album presentation."

You know how Williams likes to edit his scores into "pleasant listening experiences" for the LP / CD, and will sometimes combine similar-subject music from different parts of the movie into one track, for consistency of style.

The real treat is when this practice leads to his composing "connecting material" or "album arrangements," which you can only hear on the resulting album, and not in the film.



I know but I'm curious about what those two tracks were--what cues were combined, and what it sounded like. smile


Sorry about the delay in replying to this very good question... smile

The "Heroics of Han & Luke" track on the original LP opened with the cue for Luke trapped in wampa cave, getting his lightsaber and escaping... the cue was edited down, then jumped to music of Han preparing to go out and find him and the final part of the track is the cue for Han, Leia, Chewie and C3PO racing to the Falcon on Hoth and escaping the Imperials.

As for "Rebels at Bay", it opens with the cue underscoring the snowspeeders searching for Han & Luke, then at 1:45 mark it segues to the "Luke's First Crash/Beneath the AT-AT" portion of the Hoth battle sequence. A really great track on that original album, these two cues simply made so much sense crossfading together for some reason...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2008 - 5:27 PM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

has anyone tried to re-create them using what we have?

neat.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2008 - 7:58 PM   
 By:   Trent B.   (Member)

StevenJ what is your email address? I would like to email you about this.

 
 Posted:   Oct 10, 2008 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

StevenJ what is your email address? I would like to email you about this.

Certainly.

klaatu77_16@hotmail.com

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2008 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   guest   (Member)

Converting my old double LP of TESB is one of my projects, like painting the house or pulling up the carpet and putting in hardwood floors, that I need to get to. Although unlike the others, the wife isn't pressuring me on that one. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2008 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

And I am sorry, Joe E, to have misidentified the U.S. album back cover artist.

But I don't want to bicker about it. My point is, it was a different world back then, as far as what information was available. May the Force Be With You.


Oh, I wasn't trying to be critical! I was just mentioning it, both so people would know the artist's name (he's the same guy who did the famous Jaws art) and in case there actually was a McQuarrie painting somewhere on the LP jacket that I was forgetting (I do have the LP - two copies, actually - but they're in a box somewhere in my parents' house, along with a lot of my other old stuff I haven't touched in some years. I'll have to go over and collect it all sometime...).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2008 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   phbart   (Member)

The Star Wars 30th Anniversary Edition has an extra CD with all the artwork from the LPs scanned in hi-definition.

The Empire Strikes Back 2-LP I bought it 2 years ago from ebay, $10 for a very good copy, very few scratches. I tryed to rip it, but my turntable didn't do a god job, and I've never played again ever since. So I just ripped the original CD tracks and combined them with the "unreleased" tracks from the LP, and made my own disc, wich clocks 74min.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2008 - 2:03 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Welcome aboard!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 13, 2008 - 3:27 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


Sure wish they'd release a DVD-audio disc of all the soundtracks like they did with the bonus discs for the Complete LOTRs soundtracks.


Sony.

 
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