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This topic has definitely got my attention.
(and I for one will be steering clear, no question about that!)
So then, to be absolutely clear, the point here is that releases such as this one: http://www.harkitrecords.com/kwai9.html are effectively unauthorised bootlegs? - correct?
John.
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Hey look everybody!
I've happened across a major Soundtrack Retailer who's all too happy to sell Harkit releases to us all.
Would you like to take a guess at who it is?
Heck no - there's no need..
http://tinyurl.com/dhje44
*sigh*
Why I am not surprised by this I ask myself..?
John.
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Correct.
Again, Harkit lurk, so if I'm wrong, please could they post and correct what I've said.
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This topic has definitely got my attention.
(and I for one will be steering clear, no question about that!)
So then, to be absolutely clear, the point here is that releases such as this one: http://www.harkitrecords.com/kwai9.html are effectively unauthorised bootlegs? - correct?
John.
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Buysoundtrax and a number of other retailers sell Harkit discs. Whether they don't know or or don't care about about the issues with Harkit, I'm not in a position to say.
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PLEASE read what I've said previously before replying
Thanks
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Well as I said previously, James Fitzpatrick was the album producer. If this is not the case and they have illegally used his name perhaps James could inform us, as he is a regular contributor to the boards.
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ABSOLUTELY!
I despise bootlegs and unauthorised CDs as much as anyone else who cares deeply about these kind of releases.
That said, if evidence is presented here or elsewhere which confirms that these releases ARE in fact legitimate, I will be the first to retract any comments which turn out to be inaccurate.
For the time being I am going purely on Lukas' initial post which started this thread - and at the present time I have no reason to doubt his advice on this important subject.
Thanks for the response(s).
John.
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Update..
I've now read the background / related existing threads on this and I'm even more confused (easily done, I know).
For the time being then, I think my next step is to actually BUY some Harkit releases (yes, you read that right).
On personal experience you can just about always get a vibe for a "dodgy" release purely by the "Look and Feel" of the product.
Let's call it instinct. Or something.
The issue of flagging up *all* simple vinyl >> CD transfers as being guaranteed bootlegs is certainly not true (I know that this isn't the point Lukas himself was trying to make by the way).
I know this from the pretty shoddy (yet completely legit!) CD edition I once owned for Angela Morley's / Mike Batt's "Watership Down".
I purchased that release from HMV on Oxford Street, London (which was and probably still is physically the largest CD/entertainment store in the UK..)
.. and yet the release was shoddy "and then some..!" - blurry, scanned-from-LP inlay and a definite LP > CD transfer. That's it.
I no longer own the disc in question but I believe that was credited to "Sony Special Products" (or similar). I had no reason to doubt it's legitimacy as I purchased it from the UK's largest music retailer (back then, probably still the case today).
All this has no direct connection to Harkit of course as it wasn't one of their's.
However, it DOES persuade me to be a little more cautious I guess when diving into such topics as this one.
Lukas has complete kudos on this board, and rightly so. However, there is always the chance that Harkit could be 100% legit.. isn't there?
Or is there?
Like I said. I'm confused!
Sleep time..
John.
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Okay Peter,
I assume that you are saying, yes this particular release may be legitimate but is tainted by the fact that others are not. So any label that has issued boots, or promos should be boycotted in their entirety ?.
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That is not what I'm saying. I'm saying do your research and take it on a release by release basis.
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Okay Peter,
I assume that you are saying, yes this particular release may be legitimate but is tainted by the fact that others are not. So any label that has issued boots, or promos should be boycotted in their entirety ?.
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Jesus Christ.
That is not what I'm saying.
Read my posts.
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Peter-
Firstly, thanks for contributing this thread.
I've just read (I think..) all of your previous posts on this matter.
However, just for the record where do you stand on the Harkit "debate"? - I mean, are you pro or anti the label? Obviously I'm assuming the latter - but just wondered. Thanks.
I'm finding it hard to judge accurately at the moment (the Harkit situation as a whole I mean) which again is why I am going to try and pick up at least one of their releases and see how well the physical product holds up.
OK, so now it's *definitely* sleep time over here in England.
My final point for today would be to actively *encourage* a representative from Harkit to join and contribute to this board! (clearly labelling their account as "Harkit" or similar)
Yes, it can be a volatile environment from time to time. However, if I was working there and felt my releases were rock solid 100% official releases I for one would be actively posting on this board defending my corner in the blink of an eye!
(Internet message boards are not everyone's preferred platform for discussion, so their apparent lack of active [posting] presence doesn't mean (IMHO) that they are therefore confirmed bootleggers).
However, with a hot-topic like this I'd be very interested to hear from the "Horse's Mouth" on this one.
Harkit - are you there..?
John.
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I have their Barbarella (a purchase made in ignorance of the label a few years ago.) It sounds horrible.
And that's sad, too. Those swine don't care. They made money off someone elses work and ownership and did not pay a dime.
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