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 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

To the best of my knowledge, it's Williams writing in that classical style, similar to the stuff he did in Eiger Sanction.
The sound is a bit wobbly (and the film is awful) but considering how hard it's been to track this film down, beggars can't be choosers if you want to view the film and hear JW's score in conjunction with it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Wow! Quite a find. We, at least, get to hear it! Mucho thanks!

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Is this before or after Jane Eyre?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Is this before or after Jane Eyre?

It's before.
1970.
(although some sites say 1969)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Although it was a Europe/USA co-production and filmed in Italy, would the music score tapes not be stored at Universal since they seem to be the main production company?
I also can't believe John Williams does not have a tape copy (AND Steven Spielberg, as the first thing I would have done when striking up my relationship with JW would have been to bag a copy of every complete score he had ever written!).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

This film is such a rarity that I just had to sit down and watch it. Although the running time of the film is almost always listed as 90 minutes, I’ve always assumed that was an estimated time, and indeed the version posted on YouTube runs 93+ minutes. Even at that, the film is missing a bedroom scene or two that featured a topless Bibi Andersson. These scenes, which gave the film its original “R” rating, were noted in the 4 February 1970 review of the film by Variety. The reviewer also speculated that the scenes would be cut for television, and indeed they have been for this YouTube version that was recorded from a Toronto television broadcast. A plus for film music buffs: composer Mario Nascimbene appears in a bit part as a music professor.

While I was watching the film, I decided to take down the film’s music cues, which would make a decent release if they could ever be found. Some SPOILERS may appear in the track descriptions below.

Score Cues
2:47 – Main Title
2:36 – Bruno Implores Karin
2:37 – Karin’s Reverie
1:03 – Karin In Sweden – Winter
1:15 – Karin In Sweden – Summer
2:23 – Karin Meets David
0:24 – Karin / Bruno Flashback I
0:12 – Karin / Bruno Flashback II
0:40 – Karin and David Go Boating
1:17 – Karin and David Talk
0:39 – In Washington DC
0:40 – Arriving In Rome
0:45 – Karin Goes to the Music Conservatory
1:02 – Karin Tells David of Bruno’s Visit
0:37 – Karin Dreams of Bruno
0:31 – Uno di qua, l'altra di la (vocal)
0:37 – Bruno Arrives at Monte Carlo
3:03 – Karin Comforts Her Daughter / Karin Talks With Bruno
2:57 – Bruno Walks Karin Home
0:20 – Morning
0:58 – Bruno Is Hurt
0:42 – Sunset Walk On Beach
1:23 – Bruno Recounts Car Accident
0:46 – Bruno Confronts Karin
6:15 – Karin and Bruno at Cortina
1:20 – Karin and David Reunited / End Title
Total Time - 37:49 (26 tracks)
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Source Music
1:03 – Karin Plays Piano I
0:39 – Accordion and Guitar Dance
0:50 – Accordion, Guitar, and Piano Trio
1:03 – Guitar Solo and Vocal
1:02 - Uno di qua, l'altra di la (vocal by Ornella Vanoni)
0:31 – Karin and David Marry
2:30 – Rome Party
0:25 – Piano Practice
0:34 – Karin Plays Piano II
Total Time – 8:37 (9 tracks)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 3:27 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

The song "Uno di qua, l'altra di la," composed by John Williams, has lyrics by Antonio Amurri.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   CDDA   (Member)

Good work listing the cues Bob DiMucci!
Do any label tried to license the soundtrack?
The original elements location are known?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 6:27 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Do any label tried to license the soundtrack?
The original elements location are known?


No and no.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2014 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   DS   (Member)

Thank you so much. Wow! Marvelous score. It just shot up to my top ten most wanted releases. I'm just curious why Williams has never re-recorded (at least!) that 6+ minute cue near the end. It's as great as anything else he's done.

Just fascinating how this suddenly appears after people have been trying for many, many years to hunt it down.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 2:59 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Thank you very much Bob DiMucci!
The 2 first minutes of music from the youtube suite we had, are missing from the film, so I guess this is from the opening scenes that are cut.

I saw the Mario Nascimbene credit in the beginning, but i wasn't sure that it would be the composer. Thanks for confirming!!

By the way, do you have any link to that Variety review of the film you mentioned?

Also, does anyone here know if the opening classical piece (which appears 2 more times in the film) is indeed a real classical piece, or if it's music possibly composed by Williams?
In its later appearances, it ends with a clean ending in the 2nd theme, so it doesn't seem to be an extract from a classical piano concerto (unless it's an adaptation of one).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 4:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

As I said elsewhere, I think I have heard that opening piece before -- in other words, that it is a classical piece, NOT a Williams composition. But untill I remember where I heard it, I guess anything goes.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 4:24 AM   
 By:   TownerFan   (Member)

IMHO it's Williams writing deliberately in neoclassical pastiche style. It could remind of some of his writing in The Paper Chase and The Eiger Sanction.

Saw the film yesterday and it was nice to finally fill this last gap in my Williams' knowledge. The film is a mawkish soap-opera affair, but it's less terrible than I expected. It's definitely worth to watch just for Williams' lovely score, which takes center stage in several sequences and appears to carry most of the film's drama (not unlike JW did many times in television episodic serials back in the 1960s, which Storia di Una Donna definitely resembles). Let's hope the score tapes will be located one day.

FYI, the score was recorded in Rome in 1968, with Stanley Wilson supervising the recording. Williams did not attend the sessions, as he was busy working on Goodbye Mr. Chips in London. The location of the recording is unknown (but it could very well have been done at International Recording studio). No tapes were ever found in any studio here in Italy. It's more likely that the session tapes were sent back to Hollywood, where the film was very likely mixed and finalized. Hence, I guess the best chance to find the tapes is still at Universal Studios archives.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Maurizio, what is the source of that information about 1968 etc.? (maybe in the liner notes of Mr. Chips?)

By the way, here's the highlight of the score, a 6 minute cue near the end of the film, for anyone who would like to listen to, without searching in the film. It features 2 music themes from the film.
I tried to reduce the noise as much as possible (also used Bob DiMucci's title):

http://picosong.com/eEB2/

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:05 AM   
 By:   TownerFan   (Member)

Maurizio, what is the source of that information about 1968 etc.? (maybe in the liner notes of Mr. Chips?)

Email conversations with Mike Matessino.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:06 AM   
 By:   KT   (Member)

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 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:11 AM   
 By:   KonstantinosZ   (Member)

Maurizio, what is the source of that information about 1968 etc.? (maybe in the liner notes of Mr. Chips?)

Email conversations with Mike Matessino.


Oh, I see, thanks.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   Sehnsuchtshafen   (Member)

...film is awful


The film is IMO far better than I've expected based on the above comment.

Partly melodramatic at times but mostly quite mature and interesting.

Bibi Andersson (*1935) is outstanding in her very well written part. She carries the whole picture from the beginning to the end.

I can see why Williams did the score for this film.

Spoilers are possible:

On the other hand, Robert Stack (1919-2003) is not right for the part he's written in - IMHO. Not only because he feels a bit too old for it and all those personal problems he's dealing with (ie. jealousy).

The Bruno Cardini character turn out to be an unstable piece of man, a real sicko. But he has some strong moments in the film that are not laughable at all.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:59 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

By the way, here's the highlight of the score, a 6 minute cue near the end of the film

http://picosong.com/eEB2/


thanks!

typical from Williams, melodies are instantly stuck in my head. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

tapes must be held - hostage - somewhere at Universal studios.

strong theme as usual.

Amazing to learn John Williams didn't take a break (or so) to come and record his score in Rome (!) while working in London on Goodbye Mr Chips.

Doesn't he know there is a world outside England and USA ?

just kidding of course...


 
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