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I got my replacement disc and I can certainly tell a difference, thanks so much for going the extra mile to do the replacement disc!!!! Wonderful stuff here.
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Finally got my replacement. Sounds great. Many thanks, Jose!
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As of June 14th 2010, Movie Music has NOT received their replacement discs to Santa Claus. I ordered one through them and had them send it to Leslie Bricusse who composed the lyrics to this film. Jose, could you check into this, as Leslie would love to have a better sounding version. I mean he did a great job on this movie so he really deserves to have a great copy.
Thanks
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gmontag451
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I wasn't planning on beating a dead horse, but since DMD bumped the horse and I've got this perfectly good bat that I found last night...
I'm a ridiculously obsessive completist, and I had imported both releases of SC:TM into my iTunes, only to find that now I really needed to make room for the albums I have on order. So before deleting the original release, I made a cursory comparison of the two in Sound Forge to make *absolutely sure* that I could live without the first release.
I noticed a strange oddity at the end of Sheena Easton's "It's Christmas All Over The World" that only the most obsessive of us could care about. On the original lossy release, at about 4:45, the verse from 4:16 is tracked again. On the second, improved release, at 4:45 it is the same as the original album (there is no tracking.) I would imagine that the tracking was likely done to create a better, cleaner fade out. As Jose said, they spent a lot of effort trying to clean up the audio on the first release. Due to unsatisfied customers, the second release was left unprocessed. I don't particularly find the tracking to be bad considering the probable intention, I just find it interesting to be able to see soundtrack editing in process, which would not have been possible without the comparison of the two.
I also confirmed for myself that the second release is much better and that I really don't need to keep both versions in my iTunes. (But for whatever reason it seems a shame to toss the original CD...)
Michael
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In the other Santa Claus thread, Jose said that the customers should contact the label directly and ask for the replacement disc. Please, look for that thread and check out the email he left there. As far as I remember, he also said that only the SAE customers would receive the replacements directly from SAE. All other dealers would not, therefore contact the label. It explains why MM did not receive anything. They are not SAE.
IMHO, the whole situation, how it's been handled, it is a mess. But I'm glad I got an intact replacement disc after some waiting.
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I noticed a strange oddity at the end of Sheena Easton's "It's Christmas All Over The World" that only the most obsessive of us could care about. On the original lossy release, at about 4:45, the verse from 4:16 is tracked again. On the second, improved release, at 4:45 it is the same as the original album (there is no tracking.)
I didn't notice that. What I did notice is that "Thank You, Santa" is a little longer and the fade out starts later at a more appropiate time (I always found that the fade out on the original release started too early).
Also, the channels on all Mancini tracks have been switched.
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Except SAE, that if replacements can be made, the rest we're doing directly. Please write to info@quartetrecords.com (or directly to me jose@quartetrecords.com) with your details and send you a copy.
As for the finish of this new mastering, at the beginning of this thread I have given all the explanations I could. That's all I can do.
Regards for all
Jose
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Don't hold your breath for the replacement CD, it still looks lossy on spectral analysis 
Lossy or not, I don't think they can sound the CD any better than the new mastering.
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As for the finish of this new mastering, at the beginning of this thread I have given all the explanations I could. That's all I can do.
What's the explanation for switching the channels?
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This was in the files that I provided. And we preferred not to touch or handle anything. Just mastering from here. Now verify that this condition was not suitable. Is treated with special care not to lose anything. Any lost proceeds from the original source that we had. And, for me, the first edition is better, but I had a lot of work and love it.
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This was in the files that I provided. And we preferred not to touch or handle anything. Just mastering from here. Now verify that this condition was not suitable. Is treated with special care not to lose anything. Any lost proceeds from the original source that we had. And, for me, the first edition is better, but I had a lot of work and love it.
I really don't understand. You did switch the channels between the first and second edition. How could that happen if you didn't touch anything?
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This was in the files that I provided. And we preferred not to touch or handle anything. Just mastering from here. Now verify that this condition was not suitable. Is treated with special care not to lose anything. Any lost proceeds from the original source that we had. And, for me, the first edition is better, but I had a lot of work and love it.
I really don't understand. You did switch the channels between the first and second edition. How could that happen if you didn't touch anything?
Touched in the first edition, of course. As became fades, reduced noise, leveled the bass and treble. Attempts were made to improve a source that was not too good.
Anyway, can you write me privately and told in detail the whole process of this CD, no problem. Thanks.
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Touched in the first edition, of course. As became fades, reduced noise, leveled the bass and treble. Attempts were made to improve a source that was not too good.
Sorry, I still don't get it. On your first edition the channels were identical to the old EMI-LP. So I would say, they were correct. The sound wasn't perfect on your first edition, but at least the channels were correct (high strings on the left etc. pp.). The second edition has switched channels. But, I rest my case. Perhaps you did the best you could.
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I think he means that the files he got from EMI had the channels switched, but he corrected it for the first release and also made other adjudgements. For the second release he didn't and adjusted as little as possible.
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I think he means that the files he got from EMI had the channels switched, but he corrected it for the first release and also made other adjudgements. For the second release he didn't and adjusted as little as possible.
Exactly
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