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 Posted:   Apr 3, 2011 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   vwing   (Member)

Saw the film yesterday. A really, really, really good film (not sure I'd go great, but it's on the bubble). And finally, a film that realizes good sci-fi/action movies can be under 2 hours! The plot made some nice uses of red herrings, where you're not really sure what the story's about until the very end. The movie also did a good job of tricking me out of what I thought the original ending would be, only to be that ending. Well-directed, well-acted, well-written. Just solid all the way through.

The score is also really good. I definitely heard the JNH influence in the Signs-inspired main title, and the rest of the music sounded like a combo of JNH in 90s action mode and John Powell, with a bit of Desplat's Hostage thrown in (that's a good thing). The best part of the score is that it manages to be musical without really being overly thematic, though there are some portions of big melodic material. In that sense, it also reminded me of Don Davis' Matrix score.

Certainly, a heck of a debut for Bacon, and I can't wait to hear what's next.

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2011 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   random guy   (Member)

The PDF Booklet list the orchestrator and performers but not the name of the orchestra. I can upload it for you if you like... I don't think that is illegal is it?

I imagine they meant he used some of their samples. but they made it seem like the whole score was done using their product. feel cheated. hope to hear the score by the end of this week. this year seems to be a good year as well

 
 Posted:   Apr 3, 2011 - 2:18 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Oh OK, cool.

JohnyMenjivar1010@Gmail.com though if you did want to see who the performers on SOURCE CODE are.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 1:42 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

I enjoyed this the way I enjoyed ADJUSTMENT BUREAU.
It's a neat, zippy little sci-fi-er with decent characters and a good pace.
It's a real brain acher by the end, trying to assemble (and re-assemble) all the threads that the plot throws at ya. Depending on your view, it's either cleverly plotted or an implausible house of cards (that collapse upon scrutiny).
To me, it's DEJA-VU crossed with GROUNDHOG DAY, although I enjoyed it more than both of those films (which I did like).
I thought the music was pretty good, but found it quite disconcerting that it wasn't credited to James Newton Howard (80%) and John Powell (20%).
No disrespect to Bacon, who is at least trying to deliver a REAL ORCHESTRAL score in these musically austere times, but I was astonished how much it 'aped' those composers' styles.
Still, much better he apes them than that other crew wink
And like Danny Elfman once said, to get your foot in and snag those early jobs, you gotta give them exactly what they ask for.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

I enjoyed this the way I enjoyed ADJUSTMENT BUREAU.
It's a neat, zippy little sci-fi-er with decent characters and a good pace.
It's a real brain acher by the end, trying to assemble (and re-assemble) all the threads that the plot throws at ya. Depending on your view, it's either cleverly plotted or an implausible house of cards (that collapse upon scrutiny).
To me, it's DEJA-VU crossed with GROUNDHOG DAY, although I enjoyed it more than both of those films (which I did like).
I thought the music was pretty good, but found it quite disconcerting that it wasn't credited to James Newton Howard (80%) and John Powell (20%).
No disrespect to Bacon, who is at least trying to deliver a REAL ORCHESTRAL score in these musically austere times, but I was astonished how much it 'aped' those composers' styles.
Still, much better he apes them than that other crew wink
And like Danny Elfman once said, to get your foot in and snag those early jobs, you gotta give them exactly what they ask for.


I'm looking forward to seeing this myself, Kev, I was a big fan of Moon. Earlier in the thread ctblass says that Chris Bacon is a protege of James Newton Howard, so that may explain that!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 2:13 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Yeah Mark, I'd read that he assisted JNH and got some gigs via him, I suppose.
I noticed in ASDA tonight he'd scored Taylor Hackford's recent film (some straight to DVD brothel thing). Hackford used JNH a lot, so I'd guess that gig came from a recommendation.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

Yeah Mark, I'd read that he assisted JNH and got some gigs via him, I suppose.
I noticed in ASDA tonight he'd scored Taylor Hackford's recent film (some straight to DVD brothel thing). Hackford used JNH a lot, so I'd guess that gig came from a recommendation.


Oh right, that thing with Helen (Mrs. Hackford) Mirren and Joe Pesci? Can't remember the name... yeah, that makes sense!

P.s. I was off work today, but in on a late tomorrow. Hope your first day on the phones wasn't too painful!!

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Yeah Mark, I'd read that he assisted JNH and got some gigs via him, I suppose.
I noticed in ASDA tonight he'd scored Taylor Hackford's recent film (some straight to DVD brothel thing). Hackford used JNH a lot, so I'd guess that gig came from a recommendation.


Oh right, that thing with Helen (Mrs. Hackford) Mirren and Joe Pesci? Can't remember the name... yeah, that makes sense!

P.s. I was off work today, but in on a late tomorrow. Hope your first day on the phones wasn't too painful!!


LOVE RANCH.

Bad movie. Listed as CHRIS P. BACON though.

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

Yeah Mark, I'd read that he assisted JNH and got some gigs via him, I suppose.
I noticed in ASDA tonight he'd scored Taylor Hackford's recent film (some straight to DVD brothel thing). Hackford used JNH a lot, so I'd guess that gig came from a recommendation.


Oh right, that thing with Helen (Mrs. Hackford) Mirren and Joe Pesci? Can't remember the name... yeah, that makes sense!

P.s. I was off work today, but in on a late tomorrow. Hope your first day on the phones wasn't too painful!!


LOVE RANCH.

Bad movie. Listed as CHRIS P. BACON though.


Named after the crisp flavour, no doubt...

http://www.americansweets.co.uk/wheat-crunchies-crispy-bacon-flavour-wheat-snacks-case-of-48-bags-6114-p.asp

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Hell of a movie, hell of a score (WOODWINDS...?! eek )

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 7:54 PM   
 By:   Gunner Star   (Member)

Thought it was a fine debut score in the old school tradition. Hope the success of the film leads to more assigments for Chris Bacon so he can develop his own voice and be the next JNH or Silvestri. God knows with so many great composers now gone, retired, semi-retired, or simply not very active, we need some new young talent.

Really enjoyed the film too. Nice to see a film so tight. It was beautifully paced, and exhilarating as opposed exhausting. Sort of played like a great Outer Limits episode. I mean that in a good way.

Duncan Jones is the new guy!

 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 8:20 PM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

Did you hear that main title? It's MUSIC! Music has finally returned to film scores! wink

I say it in jest but thank you Chris Bacon for giving me a goosebump or two, that hasn't happened to me when listening to a new score in... I don't know how long!


It's hard to say too much from listening to samples, and I haven't seen the film. How the music works in the film is the main thing, of course, so we'll see about that. My impression from listening to the clips, however, was just about the opposite of yours -- it sounds to me like the same old no-theme, no-melody soundscape stuff we've come to expect from this type of film, sustained chords with a little percussion thrown in for interest, just atmospheric, without any real musical identity. It doesn't sound like a purely orchestral score to me, either.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 7, 2011 - 11:19 PM   
 By:   JADSTERSDAD   (Member)

Absolutely brilliant film! And a really impressive score. Kind of reminded me of Jerry in parts. Anyone else hear that?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2011 - 12:21 PM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Yeah Jad, I got a whiff of Goldsmith too. Just that kinda cool ostinato thing he was going for (of course lots of older, great JNH used to channel Jerry too).

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2011 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Have the score and I thought it was decent. Some of the quiet moments are quite nice.

In the film however, the music is WILDLY out of place. I know they were going for a Bernard Herman type of deal but it draws WAY too much attention to itself almost to the point where it feels like a SUPERHERO film score with very specific cues that tell you exactly what you are watching.

Didn't crate that sense of atmosphere that Clint Mansell's MOON did.

It reminded me of MINORITY REPORT at times as well [some similarities in score but mostly with how at the forefront the score was but if it's Williams and Spielberg, you kind of know that was going to happen].

The movie is a trip as well although I could have done without last 2 minutes.

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2011 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I'll take an "overbearing" score over the droning nothingness that passes for film music these days. I was literally grinning over the opening credits just due to the music, and I can't remember the last time that happened.

 
 Posted:   Apr 8, 2011 - 8:23 PM   
 By:   Joe Sikoryak   (Member)



The score is also really good. I definitely heard the JNH influence in the Signs-inspired main title, and the rest of the music sounded like a combo of JNH in 90s action mode and John Powell, with a bit of Desplat's Hostage thrown in (that's a good thing).
Certainly, a heck of a debut for Bacon, and I can't wait to hear what's next.


I liked the film and score too---but I always thought the temp track for Paycheck must have leaned heavily on Signs, and I'll bet the temp track for Source Code was probably Paycheck (they also swiped from the latter's poster art). So glad to hear it all comes back to J N Howard!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 9, 2011 - 4:07 AM   
 By:   Ant   (Member)

It reminds me of Paycheck a lot, but that's only a good thing! Somebody mentioned the music seemed out of place in the movie, but to me it felt incredibly fresh to hear something like this in a sci-fi thriller instead of the usual drone.

Very impressed with the movie and score. Highly recommend both.

Edit:

I'll take an "overbearing" score over the droning nothingness that passes for film music these days. I was literally grinning over the opening credits just due to the music, and I can't remember the last time that happened.

Completely agree. I think I was probably doing the same. I definitely felt a weird (or long lost) feeling when the music came on.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2011 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

Great score and great film! What a pleasure to be sucked into a nice, tight, intelligent thriller with people you care about. And Bacon's score made me sit up and pay attention. I hear more of a SIGNS influence, rather than PAYCHECK
. . . but that's not a bad thing.

I'm looking forward to Chris Bacon's future works. Haven't had a newby make an impression on me like this since Christophe Beck's WE ARE MARSHALL.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2011 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

Damn good tight movie and the score was decent for a change!

 
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